Nicholas,

I wonder if you are a middle class, middle aged white guy who has been lucky enough to have never experienced persecution, or had good grounds to fear it?  The implicit sentiment that "if you've got nothing to hide, you've got nothing to worry about" is too often the position of the privileged.  Can you not imagine that expressing one's political or religious views (for example) brings personal risks to many of the dispossessed or disadvantaged in the world.  Why should people have to go hide offline to enjoy privacy of their communications? 

Steve.

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On 2/08/2011 8:09 AM, Nicholas Crown wrote:
> but that is a totally different problem then the one I am raising
> which is whether people with medical conditions they want to talk
> about with others and get support (share +1s) or a buddhist in Kansas
> (can share freely with other buddhists or seekers without their hyper
> conservative christian neighbors finding out) or having a feminist
> persona that is not linked to your work identity in the tech industry
> (and if it was you would find work had to come by in the valley) is
> free to use google+ not linked to a "real name".
>
>
> Why can't people just be who they are and stand in their own shoes
> for what they believe in? Trying to be a buddhist behind closed doors
> in Kansas does no one any good. If you believe in feminist tenants,
> than stand up for those and speak your voice. I understand that
> persecution could come in any one of these cases, but that is the
> beauty of taking a stand on the truth. If your ideal is not worth
> sharing with your own ID, then it's not for you. About the only one
> that I struggle with is the case where you have some medical
> condition you would like to discuss in a private setting. Can that
> case not be solved with a private/closed group? If it's too
> sensitive for that, then take it offline.
>
> Nick
>
> On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 4:49 PM, Tony Rutkowski
> <trutkowski@netmagic.com <mailto:trutkowski@netmagic.com>> wrote:
>
> "Rights to anonymity." Surely you are joking.
>
> In law, there is no such network based right. In technology, there is
> no such capability.
>
> Like Scott McNealy said rather publicly in 1995 - Privacy: get over
> it.
>
> --tony
>
>
>
> On 8/1/2011 5:38 PM, Stephen Wilson wrote:
>
> (3) If you use crime prevention as the rationale for taking away
> users' rights to anonymity, then
>
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