November 2024 - DG-DeepfakesIDV - mailman.kantarainitiative.org

Call for final recommendations....
by Jay Meier 27 Nov '24

27 Nov '24

Hello Everybody. As a reminder, we will soon wrap up our work in the Kantara IDV-DeepFake Discussion Group. However, for that to happen, we must zero in on some high-level recommendations the group will include in the final deliverable. We are asking everyone in the group to submit their personal recommendations they believe the Group should include. Your recommendation could be anything YOU believe the world needs or should understand and focus on, after this Discussion Group ends. There are no wrong answers here. Your opinion matters. Next Tuesday, December 3, is the LAST DAY to submit your recommendations. As noted, you are welcome to send in more than one. However, you must prioritize them. Your first recommendation will be viewed as more important than your second, etc, etc. So please take a moment and send them in. Thanks so much. J Jay Meier Senior Vice President - North American Operations jay(a)facetec.com | 612-978-3687 www.FaceTec.com <http://www.facetec.com/> | www.Liveness.com <http://www.liveness.com/> | www.SpoofBounty.com <http://www.spoofbounty.com/> Confidentiality Notice: This message is intended only for the use of the Addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. Please erase all copies of the message and its attachments.

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Deepfakes IDV DG
by Andrew Hughes 27 Nov '24

27 Nov '24

Reminder: Deepfake threats/IDV call in 30 minutes. Jay and Maxine are not available - so I'll run the call. We will talk about the Recommendation section today. andrew. Deepfakes IDV DG Wednesday Nov 27, 2024 ⋅ 09:00 – 10:00 Pacific Time - Vancouver Location https://us06web.zoom.us/j/86156446139?pwd=NVZJcVFOZmc3a1NWS0J6SURmc1VKUT09 https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fus06web.zoom.us%2Fj%2F8615644613… Join Zoom Meetinghttps://us06web.zoom.us/j/86156446139?pwd=NVZJcVFOZmc3a1NWS0J6SURmc1VKUT09Kantara Initiative - Deepfakes IDV Discussion Group wikihttps://kantara.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/DGDF/overviewDG Mailing listhttps://mailman.kantarainitiative.org/postorius/lists/dg-deepfakesidv.k… Initiative is inviting you to a scheduled Zoom meeting.Meeting ID: 861 5644 6139Passcode: 808675Kantara Initiative is inviting you to a scheduled Zoom meeting.Topic: Deepfakes IDV DGTime: Oct 11, 2023 12:00 PM Eastern Time (US and Canada) Oct 13, 2023 10:00 AM Oct 18, 2023 12:00 PM Oct 20, 2023 10:00 AM Oct 25, 2023 12:00 PM Oct 27, 2023 10:00 AM Nov 1, 2023 12:00 PM Nov 3, 2023 10:00 AM Nov 8, 2023 12:00 PM Nov 10, 2023 10:00 AM Nov 15, 2023 12:00 PM Nov 17, 2023 10:00 AM Nov 22, 2023 12:00 PM Nov 24, 2023 10:00 AM Nov 29, 2023 12:00 PM Dec 1, 2023 10:00 AM Dec 6, 2023 12:00 PM Dec 8, 2023 10:00 AM Dec 13, 2023 12:00 PM Dec 15, 2023 10:00 AM Dec 20, 2023 12:00 PM Dec 22, 2023 10:00 AM Dec 27, 2023 12:00 PM Dec 29, 2023 10:00 AM Jan 3, 2024 12:00 PM Jan 5, 2024 10:00 AM Jan 10, 2024 12:00 PM Jan 12, 2024 10:00 AM Jan 17, 2024 12:00 PM Jan 19, 2024 10:00 AM Jan 24, 2024 12:00 PM Jan 26, 2024 10:00 AM Jan 31, 2024 12:00 PM Feb 2, 2024 10:00 AM Feb 7, 2024 12:00 PM Feb 9, 2024 10:00 AM Feb 14, 2024 12:00 PM Feb 16, 2024 10:00 AM Feb 21, 2024 12:00 PM Feb 23, 2024 10:00 AM Feb 28, 2024 12:00 PM Mar 1, 2024 10:00 AMPlease download and import the following iCalendar (.ics) files to your calendar system.Weekly: https://us06web.zoom.us/meeting/tZIscu-sqj0rGd0oQTNczfc_nIF1c3hbefcB/ics?ic… Zoom Meetinghttps://us06web.zoom.us/j/86156446139?pwd=NVZJcVFOZmc3a1NWS0J6SURmc1VKUT09Meeting ID: 861 5644 6139Passcode: 808675---One tap mobile+13052241968,,86156446139#,,,,*808675# US+13092053325,,86156446139#,,,,*808675# US---Dial by your location• +1 305 224 1968 US• +1 309 205 3325 US• +1 312 626 6799 US (Chicago)• +1 646 558 8656 US (New York)• +1 646 931 3860 US• +1 301 715 8592 US (Washington DC)• +1 564 217 2000 US• +1 669 444 9171 US• +1 689 278 1000 US• +1 719 359 4580 US• +1 720 707 2699 US (Denver)• +1 253 205 0468 US• +1 253 215 8782 US (Tacoma)• +1 346 248 7799 US (Houston)• +1 360 209 5623 US• +1 386 347 5053 US• +1 507 473 4847 US• +353 1 536 9320 Ireland• +353 1 653 3895 Ireland• +353 1 653 3897 Ireland• +353 1 653 3898 Ireland• +353 6 163 9031 Ireland• +353 1 240 8941 Ireland• +39 021 241 28 823 Italy• +39 069 480 6488 Italy• +39 020 066 7245 Italy• +1 780 666 0144 Canada• +1 204 272 7920 Canada• +1 438 809 7799 Canada• +1 587 328 1099 Canada• +1 647 374 4685 Canada• +1 647 558 0588 Canada• +1 778 907 2071 Canada• +61 3 7018 2005 Australia• +61 7 3185 3730 Australia• +61 8 6119 3900 Australia• +61 8 7150 1149 Australia• +61 2 8015 6011 Australia• +43 12 535 501 Austria• +43 12 535 502 Austria• +43 670 309 0165 Austria• +43 72 011 5988 Austria• +43 120 609 3072 Austria• +44 330 088 5830 United Kingdom• +44 131 460 1196 United Kingdom• +44 203 481 5237 United Kingdom• +44 203 481 5240 United Kingdom• +44 203 901 7895 United Kingdom• +44 208 080 6591 United Kingdom• +44 208 080 6592 United KingdomMeeting ID: 861 5644 6139Passcode: 808675Find your local number: https://us06web.zoom.us/u/khIBbnAOb

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Deck for tomorrow
by maxine most 20 Nov '24

20 Nov '24

Attached and uploaded to the wiki Thanks to everyone who contributed. I took some editing privileges Still some GAPS * Slide 2 – Executive Summary - Who wants to write this? * Slide 11 Threat and Benefits – it would be great for some folks to contribute here * Slide 14 Real World Incident - II believe we are missing some of the references from the Wiki for * Slide 32 Findings and Recommendations - Did not receive many recommendations * Appendix A – Glossary Do we just link to existing Glossaries? * Appendix E- Technical References Should this be vendor presentations uploaded? Other stuff?? Talk tomorrow FYI I have a hard stop at 10:45 MT C. Maxine Most Principal, Acuity Market Intelligence +1 720 530 5836 640 W. Linden St, Louisville, CO 80027, USA www.acuitymi.com [signature_1295116261]<https://www.linkedin.com/in/maxinemost/> [A close up of a logo Description automatically generated] <https://twitter.com/cmaxmost> [signature_2194984247]

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Wednesday Kantara IDV Meeting
by Jay Meier 19 Nov '24

19 Nov '24

Hello Everybody. I hope you are all well. We will have our regular Wednesday AI-IDV Deepfake meeting at the regularly scheduled time. I believe we’ve made a lot of progress on Max’s PPTX reference document. Max? Will you please send out the latest draft before Wednesday? Thank you. On Wednesday, we will discuss and delegate remaining tasks. Wednesday: Join The Zoom Meeting <https://us06web.zoom.us/j/86156446139?pwd=NVZJcVFOZmc3a1NWS0J6SURmc1VKUT09> Meeting ID: 861 5644 6139 Passcode: 808675 Meeting coordinates TIMES: 12:00PM Eastern Time on Wednesdays Add the group calendar to your personal calendar. <https://calendar.google.com/calendar/ical/c_fd984e780e396aa17f933c5bf938fb4…> (meeting is pinned to Eastern Time for Daylight Saving Time shifts - use the Time zone converter <https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html?iso=20230831T160000&p…> tool to convert to other time zones) Thank you! Jay Meier Senior Vice President - North American Operations jay(a)facetec.com | 612-978-3687 www.FaceTec.com <http://www.facetec.com/> | www.Liveness.com <http://www.liveness.com/> | www.SpoofBounty.com <http://www.spoofbounty.com/> Confidentiality Notice: This message is intended only for the use of the Addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. Please erase all copies of the message and its attachments.

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Content deadline remider - COB today
by maxine most 18 Nov '24

18 Nov '24

Thanks to those who have provided the promised content for our baseline information deck. For those that have not yet done so, please have your contributions to me by COB today, Thanks Maxine C. Maxine Most Principal, Acuity Market Intelligence +1 720 530 5836 640 W. Linden St, Louisville, CO 80027, USA www.acuitymi.com [signature_1900517453]<https://www.linkedin.com/in/maxinemost/> [A close up of a logo Description automatically generated] <https://twitter.com/cmaxmost> [signature_1517606030]

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Process Diagram Update
by maxine most 16 Nov '24

16 Nov '24

I spent some time chatting with Daniel B., who offered some excellent insight and suggestions. Attached is what I came up with after our discussion. The challenge is finding the correct conceptualization level without going too far down the technical rabbit hole. This deck includes the most recent version of the original model (slide 5,6) and two versions of the same diagram, each laid out slightly differently. We are trying to minimize crossing lines because that tends to confuse people. C. Maxine Most Principal, Acuity Market Intelligence +1 720 530 5836 640 W. Linden St, Louisville, CO 80027, USA www.acuitymi.com [signature_1774225521]<https://www.linkedin.com/in/maxinemost/> [A close up of a logo Description automatically generated] <https://twitter.com/cmaxmost> [signature_4118937611]

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Update on Workgroup Output - Please Contribute
by maxine most 13 Nov '24

13 Nov '24

Thanks for everyone’s contributions to the Kantara Deepfakes group. Now that the fall conference season has mostly subsided, we are finalizing our group's output. This is your chance to help shape that output. You can find the current content deck here - https://kantara.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/DGDF/pages/744030213/OUTPUTS+of+t… Please keep in mind that this is a CONTAINER ONLY to organize the information we have developed on the Wiki so that it can be easily consumed, used, and referenced. The idea is that individuals can, and are encouraged to, use this to create their own material for presentation, education, marketing, etc., At today’s meeting, we assigned the following tasks to fill in gaps and finalize content based on the PowerPoint deck: * Slide 11 Benefits and Threats of Deepfakes – EVERYONE, what are we missing? Is positioning, correct? * Slide 14: Real World Incidents - Mike Engle * Slides 19 & 45: Regulatory Environment & Appendix C - Jay Meier * Slide 20 & 46 Standards and Appendix D – Oleg Kovpak * Slide 21: Audience - Yuliya Gorbunova * Slides 24, 27, 30: Process Diagrams – Maxine Most * Slides 25 & 26: RIDV Process Definitions - Andrew Hughes * Slides 28 & 29: RIDV Atack Vectors - Jay Meier * Slides 31& 32: RIDV Countermeasures - Jay Meier * Slide 34: Findings and Recommendations – EVERYONE SUBMIT ONE RECOMMENDATION based on your interest in what you would like to see come out of this group. EMAIL TO MAX If you’d like to contribute: 1. Reach out to the individual responsible for content based on the list above (emails CC’d), 2. Take on one of the following outstanding content gaps which requires taking what’s on the Wiki and making a list with links * Slide 36; Appendix A Glossary * Slide 45: Appendix E: Technical References 1. Provide Additional content - suggestions, feedback, etc To do so, please - DOWNLOAD the PowerPoint file - Make changes to existing slides - Delete the rest of the slides - Return only the updated slides to me ( as we have so many contributors, a shared document is ineffective) PLEASE SUBMIT ALL CONTENT BY COB MONDAY NOV 18 to me. Cheers, C. Maxine Most Principal, Acuity Market Intelligence +1 720 530 5836 640 W. Linden St, Louisville, CO 80027, USA www.acuitymi.com [signature_2012991169]<https://www.linkedin.com/in/maxinemost/> [A close up of a logo Description automatically generated] <https://twitter.com/cmaxmost> [signature_3906893223]

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Re: Workgroup PowerPoint Deck
by maxine most 13 Nov '24

13 Nov '24

Thanks, Mike At this point, I am primarily concerned with content. I used Kantara’s PP layout as a starting point. As Andrew has said, the whole idea is to make this available to anyone and everyone to do with it what they will. (-: C. Maxine Most Principal, Acuity Market Intelligence +1 720 530 5836 640 W. Linden St, Louisville, CO 80027, USA www.acuitymi.com [signature_3027899790]<https://www.linkedin.com/in/maxinemost/> [A close up of a logo Description automatically generated] <https://twitter.com/cmaxmost> [signature_1069531097] From: Michael Engle <michael(a)1kosmos.com> Date: Tuesday, November 12, 2024 at 4:09 PM To: maxine most <cmaxmost(a)acuity-mi.com> Cc: dg-deepfakesidv(a)kantarainitiative.org <dg-deepfakesidv(a)kantarainitiative.org> Subject: Re: [DG-DeepfakesIDV] Workgroup PowerPoint Deck Maxine, I took a shot at redoing the first 10 slides to see what you all thought. I could do them all pretty quickly and update the gaps. Yes I used some AI on this 😄 I can't make it on Wednesday but can work asynchronously to help crank this out. The PPT theme needs to be cleaned up - again this is just an example of how we could clean it up. Mike Michael Engle Co-Founder, Head of Strategy | 1Kosmos<http://www.1kosmos.com/> ________________________________ P: +1 (732) 820-0096 E: michael(a)1kosmos.com<mailto:michael@1kosmos.com> Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/englemichael/ On Tue, Nov 12, 2024 at 12:33 AM, maxine most <cmaxmost(a)acuity-mi.com<mailto:cmaxmost@acuity-mi.com>> wrote: Hi Everyone, I did my best to integrate the information/content from Jay’s doc and highlight missing content. Some of which I believe exist within Wiki. If anyone feels like taking any of this on before Wednesday’s meeting – please feel free to edit and send it back to me. Alternativity, feel free to send me content in Word or Google docs or PP, etc. and I can integrate it. I have also attached a file from Daniel B. with some notes on the process diagram, which I hope we can discuss on Wednesday. C. Maxine Most Principal, Acuity Market Intelligence +1 720 530 5836 640 W. Linden St, Louisville, CO 80027, USA www.acuitymi.com<http://www.acuitymi.com/> [cid:image001.png@01DB3487.C1D2F960]<https://www.linkedin.com/in/maxinemost/> [cid:image002.png@01DB3487.C1D2F960] <https://twitter.com/cmaxmost> [cid:image003.png@01DB3487.C1D2F960]

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Re: Workgroup PowerPoint Deck
by Michael Engle 13 Nov '24

13 Nov '24

Resending - 8MB PPT was too big for our mailing list. Here is a PDF version. Also attaching a different layout for the .DOC I played around with. Maxine, I took a shot at redoing the first 10 slides to see what you all thought. I could do them all pretty quickly and update the gaps. Yes I used some AI on this 😄 I can't make it on Wednesday but can work asynchronously to help crank this out. The PPT theme needs to be cleaned up - again this is just an example of how we could clean it up. Mike Michael Engle Co-Founder, Head of Strategy | 1Kosmos<http://www.1kosmos.com/> ________________________________ P: +1 (732) 820-0096 E: michael(a)1kosmos.com<mailto:michael@1kosmos.com> Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/englemichael/ On Tue, Nov 12, 2024 at 6:08 PM, Michael Engle <michael(a)1kosmos.com<mailto:michael@1kosmos.com>> wrote: Maxine, I took a shot at redoing the first 10 slides to see what you all thought. I could do them all pretty quickly and update the gaps. Yes I used some AI on this 😄 I can't make it on Wednesday but can work asynchronously to help crank this out. The PPT theme needs to be cleaned up - again this is just an example of how we could clean it up. Mike Michael Engle Co-Founder, Head of Strategy | 1Kosmos<http://www.1kosmos.com/> ________________________________ P: +1 (732) 820-0096 E: michael(a)1kosmos.com<mailto:michael@1kosmos.com> Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/englemichael/ On Tue, Nov 12, 2024 at 12:33 AM, maxine most <cmaxmost(a)acuity-mi.com<mailto:cmaxmost@acuity-mi.com>> wrote: Hi Everyone, I did my best to integrate the information/content from Jay’s doc and highlight missing content. Some of which I believe exist within Wiki. If anyone feels like taking any of this on before Wednesday’s meeting – please feel free to edit and send it back to me. Alternativity, feel free to send me content in Word or Google docs or PP, etc. and I can integrate it. I have also attached a file from Daniel B. with some notes on the process diagram, which I hope we can discuss on Wednesday. C. Maxine Most Principal, Acuity Market Intelligence +1 720 530 5836 640 W. Linden St, Louisville, CO 80027, USA www.acuitymi.com<http://www.acuitymi.com/> [cid:image001.png@01DB3487.C1D2F960]<https://www.linkedin.com/in/maxinemost/> [cid:image002.png@01DB3487.C1D2F960] <https://twitter.com/cmaxmost> [cid:image003.png@01DB3487.C1D2F960]

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Workgroup PowerPoint Deck
by maxine most 12 Nov '24

12 Nov '24

Hi Everyone, I did my best to integrate the information/content from Jay’s doc and highlight missing content. Some of which I believe exist within Wiki. If anyone feels like taking any of this on before Wednesday’s meeting – please feel free to edit and send it back to me. Alternativity, feel free to send me content in Word or Google docs or PP, etc. and I can integrate it. I have also attached a file from Daniel B. with some notes on the process diagram, which I hope we can discuss on Wednesday. C. Maxine Most Principal, Acuity Market Intelligence +1 720 530 5836 640 W. Linden St, Louisville, CO 80027, USA www.acuitymi.com [signature_4143388482]<https://www.linkedin.com/in/maxinemost/> [A close up of a logo Description automatically generated] <https://twitter.com/cmaxmost> [signature_2277349620]

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Article reference pointing to Deepfakes DG!
by Andrew Hughes 12 Nov '24

12 Nov '24

Thank you Joey! Biometric update newsletter picked up your blog post and points to our Deepfakes DG! This is a perfect example of how to leverage our work done in the Kantara group - adds weight to your posts! andrew. Biometric update that points to Kantara's Deepfake threats to IDV group: https://www.biometricupdate.com/202411/deepfake-detectives-lay-out-types-of… Joey's blog: https://www.paravision.ai/news/deepfake-threats-and-attack-vectors-in-remot… *Andrew Hughes *CISM mobile/signal +1 250.888.9474 AndrewHughes3000(a)gmail.com *https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrew-hughes-682058a <https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrew-hughes-682058a>*

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Wednesday IDV Meeting Agenda
by Jay Meier 11 Nov '24

11 Nov '24

Afternoon Folks! I hope all of you are well. Max and I have been working on drafts of a couple documents, that hopefully will become our final deliverables. This needs to be soon! Plan on reviewing these incomplete draft documents on Wednesday. Further, we will ask for volunteers to help with these two documents on Wednesday. We can talk about what exactly we need, but I imagine we will need some writing, the addition of representative images (you know…beautiful people smiling etc. LOL), and finish editing. What else??. The goal is to wrap all this up by Thanksgiving…which is effectively month-end. Wednesday: Join The Zoom Meeting <https://us06web.zoom.us/j/86156446139?pwd=NVZJcVFOZmc3a1NWS0J6SURmc1VKUT09> Meeting ID: 861 5644 6139 Passcode: 808675 Meeting coordinates TIMES: 12:00PM Eastern Time on Wednesdays Add the group calendar to your personal calendar. <https://calendar.google.com/calendar/ical/c_fd984e780e396aa17f933c5bf938fb4…> (meeting is pinned to Eastern Time for Daylight Saving Time shifts - use the Time zone converter <https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html?iso=20230831T160000&p…> tool to convert to other time zones) Thanks so much. Jay Jay Meier Senior Vice President - North American Operations jay(a)facetec.com | 612-978-3687 www.FaceTec.com <http://www.facetec.com/> | www.Liveness.com <http://www.liveness.com/> | www.SpoofBounty.com <http://www.spoofbounty.com/> Confidentiality Notice: This message is intended only for the use of the Addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. Please erase all copies of the message and its attachments.

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Process diagram
by maxine most 07 Nov '24

07 Nov '24

This is the output from today's group discussion. For those who attended, please confirm that I have accurately captured what we discussed. Anyone interested in duplicating Slide 2 and identifying countermeasures, have at it. It does not need to be pretty. I can figure that out later. C. Maxine Most Principal, Acuity Market Intelligence +1 720 530 5836 640 W. Linden St, Louisville, CO 80027, USA www.acuitymi.com [signature_794313856]<https://www.linkedin.com/in/maxinemost/> [A close up of a logo Description automatically generated] <https://twitter.com/cmaxmost> [signature_1821560399]

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Practical Guide to Deepfakes
by Joey Pritikin 06 Nov '24

06 Nov '24

Hi everyone, I'd mentioned a while back that we (Paravision) were working on a practical guide to deepfakes that included a conceptual framework for describing deepfakes vs. adjacencies like synthetic imagery and morphs. We published this recently, but I neglected to pass it along to this distribution. If you are interested, you can check it out here: https://www.paravision.ai/resource/a-practical-guide-to-deepfake-detection/ In particular, you might find the graphic and table on pages 7-8 to be of interest. We've also pulled these out as separate images you can see in this slideshow: https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:7257016902437212160/ Feel free to reach out if you have any questions or thoughts! My best, Joey -- Joey Pritikin Chief Product Officer +1 650 799 4611 joey(a)paravision.ai

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11/6 Agenda and wrap up
by Jay Meier 04 Nov '24

04 Nov '24

Folks, we getting long in the tooth and its my fault. Regardless, we need to wrap this discussion group up. Please consider the attached outline, that Max generously produced. The plan is to plug the previously contributed summaries into this outline, where they fit, adjust for orphaned summaries and write up a two page Executive Summary that describes what we have determined about deepfakes, including what issues/work remains to be discussed. We will wrap all this up by Thanks Giving. Wednesday: Join The Zoom Meeting <https://us06web.zoom.us/j/86156446139?pwd=NVZJcVFOZmc3a1NWS0J6SURmc1VKUT09> Meeting ID: 861 5644 6139 Passcode: 808675 Meeting coordinates TIMES: 12:00PM Eastern Time on Wednesdays Add the group calendar to your personal calendar. <https://calendar.google.com/calendar/ical/c_fd984e780e396aa17f933c5bf938fb4…> (meeting is pinned to Eastern Time for Daylight Saving Time shifts - use the Time zone converter <https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html?iso=20230831T160000&p…> tool to convert to other time zones) Jay Meier Senior Vice President - North American Operations jay(a)facetec.com | 612-978-3687 www.FaceTec.com <http://www.facetec.com/> | www.Liveness.com <http://www.liveness.com/> | www.SpoofBounty.com <http://www.spoofbounty.com/> Confidentiality Notice: This message is intended only for the use of the Addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. Please erase all copies of the message and its attachments.

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