FYI. -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [OpenID] Yahoo's "Project Rushmore" Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 15:57:44 -0500 From: Brett McDowell <email@brettmcdowell.com> To: Johannes Ernst <jernst+openid.net@netmesh.us> CC: openid-general@lists.openid.net References: <F5522D29-1271-401B-9B3F-49367E0D0D3E@netmesh.us> <1bc4603e0912020946r2ec61de1m5d184db8930b8041@mail.gmail.com> <67B15B73-02EB-4278-B2AE-1E18E2BA9D57@netmesh.us> I think the question isn't about why Yahoo! would implement Facebook Connect (seems obvious... they want to connect with Facebook) but rather does OpenID (or some OpenID+ hybrid profile) an equal or superior option for integrating with Facebook today. If not, then I'd suggest that's where the focus of this conversation should be. Only after we can convince ourselves that we have an equal or superior alternative should we turn this into an advocacy/evangelism effort. For now our goals might be best served by approaching this as a requirements, development, usability and interoperability effort... with Facebook and Yahoo! representatives deeply involved. Another parallel approach might be to work with the Concordia folks on cross-protocol interoperability/harmonization between OpenID and Facebook Connect. Brett McDowell | http://info.brettmcdowell.com | http://KantaraInitiative.org On Dec 2, 2009, at 1:22 PM, Johannes Ernst wrote:

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On Dec 2, 2009, at 9:46, Chris Messina wrote:

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we need identity++!

I'd call that, naturally, multiple personality disorder. But then, if it is post-incremented, we might have a chance ;-)

But seriously, I think I understand the business logic for what has been announced, and that business logic is rather revolutionary.

If Yahoo can apply this business logic, many others will follow the same logic leading to FB (a single-vendor solution).

The questions are: 1. why not OpenID? (and other open standards) [methinks: we don't have our act together] 2. is anybody bothered by that? [methinks: I'm not sure, to be honest] 3. if enough people are bothered enough about it, what are we going to do about it?

Cheers,

Johannes.

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