Hi Jeff and all,
I will be at IIW call to and try to moderate the call on behalf of Ingo.
Hear about you in 20 minutes.
Best Regards
Frank Mildner
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Von: Paul Madsen [mailto:pmadsen@pingidentity.com]
Gesendet: Sonntag, 20. Oktober 2013 18:35
An: j stollman; Mildner, Frank
Cc: Andrew Nash; dg-idot@kantarainitiative.org
Betreff: Re: [DG-IDoT] attempt to group our problem spaces in the IDoT
Hi Jeff, I'll be at IIW
paul
On 10/20/13 12:26 PM, j stollman wrote:
Disappointingly, I have been unable to attend the last several calls because of a work commitment. And this is likely to continue for me for another month.
But I have reserved next week to attend IIW. How many of you will be there? Perhaps we can have a few sessions on this at IIW and gather thoughts from a wider population.
Thank you.
Jeff
On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 6:57 AM,
From my point of view we need a common understanding of the below mentioned " group concept" in the identity of things field.
Another important issue is the pairing of things and pairing of things and user.
Looking forward on an interesting discussion next Thursday.
See you
Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Viele Grüße / Best Regards
Frank Mildner
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Vorstand: René Obermann (Vorsitzender),
Reinhard Clemens, Niek Jan van Damme, Timotheus Höttges,
Dr. Thomas Kremer, Claudia Nemat, Prof. Dr. Marion Schick
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Von: dg-idot-bounces@kantarainitiative.orgmailto:dg-idot-bounces@kantarainitiative.org [mailto:dg-idot-bounces@kantarainitiative.orgmailto:dg-idot-bounces@kantarainitiative.org] Im Auftrag von Paul Madsen
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 16. Oktober 2013 11:39
An: Andrew Nash
Cc: dg-idot@kantarainitiative.orgmailto:dg-idot@kantarainitiative.org
Betreff: Re: [DG-IDoT] attempt to group our problem spaces in the IDoT
hey Andrew, thanks for reading
below
On 10/16/13 1:19 AM, Andrew Nash wrote:
Paul,
I am missing the group concept in this graphic - why is electricity meter in the Group group? And why is that electricity meter is Itself while Nest "A User"
the meter is attached to the house - the data it collects represents the aggregated electricity use of those in the house, as opposed to an individual user. Of course, this can collapse ....
the distinction between the Nest and the meter is that the homeowner bought & installed the Nest - the electricity provider owns and manages the meter. While that provider may give the homeowner access to the data the meter collects, I'm sure the provider still feels that it owns that data
What seems to be missing in this graphic and the blog entries is the concept that both the Nest and the Electricity Mater are part of my house and I may prefer to think of them as part of a collection as opposed to individual items - or is that what the Group was trying to address
'group' refers to users, see above
I think grouping of things would be another axis. I can see it as important as a consent & management optimization (eg authorize all these lightbulbs I just screwed in ...)
paul
--Andrew
--Andrew
On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 8:23 AM, Paul Madsen