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IDoT telecon 2013-12-17
by Ingo.Friese＠telekom.de 17 Dec '13

17 Dec '13

Dear All, I hope you are all doing well. I'd like to remind you that our next IDoT-call is coming up today. I'm looking forward to talking to you! Best regards, Ingo Date and Time * Tuesday, December 17, at 9am PT (time chart)<http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=IDoT+Conf+Call&iso…> * Voice: Skype: +99051000000481 or US +1-805-309-2350 / Alternate Toll +1 (714) 551-9842 (international dial-in lines<http://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/x/KYC_/>), room code 613-2898# * (Turbobridge call options<https://www.turbobridge.com/join.html>) Agenda * Roll call * Action item review * New hour/date for our bi-weekly call · IDoT work items (I'd like to discuss this points with you) * IDoT use-case collection o Concept paper - sub topics * AOB Kind regards Ingo Friese Deutsche Telekom AG T-Labs (Research & Innovation) Dipl.-Ing. Ingo Friese Winterfeldtstr. 21, 10781 Berlin +4930835358148 (Phone) +49391580216849 (Fax) E-Mail: ingo.friese(a)telekom.de<mailto:ingo.friese@telekom.de> www.telekom.com<http://www.telekom.com/> Life is for sharing. DEUTSCHE TELEKOM AG Supervisory Board: Prof. Dr. Ulrich Lehner (Chairman) Board of Management: René Obermann (Chairman), Reinhard Clemens, Niek Jan van Damme, Timotheus Höttges, Dr. Thomas Kremer, Claudia Nemat, Prof. Dr. Marion Schick Commercial register: Amtsgericht Bonn HRB 6794 Registered office: Bonn Big changes start small - conserve resources by not printing every e-mail.

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Use case "harvester communicates with truck"
by Ingo.Friese＠telekom.de 17 Dec '13

17 Dec '13

Dear all, I added another use-case for our discussion. I think it not to futuristic and shows "white spots" and open issues in the IDoT discussion. http://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=670108… best regards Ingo Scenario "renting a combine harvester" Use case "harvester communicates with truck" Combine harvesters are expensive machines. So renting a harvester or using a harvester service (harvester plus driver) is a preferred choice for many farmers around the world. A campaign (e.g. harvesting a field) needs different kind of machines. Harvesters doing the work and Trucks transport the crop. Modern combine harvesters are able to communicate to the trucks. When they are nearly full the truck can pass by and take over the current crop and the harvester machine can go on without the need to stop and unload the crop. The use-case in detail The harvester wants to communicate with the truck and vice versa as well as with other machines. In order to keep the example simple, let's assume that harvester and truck have 3G/LTE connection and internet access. Telco's use usually IP-address pools. That's why harvester and truck get most likely a new IP-address with every login. As a consequence IP-address is no stabile identifier for harvester and truck. But nevertheless both harvester and truck have a communication interface (discovery) and IP-level routing is available due to the 3G/LTE connection to the internet. Usually every the harvester manufacturer has solution to communicate between these machines. But when the truck was built by another manufacturer it is not clear what protocol, what kind of ID and what method is used to find the machine. The challenge Bob is the driver of the harvester. Nearly every morning he is on another field hand has to connect to other machines. Bob needs an easy and standardized way to say to the truck drivers: "you can find my machine here!", "You can see it in your radar app (showing all machines nearby), "just google it" or something else. Then this identifier has to be mapped to the current protocol and IP-address of the machine. Subsequently a message could be send to this machine. - Is there a standardized identifier? - Is there a name service for things (e.g. trucks and harvesters)? - How to facilitate authentication?

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allseeenaaliance
by Salvatore D'Agostino 16 Dec '13

16 Dec '13

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IDoT document "Concepts of identity in the interent of things
by Ingo.Friese＠telekom.de 12 Dec '13

12 Dec '13

Dear All, I hope you all are doing well and having a nice holiday season. As discussed in our conf-call last week, I uploaded a "very-very early draft of our concept paper "Concepts of identity in the Internet oft Things". We'd like to develop this paper step by step to a use-full document helping users, architects, engineers, managers and decision makers to understand identity in the context of the IoT. I'd like to encourage you to have a look at the paper. Add your comments or take care of a topic that you are interested in. None of the current paragraphs is ready. It is rather more a small TOC. It is currently more or less 1 page, but I'm sure it will grow with your help. If you have ideas, suggestions, questions please let me know. https://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/download/attachments/67010606/Conc… Thank you in advance! Best regards, Ingo

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IDoT DG minutes 2013-12-03
by Ingo.Friese＠telekom.de 12 Dec '13

12 Dec '13

Dear All, Minutes of the call are up on the wiki http://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/IDoT/IDoT+telecon+2013-12-03 Many greetings, Ingo

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IDoT telecon 2013-12-03
by Ingo.Friese＠telekom.de 03 Dec '13

03 Dec '13

Dear All, I hope you are all doing well. I'd like to remind you that our next IDoT-call is coming up today. I'm looking forward to talking to you! Best regards, Ingo Date and Time * Tuesday, December 03, at 9am PT (time chart)<http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=IDoT+Conf+Call&iso…> * Voice: Skype: +99051000000481 or US +1-805-309-2350 / Alternate Toll +1 (714) 551-9842 (international dial-in lines<http://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/x/KYC_/>), room code 613-2898# * (Turbobridge call options<https://www.turbobridge.com/join.html>) Agenda * Roll call * Action item review * New hour/date for our bi-weekly call · IDoT work items (I'd like to discuss this points with you) * IDoT use-case collection o Filling in the use-case table o Landscape paper o IDoT Paper (ownership, who owns the data in a thing, mapping&name-spaces...) * AOB Kind regards Ingo Friese Deutsche Telekom AG T-Labs (Research & Innovation) Dipl.-Ing. Ingo Friese Winterfeldtstr. 21, 10781 Berlin +4930835358148 (Phone) +49391580216849 (Fax) E-Mail: ingo.friese(a)telekom.de<mailto:ingo.friese@telekom.de> www.telekom.com<http://www.telekom.com/> Life is for sharing. DEUTSCHE TELEKOM AG Supervisory Board: Prof. Dr. Ulrich Lehner (Chairman) Board of Management: René Obermann (Chairman), Reinhard Clemens, Niek Jan van Damme, Timotheus Höttges, Dr. Thomas Kremer, Claudia Nemat, Prof. Dr. Marion Schick Commercial register: Amtsgericht Bonn HRB 6794 Registered office: Bonn Big changes start small - conserve resources by not printing every e-mail. _______________________________________________ DG-IDoT mailing list DG-IDoT(a)kantarainitiative.org<mailto:DG-IDoT@kantarainitiative.org> http://kantarainitiative.org/mailman/listinfo/dg-idot

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Re: [DG-IDoT] IDoT DG asks - Privacy and Public Policy WG
by Ingo.Friese＠telekom.de 29 Nov '13

29 Nov '13

Hi Andre, Thank you for have a look at the problem. Best Ingo From: Andre Boysen [mailto:amboysen@gmail.com] Sent: Montag, 25. November 2013 20:04 To: Friese, Ingo Subject: Re: [DG-IDoT] IDoT DG asks - Privacy and Public Policy WG The idea is right, but it will get lost in the details of the service the "owner" user signed up for. All of these devices are only useful as part of a service that provides summary and insight for what the device is doing. Invariably the data is the real goal of the device, not the device itself. Almost all of the IoT devices business models are constructed to sell you back the data from the device you have purchased. Nest, fitbit, your car, etc. Also built in to those agreements is a trade - you give up the data in a freemium trade for summary data back. Often there is an upsell to get more insightful information about your device - comparative to your own timeline or to other users of the service. In all cases, the value given to the user is very small compared to the value received by the service the user has agreed to join. This is due to the asymmetric nature of big data services - users have know idea what inferences can be drawn from the data or the monetary value to big data. On Nov 22, 2013, at 11:16 AM, Ingo.Friese(a)telekom.de<mailto:Ingo.Friese@telekom.de> wrote: Dear all, I'm Ingo Friese working with "Kantara Identity of things working group". In this area we got a privacy related question. I thought of asking you privacy experts for help, opinions or guidance. Here is the use-case: A thing (e.g. a car) produces data. Sometimes even privacy relevant data. (.e.g. a car could track where it was at what time). A first (logical) attempt would be: The owner of the thing (device, car) owns the data. But especially in automotive industry we have cases where manufacturer collect data and use them for statistics or additional services they offer to the user. They act as this data were their own. I know a manufacturer of Trucks and harvesters that sell data collected in sensors of the harvester to the farmer. This sounds to me at least a bit strange. Any thoughts? Many thanks in advance! Ingo _______________________________________________ DG-IDoT mailing list DG-IDoT(a)kantarainitiative.org<mailto:DG-IDoT@kantarainitiative.org> http://kantarainitiative.org/mailman/listinfo/dg-idot

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IDoT tasks / strcutur
by Ingo.Friese＠telekom.de 29 Nov '13

29 Nov '13

Hi, In our next conf-call I'd like to talk a bit about the structure of our work. In our charter we promised 3 deliverables: 1. Use-cases: The excel template is a good approach to me to classify the use-cases. I just try to fill in "Runaway dog use-case". I have the feeling that we identify important and pressing issues here. It would be good if you take your use case and fill out the template 2. Landscape document / state of the art: The IoT Landscape of IoT is really huge (GSC MSTF identified 143 standards dealing with IoT) I attached a mind-map as an first overview. Have a look and complete. That's an overview. We will have a closer look to dedicated topics (e.g. main standardization bodies one M2M, HGI, IETF etc.) 3. IEEE article I'd like to have a IDoT document that helps people to understand what is special with IdM in the IoT. Something like "Identity concepts in the IoT" We can start to collect first bullet points. E.g. we had the ownership discussion, Frank and I discussed about Object identifier mapping, names-spaces etc. This is something we can discuss in our next Telco on Tuesday. Best regards, Ingo

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Friendly reminder Doodle for "new scheduled Konf-Call"
by Ingo.Friese＠telekom.de 29 Nov '13

29 Nov '13

Hi, I'd like to encourage you to fill out the doodle poll. I'd like to find a good time for our IDoT confcall. http://doodle.com/uts4iazfae7mz664 Best Ingo From: dg-idot-bounces(a)kantarainitiative.org [mailto:dg-idot-bounces@kantarainitiative.org] On Behalf Of Friese, Ingo Sent: Montag, 18. November 2013 15:53 To: dg-idot(a)kantarainitiative.org Subject: [DG-IDoT] doodle poll for a new IDoT confcall time Hi all, This is the announced doodle poll. Please let me know when the best time for you is to take part for less than 1 hour call (every second week) If you just want to take part from time to time, put in your name and leave everything open. If you want to be in the call please fill in yes, maybe(yes) and no options. If you have any questions please let me know! http://doodle.com/uts4iazfae7mz664 Thank you! Best, Ingo

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internet of things business index
by Salvatore D'Agostino 25 Nov '13

25 Nov '13

http://www.economistinsights.com/analysis/internet-things-business-index#! Sal

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