I think your example is makes it more complicated from what I’ve seen. Before we use to do voice auth for call centres and things, but as the financial space is changing, people are now conducting transactions as avatars and digital twins. Not saying an avatar is an deep fake, but think of that meta-verse that SouthWest bank has built. Huge issue with tying my avatar in my Oculus headset to Denny so I can buy a gift card in the meta verse. I think back to Jim’s point, “what is an identity” may have to be redefined. Denny From: heather vescent <puissant@heathervescent.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2023 10:01 AM To: jim pasquale <jimpasquale@gmail.com> Cc: dg-deepfakesidv@kantarainitiative.org Subject: [DG-DeepfakesIDV] Re: Dee[fake and SSI [External]/[Externe]<https://connect.fg.rbc.com/community/techhub/external-email-indicator> Jim, It's not so complicated. I know Darrell O'Donnell and some Canadian banks were doing something like this for call centers in the early SSI days (like 4+ years ago). Seems doable with a wallet that holds VCs and interfaces with existing communications methods. Imagine if Signal App added a VC wallet. It's not unlike verifying your identity on LinkedIn. I'd have to dig in more than the 5 minutes I spent this morning to vet the level of reality. -Heather On Tue, Nov 21, 2023 at 7:48 AM jim pasquale <jimpasquale@gmail.com<mailto:jimpasquale@gmail.com>> wrote: FYI: Sounds to good to be completely true. [cid:image001.jpg@01DA1C65.4599C170] Using Self-Sovereign Identity to Mitigate AI Deepfake Fraud<https://youtu.be/Z5YkVll6P-8?si=Grp7TKos1qTgEXlK> youtu.be<https://youtu.be/Z5YkVll6P-8?si=Grp7TKos1qTgEXlK> _______________________________________________ A Community Group mailing list of KantaraInitiative.org DG-DeepfakesIDV mailing list -- dg-deepfakesidv@kantarainitiative.org<mailto:dg-deepfakesidv@kantarainitiative.org> To unsubscribe send an email to staff@kantarainitiative.org<mailto:staff@kantarainitiative.org> List archives -- https://mailman.kantarainitiative.org/hyperkitty/list/dg-deepfakesidv@kantar... ______ Group wiki -- https://kantara.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/DG-DeepfakesIDV -- Heather Vescent<http://www.heathervescent.com/> President, The Purple Tornado, Inc<https://thepurpletornado.com/> ~ The Future in Present Tense ~ Columnist, Biometric Update<https://www.biometricupdate.com/?posttype=all&s=heather%20vescent> Author, The Secret of Spies<https://amzn.to/2GfJpXH> | The Cyber Attack Survival Manual<https://www.amazon.com/Cyber-Attack-Survival-Manual-Apocalypse/dp/1681886545/> | A Comprehensive Guide to Self Sovereign Identity<https://www.amazon.com/Comprehensive-Guide-Self-Sovereign-Identity-ebook/dp/B07Q3TXLDP/> @heathervescent<https://twitter.com/heathervescent> | Film Futures<https://vimeo.com/heathervescent> | Medium<https://medium.com/@heathervescent/> | LinkedIn<https://www.linkedin.com/in/heathervescent/> | Future of Security Updates<https://app.convertkit.com/landing_pages/325779/> _______________________________________________________________________ If you received this email in error, please advise the sender (by return email or otherwise) immediately. You have consented to receive the attached electronically at the above-noted email address; please retain a copy of this confirmation for future reference. Si vous recevez ce courriel par erreur, veuillez en aviser l'expéditeur immédiatement, par retour de courriel ou par un autre moyen. Vous avez accepté de recevoir le(s) document(s) ci-joint(s) par voie électronique à l'adresse courriel indiquée ci-dessus; veuillez conserver une copie de cette confirmation pour les fins de reference future.