On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 3:44 PM, Thorsten H. Niebuhr [WedaCon GmbH] <tniebuhr@wedacon.net> wrote:
Hi John,
I am sorry to have missed that call...
(especially because of the relationship topics....)
:)
T.
On 29.11.2016 21:41, John Moehrke wrote:
Thorsten,
I think what you said is consistent with what I said on the call today. This is why the relationship is important, but independent from identity.
John
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On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 1:50 PM, Thorsten H. Niebuhr [WedaCon GmbH] <tniebuhr@wedacon.net> wrote:
It not a question about identities or 'phones'. It can be anything which can act on 'behalf' of a real or legal person, directly or indirectly (with a ton of relations in between). I prefer to talk about 'entities' and their relations (Entity Relationship Management), which is represented by a graph.
my 2 cent
T.
On 29.11.2016 20:37, John Moehrke wrote:
James, phones or
That would only be true in abstract. In reality both phones have an identity. The human creates a new relationship with that new phone, and hopefully disconnects the relationship with the old phone.
John
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On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 12:55 PM, James Hazard <james.g.hazard@gmail.com> wrote:
I don't think of a device as being in a kind of person. It's something like the place that information is stored. Not even an identity. I can change phones. At a really technical (coding) level, this gets more complicated, but in the "graph" of relationships, it doesn't matter which computer I use to write this message.--
On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 9:26 AM, John Wunderlich <john@wunderlich.ca> wrote:
John M. pointed out that the non-natural person was missing, so I redid it as attached:
On 29 November 2016 at 12:07, James Hazard <james.g.hazard@gmail.com> wrote:
This image is great! I'll find a place for it along with this one by Thomas - http://www.commonaccord.org/index.php?action=doc&file=S/Ab out/Conference/Flyer/0.md#Diag ram
(Separately, I'm asked Norton Rose for a copy of their report on enforceability of smart contracts, and permission to circulate on the mailing list.)
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