Hello all, With respect to the initial question from Ingo, I think that the key is, as Jeff write it, the contract between the two parties. It's probably more or less the same case with smartphone. The difference is that most users don't read the "contract" when purchasing the phone. And they validate without reading them the T&C of all apps they install on that phone. And there is a lot of data collected by various sensors in the phone that are transmitted to the phone's manufacturer or the app editor. Do the T&C make those data the solely property of the manufacturer or editor? And just a thought to note: I wonder if an object can have an identity ONLY if it can communicate with others. If yes, then, I suppose that the owner of the data MUST be involved in such a communication, otherwise he can't be the owner. That doesn't help to answer Ingo's question, but that may be considered as a simple premise. No? Le 01/10/2013 17:33, j stollman a écrit :
Ingo, [...]
The argument for the manufacturer owning the data is that it is likely a stipulation in the sales contract for the device. The farmer has (unwittingly?) likely yielded his right to the data by agreeing to the terms of the contract. [...]
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