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FYI, the BSC Discussion Group is being archived
by Eve Maler 09 Mar '19

09 Mar '19

A vote was recently undertaken in the Kantara Leadership Council to instruct the Kantara Initiative staff to archive the Blockchain and Smart Contracts Discussion Group's mailing list and related assets. That vote has passed, so they are going to begin that task. If you have any questions, please reach out to me or Bella (cc'd). [image: ForgeRock] <https://www.forgerock.com/> *Eve Maler* VP Innovation & Emerging Technology | ForgeRock *t* (425) 345-6756 | *e* eve.maler(a)forgerock.com *twitter* xmlgrrl | *web* www.forgerock.com

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Important topic for discussion: forming a charter for a blockchain-related WG
by Eve Maler 16 Jun '17

16 Jun '17

Hi everyone! Have you enjoyed your break? :-) Thomas and I have rounded off the edits to our Report <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1HOVJ3lKqOIjwCqPt5jFxfLr7wEoJ0ZVNbMGsdsW…> and remanded ownership of the document to Kantara. You'll recall that we included several recommendations. One of them in particular is highly relevant for us to shape further here on this list: *"Recommendation: Launch a Blockchain and Smart Contracts WG <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1HOVJ3lKqOIjwCqPt5jFxfLr7wEoJ0ZVNbMGsdsW…>"* We went a good way towards recommending the shape of deliverables and liaison relationships there. But what's needed for anyone to actually form a WG in Kantara is described in its Operating Procedures <http://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/download/attachments/84279306/Kanta…>. What's required is at least one proposer, and a proposed charter using this template <https://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/GI/Template+-+Work+Group+C…> (with the following new additions: a) title of the publication the WG will produce, b) expected timeframe for delivery, c) any paid resources anticipated such as Editor or Project Manager, and d) if yes, then ideally a pre-arranged source of directed funds to avoid slowdown). The finished charter proposal would then go to the Kantara Leadership Council for approval. I would now like to invite everyone to participate in discussing the chartering of a WG, keeping in mind *the original parameters of the recommendations* (though these can vary if that's the way the discussion goes) and the *chartering requirements*. We don't intend to schedule calls for this discussion at this point, though this can be arranged if it seems necessary. Note: Proposers and those listing themselves in proposed leadership roles in the charter are taking an important new step towards making the listed deliverables happen, with real resources and time! This is the most important *practical* consideration. (Thomas and I are unable to take on these roles in a new WG, though we are here to guide and comment on the chartering process.) *Eve Maler*ForgeRock Office of the CTO | VP Innovation & Emerging Technology Cell +1 425.345.6756 | Skype: xmlgrrl | Twitter: @xmlgrrl

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Fwd: SAVE THE DATE: WG11 Midyear Meeting in San Diego, CA, Sept. 18-19, 2017
by John Wunderlich 08 May '17

08 May '17

FYI: Following up on the last call, see the notice below. I'm on the mailing list but not a member of Sedona. John Wunderlich, BA, MBA IAPP Fellow of Information Privacy CISA, CIPM, CIPP/C, PbD Ambassador @PrivacyCDN <https://twitter.com/PrivacyCDN> & Privacist ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: The Sedona Conference <info(a)sedonaconference.org> Date: 4 May 2017 at 14:01 Subject: SAVE THE DATE: WG11 Midyear Meeting in San Diego, CA, Sept. 18-19, 2017 To: John Wunderlich <john(a)wunderlich.ca> [image: Logo] [image: Facebook] <https://thesedonaconference.org/sites/sedona.civicactions.net/modules/civic…> [image: Twitter] <https://thesedonaconference.org/sites/sedona.civicactions.net/modules/civic…> [image: LinkedIn] <https://thesedonaconference.org/sites/sedona.civicactions.net/modules/civic…> SAVE THE DATE September 18-19, 2017 The Sedona Conference Working Group on Data Security and Privacy Liability (WG11) 2017 Midyear Meeting *The 2017 Midyear Meeting of Working Group 11 <https://thesedonaconference.org/sites/sedona.civicactions.net/modules/civic…> will be held at the Rancho Bernardo Inn in San Diego, California, on Monday-Tuesday, September 18-19, 2017.* A welcome reception will be held on the evening of Sunday, September 17, 2017, from 6-8 pm. Please mark your calendars now. Please look for an email announcement when we open registration. *In order to attend the meeting, you will need to be a member of WG11 <https://thesedonaconference.org/sites/sedona.civicactions.net/modules/civic…>. Please become a member by signing up for a Working Group Series (WGS) membership <https://thesedonaconference.org/sites/sedona.civicactions.net/modules/civic…>*. Once a WGS member, one is eligible to become a member and take part in the activities of all Working Groups, including WG11. If you have any questions about how to sign up for a membership or encounter any difficulties while doing so, please contact Irina Goldberg at IGG(a)sedonaconference.org. If you have any questions about the activities of WG11 or the 2017 midyear meeting, please contact Michael Pomarico at MSP(a)sedonaconference.org. We hope to see you in San Diego in September! ------------------------------ 301 East Bethany Home Road, Suite C-297, Phoenix, AZ 85012 Phone 602-258-4910 <(602)%20258-4910> Email info(a)sedonaconference.org ------------------------------ Copyright 2017 The Sedona Conference You are currently signed up to receive newsletters. To unsubscribe click here <https://thesedonaconference.org/index.php?q=civicrm/mailing/optout&reset=1&…> If you would like to resubscribe to receive emails from The Sedona Conference click resubscribe <e-4252-3767713-259afa6b9c381e31@thesedonaconference.org?subject=I%20would%20like%20to%20resubscribe%20to%20TSC%20emails&I%20would%20like%20to%20resubscribe%20to%20TSC%20emails> -- This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. If you are not the intended recipient you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited.

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Notes from Thursday, May 5 (last) BSC telecon
by Eve Maler 05 May '17

05 May '17

Thanks and congratulations to all! http://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/BSC/2017-05+%28May+2017%29+… Agenda: - Report <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1HOVJ3lKqOIjwCqPt5jFxfLr7wEoJ0ZVNbMGsdsW…> work Attending: Eve, JohnW, Matisse, Marco, Doug B, Susan (regrets: Thomas) Should we keep the "ethical diamond" observation in whole or part? We kept it. We have consensus on our Recommendations. The report is not *exactly* complete, but it's ready to present. We can keep copy-editing while it's presented to the LC and Board at this point. Goals at this point: Without meeting again, copy-edit and resolve all final comments. Thomas and Eve, plus name-checked DG participants, to complete these tasks. All: Beware of the GDocs phishing scam! (Our Report link above is a GDoc.) *Eve Maler*ForgeRock Office of the CTO | VP Innovation & Emerging Technology Cell +1 425.345.6756 | Skype: xmlgrrl | Twitter: @xmlgrrl

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Last meeting is today!
by Eve Maler 04 May '17

04 May '17

We have been making lots of edits and additions to the report; these should be complete-ish by call time, barring notes for specific people. PLEASE be sure to review, especially if you have gotten a Google Docs email query. Thomas sends very sincere regrets for today's call; he has been pulled into a meeting in a very "disempowered" way... As for me, I may be pulled away a bit before the end of our hour. So please be prompt and ready. Thanks! Eve (from my iPad)

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Notes from BSC telecon Thursday, April 27
by Eve Maler 29 Apr '17

29 Apr '17

http://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/BSC/2017-04+%28April+2017%2… Agenda: - Report <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1HOVJ3lKqOIjwCqPt5jFxfLr7wEoJ0ZVNbMGsdsW…> work Attending: Eve, Matisse, Marco, Thomas, Susan, Jeff, Maryann, Kathleen, JohnW The candidate recommendations are, so far, not captured in the report – . Let's confirm today which ones we "believe in", and add any others, and then put them in the report. Kathleen notes that ONC is beginning work on a trust framework/contract. Hopefully Our WG recommendation: How about: Spin up a WG to develop on blockchains and smart contract good practice on use and handling of data related to individuals so as to facilitate individual autonomy [and enable equitable and efficient participation in transaction ecosystems?]. John talks about knowledge, choice, and control as the three axes of autonomy. Ecosystems typically constrain autonomy. Add to potential liaison relationships: ONC and HL7. The recommendation we want to make has a pretty sharp audience, set of outputs, set of activities, and set of directions for next steps. We've talked from time to time about the UMA Legal subgroup possibly spinning up as its own group. Maybe there's something to think about here – combining forces, or two separate WGs? Maybe a "Legal WG" with Kantara-wide scope would make sense; John repeats himself in Legal, CIS, a lot. It would need to be able to produce technical specs as well (that is, have the right IPR policy for that). Kickstarting the good practice work: We want to recommend to all the "legal capacity to contract" (parties/counterparties) people that they should be using identity standards and, as much as possible, standard claim catalogs so that they can get the benefit of standard flows and standard claim/attribute semantics. (Point to "Analysis of Integrating Legal Contracts and Smart Contracts" section.) Eve made up an editing task list for herself and Thomas. Keep an eye on report changes. *AI:* All: Please review the Report and comment in it or on the list! Keep in mind we're at the very end. *AI:* Eve: Ask for one more meeting next Thursday. It's the LAST ONE. *Eve Maler*ForgeRock Office of the CTO | VP Innovation & Emerging Technology Cell +1 425.345.6756 | Skype: xmlgrrl | Twitter: @xmlgrrl

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Legal/technical smart contract WG -- RE: Notes from BSC telecon Thursday, April 27
by Thomas Hardjono 28 Apr '17

28 Apr '17

>>> Eve: >>> We've talked from time to time about the UMA Legal subgroup possibly >>> spinning up as its own group. Maybe there's something to think about >>> here – combining forces, or two separate WGs? Maybe a "Legal WG" with >>> Kantara-wide scope would make sense; John repeats himself in Legal, CIS, a lot. >>> It would need to be able to produce technical specs as well (that is, have >>> the right IPR policy for that). One thing that I'd like to see is a specification (actual spec, not best practices or guidelines) on a "smart-contract", something that has a hope of being accepted in the legal mindset/industry: (a) Technical: What is a technical definition of a smart contract: define the fields (syntax), allowable values and allowable interpretations (e.g. semantics). Digital signatures. (b) Legal: What information needs to be captured in a smart-contract, for example, to make it admissible in court. Some progress is being made (see bill HB2417 in Arizona and the one in Vermont by Oliver Goodfellow), but I believe more work needs to be done. For example, is the legal acceptance of HB2417 based on the digital signatures only or also on additional features. So, a new Kantara WG (a) with the right mix of legal/technical and (b) very well defined deliverables, would be groundbreaking. /thomas/ ________________________________________ From: dg-bsc-bounces(a)kantarainitiative.org [dg-bsc-bounces(a)kantarainitiative.org] on behalf of Colin Wallis [colin(a)kantarainitiative.org] Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2017 11:11 PM To: Eve Maler Cc: dg-bsc(a)kantarainitiative.org Subject: Re: [DG-BSC] Notes from BSC telecon Thursday, April 27 Folks Great work there. Thanks! The Report is shaping up well, but as Eve implies, it needs your best strategic thought bubbles being applied to those recommendations. If this helps at all, I am aware that the Leadership Council is seriously considering re-starting Kantara's P3 WG (Privacy and Public Policy). Who was around and remembers those ground-breaking, thought provoking calls on P3?:-). I bring this to your attention because if you do recommend a Legal WG, combining the efforts from UMA Legal and BSC, then there will be great cross-walk potential with P3. Thanks again, Colin Executive Director Cell: +44 (0)7490 266 778 Kantara Initiative Inc.<https://kantarainitiative.org/> [https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0B7y8c3lrgRtUUjRFMHFMQm1BR3M&export=download] On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 8:52 PM, Eve Maler <eve.maler(a)forgerock.com<mailto:eve.maler@forgerock.com>> wrote: http://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/BSC/2017-04+%28April+2017%2… Agenda: * Report<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1HOVJ3lKqOIjwCqPt5jFxfLr7wEoJ0ZVNbMGsdsW…> work Attending: Eve, Matisse, Marco, Thomas, Susan, Jeff, Maryann, Kathleen, JohnW The candidate recommendations are, so far, not captured in the report – . Let's confirm today which ones we "believe in", and add any others, and then put them in the report. Kathleen notes that ONC is beginning work on a trust framework/contract. Hopefully Our WG recommendation: How about: Spin up a WG to develop on blockchains and smart contract good practice on use and handling of data related to individuals so as to facilitate individual autonomy [and enable equitable and efficient participation in transaction ecosystems?]. John talks about knowledge, choice, and control as the three axes of autonomy. Ecosystems typically constrain autonomy. Add to potential liaison relationships: ONC and HL7. The recommendation we want to make has a pretty sharp audience, set of outputs, set of activities, and set of directions for next steps. We've talked from time to time about the UMA Legal subgroup possibly spinning up as its own group. Maybe there's something to think about here – combining forces, or two separate WGs? Maybe a "Legal WG" with Kantara-wide scope would make sense; John repeats himself in Legal, CIS, a lot. It would need to be able to produce technical specs as well (that is, have the right IPR policy for that). Kickstarting the good practice work: We want to recommend to all the "legal capacity to contract" (parties/counterparties) people that they should be using identity standards and, as much as possible, standard claim catalogs so that they can get the benefit of standard flows and standard claim/attribute semantics. (Point to "Analysis of Integrating Legal Contracts and Smart Contracts" section.) Eve made up an editing task list for herself and Thomas. Keep an eye on report changes. AI: All: Please review the Report and comment in it or on the list! Keep in mind we're at the very end. AI: Eve: Ask for one more meeting next Thursday. It's the LAST ONE. Eve Maler ForgeRock Office of the CTO | VP Innovation & Emerging Technology Cell +1 425.345.6756<tel:(425)%20345-6756> | Skype: xmlgrrl | Twitter: @xmlgrrl _______________________________________________ DG-BSC mailing list DG-BSC(a)kantarainitiative.org<mailto:DG-BSC@kantarainitiative.org> http://kantarainitiative.org/mailman/listinfo/dg-bsc

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Collecting candidate recommendations -- RE: Notes from BSC telecon Thursday, April 13
by Thomas Hardjono 20 Apr '17

20 Apr '17

Folks, For our BSC telecon today, we are collecting candidate recommendations for future actions (see minutes from last week). So, please think about possible recommendations and we can discuss it today at the NSC call. Best. Thomas & Eve ________________________________________ From: dg-bsc-bounces(a)kantarainitiative.org [dg-bsc-bounces(a)kantarainitiative.org] on behalf of Eve Maler [eve.maler(a)forgerock.com] Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 3:07 PM To: dg-bsc(a)kantarainitiative.org Subject: [DG-BSC] Notes from BSC telecon Thursday, April 13 http://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/BSC/2017-04+%28April+2017%2… Agenda: * Report<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1HOVJ3lKqOIjwCqPt5jFxfLr7wEoJ0ZVNbMGsdsW…> work Attending: Eve, Matisse, Devon, Doug, Marco, Thomas, Susan At this point, people have had many chances to review most of the Report content; only a few pieces are new (though there are some holes yet to be filled). Most particularly, we need to decide on our Recommendations. Figure 1 highlights the need for a hashed data management system and an addressing management system, above and beyond native blockchain capabilities. Further, IAM infrastructure is separate. Thomas created this figure to point out the "stack" of needs. John W suggested adding the identities/entities on "either end". This is a key insight. Eve suggest that we all review the Report's observations, make candidate recommendations, and discuss and begin selecting them by next Thursday. We need to finish our work by the end of April. Matisse suggests that our recommendations should be about future research. Ethereum is under so many attacks that certain projects keep being pushing out. Susan notes that there is legislation starting up in 10 or more states. Should we develop guidance around legislation? Keep in mind Kantara's specific opportunities<http://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/GI/Home> for recommendations. Kantara could develop a specific liaison relationship with this ISO committee<https://www.iso.org/committee/6266604.html>, for example. We agreed to meet next Thursday, and negotiate any further meetings at that time, with no meetings beyond May 1 in any case! Eve Maler ForgeRock Office of the CTO | VP Innovation & Emerging Technology Cell +1 425.345.6756 | Skype: xmlgrrl | Twitter: @xmlgrrl

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Notes from BSC telecon Thursday, April 13
by Eve Maler 13 Apr '17

13 Apr '17

http://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/BSC/2017-04+%28April+2017%2… Agenda: - Report <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1HOVJ3lKqOIjwCqPt5jFxfLr7wEoJ0ZVNbMGsdsW…> work Attending: Eve, Matisse, Devon, Doug, Marco, Thomas, Susan At this point, people have had many chances to review most of the Report content; only a few pieces are new (though there are some holes yet to be filled). Most particularly, we need to decide on our Recommendations. Figure 1 highlights the need for a hashed data management system and an addressing management system, above and beyond native blockchain capabilities. Further, IAM infrastructure is separate. Thomas created this figure to point out the "stack" of needs. John W suggested adding the identities/entities on "either end". This is a key insight. Eve suggest that we all review the Report's observations, make candidate recommendations, and discuss and begin selecting them by next Thursday. We need to finish our work by the end of April. Matisse suggests that our recommendations should be about future research. Ethereum is under so many attacks that certain projects keep being pushing out. Susan notes that there is legislation starting up in 10 or more states. Should we develop guidance around legislation? Keep in mind Kantara's specific opportunities <http://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/GI/Home> for recommendations. Kantara could develop a specific liaison relationship with this ISO committee <https://www.iso.org/committee/6266604.html>, for example. We agreed to meet *next Thursday*, and negotiate any further meetings at that time, with *no meetings beyond May 1* in any case! *Eve Maler*ForgeRock Office of the CTO | VP Innovation & Emerging Technology Cell +1 425.345.6756 | Skype: xmlgrrl | Twitter: @xmlgrrl

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Long-awaited final review of our BSC DG Report
by Eve Maler 10 Apr '17

10 Apr '17

We have resurrected ONE meeting of our DG for *this Thursday*, to do a final review of our Report <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1HOVJ3lKqOIjwCqPt5jFxfLr7wEoJ0ZVNbMGsdsW…> (which we're still filling in as fast as we can, but which has seen significant progress over the last month). *Please plan to attend* on Thursday at the "usual" time, 11am PT/2pm ET/8pm CET (calendar is here <http://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/BSC/Calendar>). We will decide at that time whether we need to schedule another. Thanks to all those who have responded to namecheck comments inside the document. If you have been hanging onto a longstanding action item, now is the time to please complete it. If you have any questions, don't hesitate to let Thomas and me know. Thank you! *Eve Maler*ForgeRock Office of the CTO | VP Innovation & Emerging Technology Cell +1 425.345.6756 | Skype: xmlgrrl | Twitter: @xmlgrrl

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