yup, that's the group. Here's the list: http://groups.google.com/group/federated-social-web On Oct 13, 2010, at 1:34 PM, RL 'Bob' Morgan wrote:

...

BTW, the W3C has already reached out to the FSW (federated social web) effort and offered support.

The FSW effort is the material at

http://federatedsocialweb.net/wiki/Federated_Social_Web_Summit_2010

etc? Or is there more to it?

- RL "Bob"

Nat - You bring up a good point... while I can see why the group, being focused on the "social web", might not see SAML as being a major player, perhaps it'd make sense to suggestion a paragraph for inclusion somewhere. Perhaps you or (or someone else on the list) could suggest some reasponable input. It'd need to come in by this Friday, though, as I believe they expect to ratify this report on their next call. - Trent Nat Sakimura wrote:

It is kind of strange that they do not touch on SAML at all also.

Perhaps should we ping them on it?

=nat

(2010/10/14 0:50), J. Trent Adams wrote:

...

All -

If you haven't already seen it, the W3C Social Web Incubator Group recently published it's final report:

http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/socialweb/wiki/FinalReport

Of specific interest to this group is their summary of work taking place around Identity:

http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/socialweb/wiki/FinalReport#Identity

I'm not sure if it's an oversight or was a conscious decision, but it's interesting that there only mention of "trust frameworks" is in a passing reference.

NOTE: I'm not entirely sure of the status of this report... the header indicates it's complete, but there appear to be some remaining questions embedded in the text.

- Trent

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Hi Nat, Trent, Just an observation. In my experience meeting folks from the non-SAML (non-Oasis) world, they typically do not associate SAML with Identity. Not sure why, perhaps they see SAML as just a syntax (like ASN.1). Also few realize that there is a slew of building blocks in saml-core and in the saml-profiles. cheers, /thomas/

-----Original Message----- From: community-bounces@kantarainitiative.org [mailto:community- bounces@kantarainitiative.org] On Behalf Of Nat Sent: Friday, October 15, 2010 1:37 PM To: J. Trent Adams Cc: community@kantarainitiative.org Subject: Re: [Kantara - Community] W3C Social Web Incubator Group Final Report

I have sent my personal comment to the editor.

=nat @ Tokyo via iPhone

On 2010/10/15, at 0:21, "J. Trent Adams" wrote:

...

Nat -

You bring up a good point... while I can see why the group, being focused on the "social web", might not see SAML as being a major player, perhaps it'd make sense to suggestion a paragraph for

inclusion somewhere.

...

Perhaps you or (or someone else on the list) could suggest some reasponable input. It'd need to come in by this Friday, though,

as I

...

believe they expect to ratify this report on their next call.

- Trent

Nat Sakimura wrote:

...

It is kind of strange that they do not touch on SAML at all also.

Perhaps should we ping them on it?

=nat

(2010/10/14 0:50), J. Trent Adams wrote:

...

All -

If you haven't already seen it, the W3C Social Web Incubator Group recently published it's final report:

http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/socialweb/wiki/FinalReport

Of specific interest to this group is their summary of work taking place around Identity:

http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/socialweb/wiki/FinalReport#Identity

...

I'm not sure if it's an oversight or was a conscious decision,

but

...

it's interesting that there only mention of "trust frameworks" is in a passing reference.

NOTE: I'm not entirely sure of the status of this report... the header indicates it's complete, but there appear to be some remaining questions embedded in the text.

- Trent

-- J. Trent Adams =jtrentadams

Profile: http://www.mediaslate.org/jtrentadams/ LinkedIN: http://www.linkedin.com/in/jtrentadams Twitter: http://twitter.com/jtrentadams

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Hi all, In W3C, is (isn't) an "incubator" group a precursor to a working group? If so, are they planning a new WG? Thanks. /thomas/ ____________________________

-----Original Message----- From: community-bounces@kantarainitiative.org [mailto:community- bounces@kantarainitiative.org] On Behalf Of Nat Sakimura Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 9:37 PM To: community@kantarainitiative.org Subject: Re: [Kantara - Community] W3C Social Web Incubator Group Final Report

It is kind of strange that they do not touch on SAML at all also.

Perhaps should we ping them on it?

=nat

...

All -

If you haven't already seen it, the W3C Social Web Incubator Group recently published it's final report:

http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/socialweb/wiki/FinalReport

Of specific interest to this group is their summary of work taking place around Identity:

http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/socialweb/wiki/FinalReport#Identity

I'm not sure if it's an oversight or was a conscious decision, but it's interesting that there only mention of "trust frameworks" is in a passing reference.

NOTE: I'm not entirely sure of the status of this report... the

(2010/10/14 0:50), J. Trent Adams wrote: header

...

indicates it's complete, but there appear to be some remaining questions embedded in the text.

- Trent

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