Just to be clear. non-Liveness/Biometric solution would be like KBA, 2FA/MFA, Security Tokens, SMS/Email verification, certificate/public keys, and captcha. If so, I just saw a great demo on a solution that handles something similar but it’s after-the event. Had me thinking…before the deepfake is made you do a facial biometric type captcha * then when it’s done you go and make your deepfake. * Make the deepfake * Move to mobile authentication * authenticate on the phone with SMS > and the back of your drivers license. They have hooks into all the DMVs, and wireless carriers. Only way to beat it would be ..I think * Steal a real license id. * Then set up a cell phone in the name of who you’re trying to deepfake * Physically be at the address of the person you’re trying to deepfake Michael F. Roche FintechnologyGroup.com <mailto:Michael.f@fintechnologygroup.com> Michael.f@fintechnologygroup.com Cell: (216)346-9066 ***Proprietary and Confidential From: maxine most <cmaxmost@acuity-mi.com> Sent: Friday, April 5, 2024 3:59 PM To: Jay Meier <jay@facetec.com> Cc: Olsen, Chris D. <Chris.D.Olsen@disney.com>; Andrew Hughes <andrewhughes3000@gmail.com>; Prvu, Denny (He/Him/His) <denny.prvu@rbc.com>; dg-deepfakesidv@kantarainitiative.org Subject: [DG-DeepfakesIDV] Re: How to detect AI deepfakes - The Washington Post I I'm not opposed to expanding to include this, but do we have someone who's willing to do the research and provide the content? C. Maxine Most Principal, Acuity Market Intelligence www.acuitymi.com <http://www.acuitymi.com> +1 720 530 5836 On Apr 5, 2024, at 12:57 PM, Jay Meier <jay@facetec.com <mailto:jay@facetec.com> > wrote: I have a question about this content…. I’ve asked numerous time, if we should consider non-Liveness/Biometric solutions to the AI-DeepFake problem. This article is a good example of alternative solutions that we “could” include/address in our work. Thoughts?? J Jay Meier Senior Vice President - North American Operations jay@facetec.com <mailto:jay@facetec.com> | 612-978-3687 www.FaceTec.com <http://www.FaceTec.com> | www.Liveness.com <http://www.Liveness.com> | www.SpoofBounty.com <http://www.SpoofBounty.com> Confidentiality Notice: This message is intended only for the use of the Addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. Please erase all copies of the message and its attachments. On Apr 5, 2024, at 1:53 PM, Olsen, Chris D. <Chris.D.Olsen@disney.com <mailto:Chris.D.Olsen@disney.com> > wrote: Thanks for sharing, Maxine! The author (Gerrit De Vynck) is not conveying much more than the daily news hype in my opinion. There are a few nuggets in there but the article focuses on how difficult the issue is to solve primarily around image originality. What does this team wish to help solve? One of my concerns is how deep fakes will affect identity proofing and vetting. 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