Notes from BSC telecon Tuesday, January 3
http://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/BSC/2017-01+%28January+2017%... Agenda: - Report <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1HOVJ3lKqOIjwCqPt5jFxfLr7wEoJ0ZVNbMGsdsWzCKQ/edit?usp=sharing> work Attending: Eve, Thomas, Kathleen, Matisse, Thorsten, Adrian, Susan, Devon (finishing law school, studying data privacy), SteveO, JohnW Our DG's life is extended just for this next month. Kathleen points to the 21st Century Cures Act (house bill link <http://docs.house.gov/billsthisweek/20161128/CPRT-114-HPRT-RU00-SAHR34.pdf>). It calls for a trust framework. Adrian notes that it mentions longitudinal health records, which is a novel challenge in the patient context vs. clinical research (subjects). See his blog post <http://thehealthcareblog.com/blog/2016/12/16/making-the-physician-patient-relationship-great-again/> . To pick a fintech use case, can we find one with an individual perspective vs. an institutional perspective? Can we pick one from Sedona <https://thesedonaconference.org/> that has the right characteristics? Susan notes that Everledger is working to ensure that the ethical diamond use case is protecting workers etc., not just tracking the diamonds. What about BanQu <http://www.banquapp.com/> ("Dignity Through Identity") as a financial use case for empowerment? Susan has talked to the principal. *AI:* Eve to send the questionnaire to Susan for sharing with the BanQu person and to Adrian for sharing with the Consensys people. *AI:* Thomas: Fill out the questionnaire for Enigma/Opal. *AI:* Adrian: Fill out the questionnaire for his use case (and/or write the full use case! ). *AI:* Eve: Flesh out report outline (hopefully together with Thomas), completing AIs in report comments, before our Thursday meeting. *Eve Maler*ForgeRock Office of the CTO | VP Innovation & Emerging Technology Cell +1 425.345.6756 | Skype: xmlgrrl | Twitter: @xmlgrrl
Completing my action item, here's the questionnaire information previously provided in a list email. Note that we're now combining case studies and use cases. ==== For *case studies*, we said we'd use a questionnaire approach something like this: - Deficits and benefits of how the problem space was/is being solved - Proposed benefits of the new solution space – crystalize this (e.g., fraud, not "user empowerment"?) - Different approaches being taken (e.g., whitelist? blacklist? other?) in the new solution space - Strengths, weaknesses, risks, and open issues being seen in practice - Cross-references to the appropriate other technology, case study, and use case sections - Since our Report process is time-boxed, go into only as much depth as you can in a short period of time For *use cases*, we already have a template <http://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/BSC/Use+Case+Template> in use; I feel it may benefit from *enhancement* with points from the above. For *technology/technique sections*, we said we'd like to see this information: - A definition - A short discussion of strengths and weakness of the current way of doing things - A short comparative discussion of strengths and weakness of the new way of doing things (if the technology/technique is "new") - Pointers to the other technology and technique sections as appropriate (so that we have cross-references among the sections) *Eve Maler*ForgeRock Office of the CTO | VP Innovation & Emerging Technology Cell +1 425.345.6756 | Skype: xmlgrrl | Twitter: @xmlgrrl On Tue, Jan 3, 2017 at 11:08 AM, Eve Maler <eve.maler@forgerock.com> wrote:
http://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/BSC/2017- 01+%28January+2017%29+Meetings#id-2017-01(January2017)Meetings-Tuesday, January3
Agenda:
- Report <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1HOVJ3lKqOIjwCqPt5jFxfLr7wEoJ0ZVNbMGsdsWzCKQ/edit?usp=sharing> work
Attending: Eve, Thomas, Kathleen, Matisse, Thorsten, Adrian, Susan, Devon (finishing law school, studying data privacy), SteveO, JohnW
Our DG's life is extended just for this next month.
Kathleen points to the 21st Century Cures Act (house bill link <http://docs.house.gov/billsthisweek/20161128/CPRT-114-HPRT-RU00-SAHR34.pdf>). It calls for a trust framework. Adrian notes that it mentions longitudinal health records, which is a novel challenge in the patient context vs. clinical research (subjects). See his blog post <http://thehealthcareblog.com/blog/2016/12/16/making-the-physician-patient-relationship-great-again/> .
To pick a fintech use case, can we find one with an individual perspective vs. an institutional perspective? Can we pick one from Sedona <https://thesedonaconference.org/> that has the right characteristics? Susan notes that Everledger is working to ensure that the ethical diamond use case is protecting workers etc., not just tracking the diamonds. What about BanQu <http://www.banquapp.com/> ("Dignity Through Identity") as a financial use case for empowerment? Susan has talked to the principal.
*AI:* Eve to send the questionnaire to Susan for sharing with the BanQu person and to Adrian for sharing with the Consensys people.
*AI:* Thomas: Fill out the questionnaire for Enigma/Opal.
*AI:* Adrian: Fill out the questionnaire for his use case (and/or write the full use case! ).
*AI:* Eve: Flesh out report outline (hopefully together with Thomas), completing AIs in report comments, before our Thursday meeting.
*Eve Maler*ForgeRock Office of the CTO | VP Innovation & Emerging Technology Cell +1 425.345.6756 <(425)%20345-6756> | Skype: xmlgrrl | Twitter: @xmlgrrl
Answer from Ashish, founder of BanQu: Hi Susan ! Happy new year ! So good to hear from you. We would absolutely love to be in the report. But right now we are completely swamped with our global rollout to be able to pull together this info. Love to participate in the next one. Btw- we have a major piece in the economic identity report that UN put out last week Susan SheTechPower 914.924.1994 This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review; use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail, delete and then destroy all copies of the original message.
On Jan 3, 2017, at 2:11 PM, Eve Maler <eve.maler@forgerock.com> wrote:
Completing my action item, here's the questionnaire information previously provided in a list email. Note that we're now combining case studies and use cases.
====
For case studies, we said we'd use a questionnaire approach something like this: Deficits and benefits of how the problem space was/is being solved Proposed benefits of the new solution space – crystalize this (e.g., fraud, not "user empowerment"?) Different approaches being taken (e.g., whitelist? blacklist? other?) in the new solution space Strengths, weaknesses, risks, and open issues being seen in practice Cross-references to the appropriate other technology, case study, and use case sections Since our Report process is time-boxed, go into only as much depth as you can in a short period of time For use cases, we already have a template in use; I feel it may benefit from enhancement with points from the above.
For technology/technique sections, we said we'd like to see this information: A definition A short discussion of strengths and weakness of the current way of doing things A short comparative discussion of strengths and weakness of the new way of doing things (if the technology/technique is "new") Pointers to the other technology and technique sections as appropriate (so that we have cross-references among the sections)
Eve Maler ForgeRock Office of the CTO | VP Innovation & Emerging Technology Cell +1 425.345.6756 | Skype: xmlgrrl | Twitter: @xmlgrrl
On Tue, Jan 3, 2017 at 11:08 AM, Eve Maler <eve.maler@forgerock.com> wrote: http://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/BSC/2017-01+%28January+2017%... Agenda:
Report work Attending: Eve, Thomas, Kathleen, Matisse, Thorsten, Adrian, Susan, Devon (finishing law school, studying data privacy), SteveO, JohnW
Our DG's life is extended just for this next month.
Kathleen points to the 21st Century Cures Act (house bill link). It calls for a trust framework. Adrian notes that it mentions longitudinal health records, which is a novel challenge in the patient context vs. clinical research (subjects). See his blog post.
To pick a fintech use case, can we find one with an individual perspective vs. an institutional perspective? Can we pick one from Sedona that has the right characteristics? Susan notes that Everledger is working to ensure that the ethical diamond use case is protecting workers etc., not just tracking the diamonds. What about BanQu ("Dignity Through Identity") as a financial use case for empowerment? Susan has talked to the principal.
AI: Eve to send the questionnaire to Susan for sharing with the BanQu person and to Adrian for sharing with the Consensys people.
AI: Thomas: Fill out the questionnaire for Enigma/Opal.
AI: Adrian: Fill out the questionnaire for his use case (and/or write the full use case! ).
AI: Eve: Flesh out report outline (hopefully together with Thomas), completing AIs in report comments, before our Thursday meeting.
Eve Maler ForgeRock Office of the CTO | VP Innovation & Emerging Technology Cell +1 425.345.6756 | Skype: xmlgrrl | Twitter: @xmlgrrl
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Have you thought of asking securekey to participate or bitpesa? Either are in the fintech/identityblockchain genre. Securekey sits on an idesg committee and I can get to them or I can get in touch with the head of bitpesa if you want to ask them to participate. Did you want to send questions to everledger (the diamond blockchain company)? Ok ow them pretty well and can send in whatever you'd like to ask, if anything. Susan SheTechPower 914.924.1994 This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review; use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail, delete and then destroy all copies of the original message.
On Jan 3, 2017, at 2:11 PM, Eve Maler <eve.maler@forgerock.com> wrote:
Completing my action item, here's the questionnaire information previously provided in a list email. Note that we're now combining case studies and use cases.
====
For case studies, we said we'd use a questionnaire approach something like this: Deficits and benefits of how the problem space was/is being solved Proposed benefits of the new solution space – crystalize this (e.g., fraud, not "user empowerment"?) Different approaches being taken (e.g., whitelist? blacklist? other?) in the new solution space Strengths, weaknesses, risks, and open issues being seen in practice Cross-references to the appropriate other technology, case study, and use case sections Since our Report process is time-boxed, go into only as much depth as you can in a short period of time For use cases, we already have a template in use; I feel it may benefit from enhancement with points from the above.
For technology/technique sections, we said we'd like to see this information: A definition A short discussion of strengths and weakness of the current way of doing things A short comparative discussion of strengths and weakness of the new way of doing things (if the technology/technique is "new") Pointers to the other technology and technique sections as appropriate (so that we have cross-references among the sections)
Eve Maler ForgeRock Office of the CTO | VP Innovation & Emerging Technology Cell +1 425.345.6756 | Skype: xmlgrrl | Twitter: @xmlgrrl
On Tue, Jan 3, 2017 at 11:08 AM, Eve Maler <eve.maler@forgerock.com> wrote: http://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/BSC/2017-01+%28January+2017%... Agenda:
Report work Attending: Eve, Thomas, Kathleen, Matisse, Thorsten, Adrian, Susan, Devon (finishing law school, studying data privacy), SteveO, JohnW
Our DG's life is extended just for this next month.
Kathleen points to the 21st Century Cures Act (house bill link). It calls for a trust framework. Adrian notes that it mentions longitudinal health records, which is a novel challenge in the patient context vs. clinical research (subjects). See his blog post.
To pick a fintech use case, can we find one with an individual perspective vs. an institutional perspective? Can we pick one from Sedona that has the right characteristics? Susan notes that Everledger is working to ensure that the ethical diamond use case is protecting workers etc., not just tracking the diamonds. What about BanQu ("Dignity Through Identity") as a financial use case for empowerment? Susan has talked to the principal.
AI: Eve to send the questionnaire to Susan for sharing with the BanQu person and to Adrian for sharing with the Consensys people.
AI: Thomas: Fill out the questionnaire for Enigma/Opal.
AI: Adrian: Fill out the questionnaire for his use case (and/or write the full use case! ).
AI: Eve: Flesh out report outline (hopefully together with Thomas), completing AIs in report comments, before our Thursday meeting.
Eve Maler ForgeRock Office of the CTO | VP Innovation & Emerging Technology Cell +1 425.345.6756 | Skype: xmlgrrl | Twitter: @xmlgrrl
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I know SecureKey pretty well. They have traditionally been all about federation and brokerage. I see where they have gotten investment <https://medium.com/@jennifer.schenker/how-blockchain-will-allow-banks-to-become-brokers-of-personal-data-7d2971ed222e#.4xs8xarkj> to get into the blockchain and permissioning game. That will be interesting. :-) Maybe reach out to Andre and point him to our work and ask him for his general thoughts... ;-) Colin has suggested Taqanu Bank <http://www.taqanu.com/#overview>, which is already engaged in a Kantara-related discussion and has provided initial info. I'm inclined to go with that, if it works for people. Regarding Everledger, we discussed how we're looking for use cases that have individual empowerment more at the core, but if you like, maybe you can ask for commentary about aspects of the use case that have this element. ? *Eve Maler*ForgeRock Office of the CTO | VP Innovation & Emerging Technology Cell +1 425.345.6756 | Skype: xmlgrrl | Twitter: @xmlgrrl On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 11:57 AM, Susan <susan.joseph1786@gmail.com> wrote:
Have you thought of asking securekey to participate or bitpesa? Either are in the fintech/identityblockchain genre.
Securekey sits on an idesg committee and I can get to them or I can get in touch with the head of bitpesa if you want to ask them to participate.
Did you want to send questions to everledger (the diamond blockchain company)? Ok ow them pretty well and can send in whatever you'd like to ask, if anything.
Susan
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On Jan 3, 2017, at 2:11 PM, Eve Maler <eve.maler@forgerock.com> wrote:
Completing my action item, here's the questionnaire information previously provided in a list email. Note that we're now combining case studies and use cases.
====
For *case studies*, we said we'd use a questionnaire approach something like this:
- Deficits and benefits of how the problem space was/is being solved - Proposed benefits of the new solution space – crystalize this (e.g., fraud, not "user empowerment"?) - Different approaches being taken (e.g., whitelist? blacklist? other?) in the new solution space - Strengths, weaknesses, risks, and open issues being seen in practice - Cross-references to the appropriate other technology, case study, and use case sections - Since our Report process is time-boxed, go into only as much depth as you can in a short period of time
For *use cases*, we already have a template <http://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/BSC/Use+Case+Template> in use; I feel it may benefit from *enhancement* with points from the above.
For *technology/technique sections*, we said we'd like to see this information:
- A definition - A short discussion of strengths and weakness of the current way of doing things - A short comparative discussion of strengths and weakness of the new way of doing things (if the technology/technique is "new") - Pointers to the other technology and technique sections as appropriate (so that we have cross-references among the sections)
*Eve Maler*ForgeRock Office of the CTO | VP Innovation & Emerging Technology Cell +1 425.345.6756 <(425)%20345-6756> | Skype: xmlgrrl | Twitter: @xmlgrrl
On Tue, Jan 3, 2017 at 11:08 AM, Eve Maler <eve.maler@forgerock.com> wrote:
http://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/BSC/2017-01+ %28January+2017%29+Meetings#id-2017-01(January2017) Meetings-Tuesday,January3
Agenda:
- Report <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1HOVJ3lKqOIjwCqPt5jFxfLr7wEoJ0ZVNbMGsdsWzCKQ/edit?usp=sharing> work
Attending: Eve, Thomas, Kathleen, Matisse, Thorsten, Adrian, Susan, Devon (finishing law school, studying data privacy), SteveO, JohnW
Our DG's life is extended just for this next month.
Kathleen points to the 21st Century Cures Act (house bill link <http://docs.house.gov/billsthisweek/20161128/CPRT-114-HPRT-RU00-SAHR34.pdf>). It calls for a trust framework. Adrian notes that it mentions longitudinal health records, which is a novel challenge in the patient context vs. clinical research (subjects). See his blog post <http://thehealthcareblog.com/blog/2016/12/16/making-the-physician-patient-relationship-great-again/> .
To pick a fintech use case, can we find one with an individual perspective vs. an institutional perspective? Can we pick one from Sedona <https://thesedonaconference.org/> that has the right characteristics? Susan notes that Everledger is working to ensure that the ethical diamond use case is protecting workers etc., not just tracking the diamonds. What about BanQu <http://www.banquapp.com/> ("Dignity Through Identity") as a financial use case for empowerment? Susan has talked to the principal.
*AI:* Eve to send the questionnaire to Susan for sharing with the BanQu person and to Adrian for sharing with the Consensys people.
*AI:* Thomas: Fill out the questionnaire for Enigma/Opal.
*AI:* Adrian: Fill out the questionnaire for his use case (and/or write the full use case! ).
*AI:* Eve: Flesh out report outline (hopefully together with Thomas), completing AIs in report comments, before our Thursday meeting.
*Eve Maler*ForgeRock Office of the CTO | VP Innovation & Emerging Technology Cell +1 425.345.6756 <(425)%20345-6756> | Skype: xmlgrrl | Twitter: @xmlgrrl
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