Hi Max, Sorry I’ve been unavailable to review this until today – unfortunately for me the time zone is challenging on a Wednesday too. I did submit some material on data provenance to Andrew H a couple of weeks ago. I see that you have a section on RIDV with diagrams (slides 23-33) that covers (in much greater detail!) what I’d submitted on vulnerability points and attack modes. We don’t mention “provenance” except indirectly on Slide 42 in the phrase “Using devices and data that are provably untampered”, without saying how. Much of the material on mitigation talks about technological methods for detecting deepfakes and other exploits that are yet to be developed in practice, or (to my knowledge) are in their infancy – would welcome some references on this if available. The subject of data provenance is equally tricky as the horse bolted before the stable door was closed, as they say. That said, I’ve reviewed the slides as available on the Kantara Atlassian link. I should be Ok to get on the call tomorrow, and if there are gaps I can help fill, let me know. There’s a lot of good material in there – it will be good to get clarity on the intended audience and their expected level of expertise. Is it an aspiration that the Kantara group and its membership should be a resource available to provide practical solutions to the “how to mitigate deepfakes” issues? This isn’t explicitly stated in the remit for the report (Slide 1) but could be inferred. Best regards, Martin From: maxine most <cmaxmost@acuity-mi.com> Sent: 18 November 2024 21:59 To: Jay Meier <jay@facetec.com>; dg-deepfakesidv@kantarainitiative.org Subject: [DG-DeepfakesIDV] Re: Wednesday Kantara IDV Meeting I have received some input. I will see what else I get today and then share with everyone tomorrow with remaining gaps C. Maxine Most Principal, Acuity Market Intelligence +1 720 530 5836 640 W. Linden St, Louisville, CO 80027, USA www.acuitymi.com <http://www.acuitymi.com> <https://www.linkedin.com/in/maxinemost/> <https://twitter.com/cmaxmost> From: Jay Meier <jay@facetec.com <mailto:jay@facetec.com> > Date: Monday, November 18, 2024 at 2:55 PM To: dg-deepfakesidv@kantarainitiative.org <mailto:dg-deepfakesidv@kantarainitiative.org> <dg-deepfakesidv@kantarainitiative.org <mailto:dg-deepfakesidv@kantarainitiative.org> > Subject: [DG-DeepfakesIDV] Wednesday Kantara IDV Meeting Hello Everybody. I hope you are all well. We will have our regular Wednesday AI-IDV Deepfake meeting at the regularly scheduled time. I believe we’ve made a lot of progress on Max’s PPTX reference document. Max? Will you please send out the latest draft before Wednesday? Thank you. On Wednesday, we will discuss and delegate remaining tasks. Wednesday: <https://us06web.zoom.us/j/86156446139?pwd=NVZJcVFOZmc3a1NWS0J6SURmc1VKUT09> Join The Zoom Meeting Meeting ID: 861 5644 6139 Passcode: 808675 _____ Meeting coordinates TIMES: 12:00PM Eastern Time on Wednesdays <https://calendar.google.com/calendar/ical/c_fd984e780e396aa17f933c5bf938fb4157a517d08d623255d92ff1f7229d03d2%40group.calendar.google.com/public/basic.ics> Add the group calendar to your personal calendar. (meeting is pinned to Eastern Time for Daylight Saving Time shifts - use the <https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html?iso=20230831T160000&p1=179&p2=256&p3=136&p4=37&p5=248&p6=240&p7=264&p8=1440> Time zone converter tool to convert to other time zones) Thank you! Jay Meier Senior Vice President - North American Operations jay@facetec.com <mailto:jay@facetec.com> | 612-978-3687 www.FaceTec.com <http://www.FaceTec.com> | www.Liveness.com <http://www.Liveness.com> | www.SpoofBounty.com <http://www.SpoofBounty.com> Confidentiality Notice: This message is intended only for the use of the Addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. Please erase all copies of the message and its attachments.