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Using Join.me voice --- RE: Bridge details -- RE: BSC-DG Call Tuesday July/12/2016 at 10:30AM-EST (7:30AM-PST & 16:30PM-CET)
by Thomas Hardjono 12 Jul '16

12 Jul '16

Folks, We may not be able to use the bridge from last week. If so, let us try using the voice feature on Join.me. URL is just www.join.me/FindThomas /thomas/ ________________________________________ From: Thomas Hardjono [hardjono(a)mit.edu] Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2016 9:48 AM To: dg-bsc(a)kantarainitiative.org Cc: eve.maler(a)forgerock.com; james.g.hazard(a)gmail.com; hardjono(a)media.mit.edu Subject: Bridge details -- RE: BSC-DG Call Tuesday July/12/2016 at 10:30AM-EST (7:30AM-PST & 16:30PM-CET) Folks, While we await the permanent number/code we can trying using last week's bridge. I've also attached a backup number. (a) Bridge number: Dial-in: Skype:+99051000000481 * US Dial-In: +1-805-309-2350 | Room Code: 613-2898 * For more dial-in information, see: http://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/GI/Telco+Bridge+Info Local & International Phone Numbers (Toll) Local, Skype & SIP Access United States Toll +1 (805) 309-2350 Alternate Toll +1 (714) 551-9842 Skype [+99051000000481] Skype Name: Turbo Bridge TurboPhone (beta): https://www.turbobridge.com/join.html Works with Internet Explorer on Windows only SIP Access (using IP phone or soft phone) sip:bridge@turbobridge.com SIP URL details: https://www.turbobridge.com/help/Index.html?context=180 (b) Backup number: Conference Dial-in Number: (605) 475-4700 Participant Access Code: 176720# Screen sharing using Join.Me: join.me/findthomas /thomas/ ________________________________________ From: Thomas Hardjono [hardjono(a)mit.edu] Sent: Monday, July 11, 2016 10:31 PM To: dg-bsc(a)kantarainitiative.org Cc: eve.maler(a)forgerock.com; james.g.hazard(a)gmail.com; hardjono(a)media.mit.edu Subject: BSC-DG Call Tuesday July/12/2016 at 10:30AM-EST (7:30AM-PST & 16:30PM-CET) Folks, Just a quick reminder of this week's BSC-DG call. - Tuesdays: 10:30AM-EST (7:30AM-PST & 16:30PM-CET) - 30 minutes - Thursdays: 2:00PM-EST (11AM-PST & 20:00PM-CET) -- 30 minutes Best. Thomas/Eve/Jim

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Bridge details -- RE: BSC-DG Call Tuesday July/12/2016 at 10:30AM-EST (7:30AM-PST & 16:30PM-CET)
by Thomas Hardjono 12 Jul '16

12 Jul '16

Folks, While we await the permanent number/code we can trying using last week's bridge. I've also attached a backup number. (a) Bridge number: Dial-in: Skype:+99051000000481 * US Dial-In: +1-805-309-2350 | Room Code: 613-2898 * For more dial-in information, see: http://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/GI/Telco+Bridge+Info Local & International Phone Numbers (Toll) Local, Skype & SIP Access United States Toll +1 (805) 309-2350 Alternate Toll +1 (714) 551-9842 Skype [+99051000000481] Skype Name: Turbo Bridge TurboPhone (beta): https://www.turbobridge.com/join.html Works with Internet Explorer on Windows only SIP Access (using IP phone or soft phone) sip:bridge@turbobridge.com SIP URL details: https://www.turbobridge.com/help/Index.html?context=180 (b) Backup number: Conference Dial-in Number: (605) 475-4700 Participant Access Code: 176720# Screen sharing using Join.Me: join.me/findthomas /thomas/ ________________________________________ From: Thomas Hardjono [hardjono(a)mit.edu] Sent: Monday, July 11, 2016 10:31 PM To: dg-bsc(a)kantarainitiative.org Cc: eve.maler(a)forgerock.com; james.g.hazard(a)gmail.com; hardjono(a)media.mit.edu Subject: BSC-DG Call Tuesday July/12/2016 at 10:30AM-EST (7:30AM-PST & 16:30PM-CET) Folks, Just a quick reminder of this week's BSC-DG call. - Tuesdays: 10:30AM-EST (7:30AM-PST & 16:30PM-CET) - 30 minutes - Thursdays: 2:00PM-EST (11AM-PST & 20:00PM-CET) -- 30 minutes Best. Thomas/Eve/Jim

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BSC-DG Call Tuesday July/12/2016 at 10:30AM-EST (7:30AM-PST & 16:30PM-CET)
by Thomas Hardjono 11 Jul '16

11 Jul '16

Folks, Just a quick reminder of this week's BSC-DG call. - Tuesdays: 10:30AM-EST (7:30AM-PST & 16:30PM-CET) - 30 minutes - Thursdays: 2:00PM-EST (11AM-PST & 20:00PM-CET) -- 30 minutes Best. Thomas/Eve/Jim

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Reminder: Our two-calls-a-week schedule doesn't start until next week
by Eve Maler 07 Jul '16

07 Jul '16

(end of message) *Eve Maler*ForgeRock Office of the CTO | VP Innovation & Emerging Technology Cell +1 425.345.6756 | Skype: xmlgrrl | Twitter: @xmlgrrl *ForgeRock Summits and UnSummits* are coming to <http://summits.forgerock.com/> *Sydney, London, and Paris!*

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Notes from BSC DG telecon on July 5
by Eve Maler 05 Jul '16

05 Jul '16

Since we'll be meeting so frequently, I've gone for a hybrid approach to collecting meeting notes: Put all notes from each month into a single wiki page. The TOC for each of these pages will hopefully be self-explanatory and not too terribly overwhelming. If you'd prefer for me to collect *all* notes into a single page across our lifespan, I can change to that. http://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/BSC/2016-07+%28July+2016%29… Eve is taking notes and is happy to take notes in future. *Attendees and introductions* Please send introductions to the list if Eve got anything wrong! - Jim Hazard - Lawyer frustrated with word processing - Eve Maler - ForgeRock - interesting UMA/smart contract connections - Thomas Hardjono - interest in getting a high-level language specified for contracts - Andrew Hughes - runs the Leadership Council - Jeff Stallman - blockchain developer - Scott Shorter - Kimble & Associates - doing some ONC work, auditing, and governance - Don Quigley - director of services leader for GE - Mark Aronson - Penn council of notaries - Kathleen Connor - consultant involved in UMA, UMA legal, and ONC - Ann Vroom - private individual interested in blockchain - Clare Nelson - AllClearID - Thorsten Niebuhr - John Wunderlich - Javier Moreno - Colin Wallis *What is a DG about?* A DG has more informal deliverables. It might, for example, recommend formation of a WG. There are several Kantara WGs and efforts that have a legal flavor to them: - UMA, with its UMA legal subgroup - Consent and Information Sharing - The Identity Assurance effort, with its trust framework components Smart contracts, broadly defined as executable code to represent legal agreements, are one way to approach agreements. *Participant goals* Jim briefly described his work on digitizing legal agreements. Eve briefly described some discussion from the Digital Contracts event/workshop of six weeks ago. The worlds of smart contracts and digital contracts that use natural language are distinct. There’s a gap between them. It seems to be narrowing, but there seems to be urgency about closing the gap and connecting them. Mark says that notary had been used previously as a synonym for timestamping. Now blockchain is coming to the fore in the same way. John would like to clarify what goes, and what should go, on a blockchain. Jim believes that smart contracts would be good to focus on independently of how they themselves are recorded. Blockchain is often the wrong way to store information. Jeff concurs with that. Blockchain is a suite of technologies, and you don’t always need all of them. Kathleen is working for the DHA security architect. The overhead for establishing trust frameworks is incredible. Adding agility would be great. Also, helping privacy, security, and administrative parts of healthcare to scale — HL7 V2, V3, and FHIR — is important. Clare is a fan of Steve Wilson of Constellation. UBS is spending a lot of money in financial services. She’s interested in pursuing a conversation along that path. John also notes that “contracts of adhesion” that often force individuals to accept terms and conditions are another use case where scalability of forming agreements would help — in this case, help individuals directly. Scott brings up a long-ago goal of technically verifiable agreements that have been parameterized. It now seems a lot more possible. *Logistics and deliverables* How often to meet? Andrew recommends five months of intensive meeting and discussion, one month of intensive writing, and the reporting out. Several people speak up in favor of frequent short/intensive meetings. Deliverables? Thomas suggests a use case document, ranked by priority. John summarizes the discussion by suggesting a final deliverable that would be a briefing note that contains “what is a BC, what is CmA, what are the kinds of contracts that have ‘smarts’, use cases, issue identification and analysis”, etc. We could take a look at some of the outputs of the Digital Contracts event held May 23-24, which Kantara helped to sponsor as part of our work. Jim met with Bart Suiches of the Philips Blockchain Lab subsequently to the Digital Contracts event and discussed patient consents as a use case. John cautions about using health as our first or primary use case for discussion. Jim agrees that it’s the hardest case, which makes it attractive to him. But we can start simple. Bart told him they’re absorbed figuring out the GDPR. Don’t forget that we can use our mailing list for discussion. *Next steps* *AI:* Eve: Share out links to notes and artifacts from the Digital Contracts event. Let’s meet twice a week for 30 minutes each, at different times to spread out for US and Europe, and to avoid the UMA call. They will be (we think) at Tue 11am ET and Thu 2pm ET. The group reached consensus on having Thomas and Eve as co-chairs. Scott kindly agreed to serve as use case collector on the DG wiki. John created a use case template <http://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/infosharing/Use+Case%3A+Tem…> for CIS WG usage we might consider using. *AI:* Thomas: Send out a note confirming the call times and set up the call dial-ins with Shannon. We’ll start the repeating call series next week. *Eve Maler*ForgeRock Office of the CTO | VP Innovation & Emerging Technology Cell +1 425.345.6756 | Skype: xmlgrrl | Twitter: @xmlgrrl *ForgeRock Summits and UnSummits* are coming to <http://summits.forgerock.com/> *Sydney, London, and Paris!*

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Correction - RE: Twice-weekly BSC-DG telecon calls
by Thomas Hardjono 05 Jul '16

05 Jul '16

Correction: - Tuesdays: 10:30AM-EST (7:30AM-PST & 16:30PM-CET) - 30 minutes - Thursdays: 2:00PM-EST (11AM-PST & 20:00PM-CET) -- 30 minutes (Thanks Marc) /thomas/ ------------------------------------------ >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Thomas Hardjono >>> Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2016 3:42 PM >>> To: dg-bsc(a)kantarainitiative.org >>> Cc: Thomas Hardjono; eve.maler(a)forgerock.com; Jim Hazard >>> (james.g.hazard(a)gmail.com) Shannon Taylor (staylor(a)virtualmgmt.com) >>> Subject: Twice-weekly BSC-DG telecon calls >>> >>> >>> Folks, >>> >>> Thank you for attending the first DG Telecon call today. >>> >>> In order to avoid a time-clash with the Kantara CIS weekly call, we will >>> swap the times on Tuesdays and Thursdays for our telecons. >>> >>> Note that our twice-weekly calls is only scheduled for 30 minutes each. >>> >>> Here are the times: >>> >>> - Tuesdays: 10:30AM-EST (7:30AM-PST & 16:30PM-CET) - 30 minutes >>> >>> - Thursdays: 2:00AM-EST (11AM-PST & 20:00PM-CET) -- 30 minutes >>> >>> >>> I will follow-up with the bridge numbers. >>> >>> In the meantime, please begin to think about use-cases. >>> >>> >>> Best. >>> >>> >>> Thomas/Eve/Jim >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------ >>>

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Twice-weekly BSC-DG telecon calls
by Thomas Hardjono 05 Jul '16

05 Jul '16

Folks, Thank you for attending the first DG Telecon call today. In order to avoid a time-clash with the Kantara CIS weekly call, we will swap the times on Tuesdays and Thursdays for our telecons. Note that our twice-weekly calls is only scheduled for 30 minutes each. Here are the times: - Tuesdays: 10:30AM-EST (7:30AM-PST & 16:30PM-CET) - 30 minutes - Thursdays: 2:00AM-EST (11AM-PST & 20:00PM-CET) -- 30 minutes I will follow-up with the bridge numbers. In the meantime, please begin to think about use-cases. Best. Thomas/Eve/Jim ------------------------------------------

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BSC Proposed Agenda & Bridge details --- RE: BSC first telecon call (Kantara DG - Blockchain and Smart Contracts)
by Thomas Hardjono 30 Jun '16

30 Jun '16

Folks, Below is the proposed agenda and call-in information for our first BSC telecon next week. Best. Thomas/Jim/Eve -------------------------------------------------- == Kantara Blockchain & Smart Contracts DG == (a) Proposed Agenda: (i) Introductions, purpose & duration of the BSC DG. (ii) Use-Cases. (iii) Potential work items. (iv) Frequency of future telecons & dates/times. (b) Bridge information: Date: Tuesday, July 5, 2:00pm EDT (11AM-Pacific) Dial-in: Skype:+99051000000481 * US Dial-In: +1-805-309-2350 | Room Code: 613-2898 * For more dial-in information, see: http://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/GI/Telco+Bridge+Info Local & International Phone Numbers (Toll) Local, Skype & SIP Access United States Toll +1 (805) 309-2350 Alternate Toll +1 (714) 551-9842 Skype [+99051000000481] Skype Name: Turbo Bridge TurboPhone (beta): https://www.turbobridge.com/join.html Works with Internet Explorer on Windows only SIP Access (using IP phone or soft phone) sip:bridge@turbobridge.com SIP URL details: https://www.turbobridge.com/help/Index.html?context=180 -------------------------------------------------

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Kantara: Blockchain and Smart Contract DG MEETING NOTICE
by Shannon Taylor 29 Jun '16

29 Jun '16

All, The Kantara Blockchain and Smart Contract Discussion Group will hold a meeting on Tuesday, July 5 at 2:00pm EDT. The call details can be found below or in the attached. Please take this opportunity to update your calendar accordingly so you don't miss this meeting. Regards, Shannon Taylor _____ Tuesday, July 5 2:00pm EDT Dial-in: Skype:+99051000000481 * US Dial-In: +1-805-309-2350 | Room Code: 613-2898 * For more dial-in information, see: http://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/GI/Telco+Bridge+Info +The following commands may be used participants during the conference call:+ *0 Plays menu of Keypad Commands *3 Promote to Host (if non-host) *5 Raise your hand *6 Mute yourself (toggle on/off) *# Private roll call of participants *\* Mute music-on-hold (toggle on/off) Local & International Phone Numbers (Toll) Local, Skype & SIP Access United States Toll +1 (805) 309-2350 Alternate Toll +1 (714) 551-9842 Skype [+99051000000481] Skype Name: Turbo Bridge TurboPhone (beta): https://www.turbobridge.com/join.html Works with Internet Explorer on Windows only SIP Access (using IP phone or soft phone) sip:bridge@turbobridge.com SIP URL details: https://www.turbobridge.com/help/Index.html?context=180

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Result from Doodle poll -- RE: BSC first telecon call (Kantara DG - Blockchain and Smart Contracts)
by Thomas Hardjono 28 Jun '16

28 Jun '16

Folks, I have left open the Doodle poll for a week now, and have just closed it. The following is the final date/time for our first telecon: - Date: July 5th - Time: 2PM-EST (11AM-PST or 19:00 UK time) - apologies to people in Europe. I will follow-up with the dial-in information and draft agenda. Note that during this meeting we will decide on the frequency of future meetings and date/time. Best. Thomas, Jim and Eve ________________________________________ From: dg-bsc-bounces(a)kantarainitiative.org [dg-bsc-bounces(a)kantarainitiative.org] on behalf of Thomas Hardjono [hardjono(a)mit.edu] Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2016 2:56 PM To: dg-bsc(a)kantarainitiative.org Cc: hardjono(a)media.mit.edu Subject: [DG-BSC] BSC first telecon call (Kantara DG - Blockchain and Smart Contracts) Folks, We are planning to have the first telecon call of our discussion group (DG) on blockchain and smart contracts (BSC) in the week of July 5th. (Note that July 4th is a public holiday in the US). I have created a Doodle poll for people to decide the best date/time during that week (Tuesday, Wednesday or Thursday that week): http://doodle.com/poll/5yiiwpcpqrnnhiux The bridge/telecon number will follow. Best. Thomas, Jim and Eve _______________________________________________ DG-BSC mailing list DG-BSC(a)kantarainitiative.org http://kantarainitiative.org/mailman/listinfo/dg-bsc

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