I have been following this thread from the other side of the pond. An interesting and ongoing debate but I maintain that ‘I’ am the ONLY entity who owns my identity and it changes and morphs as I grow and continually add experiences. Now, I can keep this completely private as long as my ambition is to sit on a mountain top and hummm! If I want to engage with a community or society of any kind then I need to share or exchange it. All I want is to be able to chose what bits, at what time, for what reason and with whom I share it – the same things that I do with my cash. And, like my money, I want a record of these events. What I don’t want is any organisation, public or private, passing it on without my knowledge or consent. If government-centric then it will be designed and used for their benefit. If individual –centric the it can be ‘under my control, with my consent, for my benefit’. See http://blog.grahamsadd.com/ Regards Graham Graham Sadd Chairman & CEO Trusted Relationship Management T: +44 (0) 1628 510777 M: +44 (0) 7958 056171 E: graham.sadd@paoga.com <mailto:graham.sadd@paoga.com> W: www.paoga.com B: blog.grahamsadd.com <http://blog.grahamsadd.com/> From: community-request@lists.idcommons.net [mailto:community-request@lists.idcommons.net] On Behalf Of Frank Wray Sent: 12 January 2011 14:18 To: trutkowski@netmagic.com; Drummond Reed Cc: Mary Ruddy; Walsh, Alan J; Rob Marano; community@lists.idcommons.net; community@kantarainitiative.org Subject: Re: [community] an interesting question I am not sure if I agree completely... Americans have a history of not trusting government, and as a matter of fact, America was born on the notion of the lack of trust in government. The media uses that to sell their product. But, Identity should not be treated as a government issue, nation issue, but a user-centric issue in an Internet connected world (global). Each user is the owner of their identity and each user should have the ability to provide the information that they want to provide when they engage in an Internet transaction (sharing information included) and maintain the anonymity when desired. NSTIC was misrepresented by the mainstream media, but the root of the issue is the name. We cannot have a Nation-centric identity eco-system in a global Internet. One of the beauties of the Internet is the lack of borders. A global initiative where governments, the private sector and user communities as interested parties build the trust framework and use some or one of the current trust framework initiatives out there. And I am not suggesting that NSTIC is necessarily nation-centric, but the name leads to that believe. I also believe that the misrepresentation of the media is actually a good thing. This will not necessarily "kill" the initiative it will improve it and maybe even "globalize it" as I have suggested. So, let's keep the conversation going... :) ----- Original Message ----- From: Tony Rutkowski Sent: 01/12/11 08:43 AM To: Drummond Reed Subject: [community] an interesting question The treatment of personal IdM in the U.S. is shaped in substantial measure by a messaging by the media and lobbying community that conveys a hostility to government - some of it extreme - where the government is always painted in negative terms. It is a perspective almost unknown elsewhere in the world. That perspective is reflected in some of the NSTIC dialogue last week. Has the calculus changed by recent events? --amr ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: community@lists.idcommons.net To be removed from the list, send any message to: community-unsubscribe@lists.idcommons.net For all list information and functions, see: http://lists.idcommons.net/lists/info/community Notice/Disclaimer Internet communications are not secure and the company (PAOGA Limited) does not accept legal liability for the integrity of the contents of this message. This email is confidential and the contents may not be disclosed or used by anyone other than the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient and receive this email, please immediately contact the sender at the above location. Whilst PAOGA Limited attempts to sweep email and attachments for viri and other malware. It does not guarantee that either virus or malware-free and PAOGA Limited accepts no liability for any damage sustained as a result of viral or other similar infections. Anyone who communicates with us by email is taken to accept these risks. PAOGA Limited. Registered Office in UK No: 4572417, Registered Office: Moor Place, Moorlands Drive, Pinkneys Green, Maidenhead, Berkshire. SL6 6QS