Re: [DG-IDoT] Notes from Friday call - ERM
Hi Scott, Last Friday you introduced some ideas regarding Entity Relationship Modelling the Identities of Things. Thank you very much – for your presentation. Ingo and me have the ERM issue in our mind for a long time. I think your ERM is a good starting point – as you show at slide 3 and 6 [cid:image002.png@01CFB654.A340BA30] A missing key indicator in the IoT ID landscape is the information in rhomb ! In an IoT example: a sensor – belongs, is owned, scales, ……- something I think we need rather filled/stuffed/intelligent links between objects, instead of poor SQL links . I would like to start a discussion in our group about mechanism whereby we can find an object based on the relationship. (rhomb in slide6) Have a nice day – see you Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Viele Grüße / Best Regards Frank Mildner DEUTSCHE TELEKOM AG T-Labs (Research & Innovation) Dipl.-Ing. Frank Mildner Deutsche-Telekom-Allee 7, 64295 Darmstadt +4961515834747 (Tel.) +496151899838 (Fax) E-Mail: frank.mildner@telekom.de www.telekom.com<http://www.telekom.com/> Erleben, was verbindet. DEUTSCHE TELEKOM AG Aufsichtsrat: Prof. Dr. Ulrich Lehner (Vorsitzender) Vorstand: Timotheus Höttges (Vorsitzender), Reinhard Clemens, Niek Jan van Damme, Thomas Dannenfeldt, Dr. Thomas Kremer, Claudia Nemat Handelsregister: Amtsgericht Bonn HRB 6794 Sitz der Gesellschaft: Bonn Grosse Veränderungen fangen klein an – Ressourcen schonen und nicht jede E-Mail drucken. Von: dg-idot-bounces@kantarainitiative.org [mailto:dg-idot-bounces@kantarainitiative.org] Im Auftrag von Scott Shorter Gesendet: Freitag, 8. August 2014 17:08 An: dg-idot@kantarainitiative.org Betreff: [DG-IDoT] Notes from today's call My quick action items: * Here's the link to join the Kantara SDO liaison subcommittee, to participate in the email list and access the review files on the wiki: http://signup.kantarainitiative.org/liaison-sub-committee/ * TSCP workshop: http://tscpworkshop.com/ I think we're participating in the "securing the supply chain" track My longer term action items: * Re-visit ITU-T's OID as an namespace model in light of XRI's capabilities * Review SCAP's Asset Identification standard (and Common Platform Enumeration (CPE), Common Vulnerability Enumeration (CVE)) as namespace models * Share Kantara's comments about identity proofing non-person entities from last year's comment process with the list. Whew. Have a good weekend! - Scott -- ============================================================== Scott Shorter, Principal Security Engineer Electrosoft – Fueling Customer Success Through Outstanding Value and Trust! Woman-Owned, Minority-Owned Small Business | ISO 9001 | CMMI Level 2 1893 Metro Center Drive; Ste 228; Reston, VA 20190 (703) 437-9451 x21<tel:%28703%29%C2%A0437-9451%20x21> (office); (240) 994-7793<tel:%28240%29%20994-7793> (cell) sshorter@electrosoft-inc.com<mailto:sshorter@electrosoft-inc.com> (Email); http://www.electrosoft-inc.com<http://www.electrosoft-inc.com/> (Web) ==============================================================
Hi , Few comments about Scott’s this Venn diagram: - I like it very much because it shows that Object IDM is not only an extension of user-IdM, it has to be addressed with new approaches - Currently there are three circles (device, person, organization). Are there more circles possible? I guess… but these three are a good starting point for the moment - To me these circles are rather bubbles (I don’t know how to draw this ;-)…because the connections e.g. btw. device and person might have different flavors My mobile phone (incl. its sensors) for example might be a personal device ( I bought it private) or maybe its my personal device but paid by my company infact the relationship btw. me and the personal device then is different - I think relationships play a central role in this discussion (see the NIST asset spec…Scott sent to the list) Best Ingo From: dg-idot-bounces@kantarainitiative.org [mailto:dg-idot-bounces@kantarainitiative.org] On Behalf Of Mildner, Frank Sent: Dienstag, 12. August 2014 17:41 To: sshorter@electrosoft-inc.com; dg-idot@kantarainitiative.org Subject: Re: [DG-IDoT] Notes from Friday call - ERM Hi Scott, Last Friday you introduced some ideas regarding Entity Relationship Modelling the Identities of Things. Thank you very much – for your presentation. Ingo and me have the ERM issue in our mind for a long time. I think your ERM is a good starting point – as you show at slide 3 and 6 [cid:image001.png@01CFB7A6.286D4E60] A missing key indicator in the IoT ID landscape is the information in rhomb ! In an IoT example: a sensor – belongs, is owned, scales, ……- something I think we need rather filled/stuffed/intelligent links between objects, instead of poor SQL links . I would like to start a discussion in our group about mechanism whereby we can find an object based on the relationship. (rhomb in slide6) Have a nice day – see you Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Viele Grüße / Best Regards Frank Mildner DEUTSCHE TELEKOM AG T-Labs (Research & Innovation) Dipl.-Ing. Frank Mildner Deutsche-Telekom-Allee 7, 64295 Darmstadt +4961515834747 (Tel.) +496151899838 (Fax) E-Mail: frank.mildner@telekom.de<mailto:frank.mildner@telekom.de> www.telekom.com<http://www.telekom.com/> Erleben, was verbindet. DEUTSCHE TELEKOM AG Aufsichtsrat: Prof. Dr. Ulrich Lehner (Vorsitzender) Vorstand: Timotheus Höttges (Vorsitzender), Reinhard Clemens, Niek Jan van Damme, Thomas Dannenfeldt, Dr. Thomas Kremer, Claudia Nemat Handelsregister: Amtsgericht Bonn HRB 6794 Sitz der Gesellschaft: Bonn Grosse Veränderungen fangen klein an – Ressourcen schonen und nicht jede E-Mail drucken. Von: dg-idot-bounces@kantarainitiative.org<mailto:dg-idot-bounces@kantarainitiative.org> [mailto:dg-idot-bounces@kantarainitiative.org] Im Auftrag von Scott Shorter Gesendet: Freitag, 8. August 2014 17:08 An: dg-idot@kantarainitiative.org<mailto:dg-idot@kantarainitiative.org> Betreff: [DG-IDoT] Notes from today's call My quick action items: * Here's the link to join the Kantara SDO liaison subcommittee, to participate in the email list and access the review files on the wiki: http://signup.kantarainitiative.org/liaison-sub-committee/ * TSCP workshop: http://tscpworkshop.com/ I think we're participating in the "securing the supply chain" track My longer term action items: * Re-visit ITU-T's OID as an namespace model in light of XRI's capabilities * Review SCAP's Asset Identification standard (and Common Platform Enumeration (CPE), Common Vulnerability Enumeration (CVE)) as namespace models * Share Kantara's comments about identity proofing non-person entities from last year's comment process with the list. Whew. Have a good weekend! - Scott -- ============================================================== Scott Shorter, Principal Security Engineer Electrosoft – Fueling Customer Success Through Outstanding Value and Trust! Woman-Owned, Minority-Owned Small Business | ISO 9001 | CMMI Level 2 1893 Metro Center Drive; Ste 228; Reston, VA 20190 (703) 437-9451 x21<tel:%28703%29%C2%A0437-9451%20x21> (office); (240) 994-7793<tel:%28240%29%20994-7793> (cell) sshorter@electrosoft-inc.com<mailto:sshorter@electrosoft-inc.com> (Email); http://www.electrosoft-inc.com<http://www.electrosoft-inc.com/> (Web) ==============================================================
FYI and speaking of NIST, I just stumbled across a draft <http://csrc.nist.gov/publications/drafts/nistir-8014/nistir_8014_draft.pdf> of NISTIR 8014 "Considerations for Identity Management in Public Safety Mobile Networks (DRAFT)" Upon initial scanning, it looks like a promising approach from an IDOT perspective - section 4.2 discusses device registration and issuance immediately after section 4.1 user registration. There is a comment period until 2014-08-22, so if anyone wants to weigh in on the document there is still time. Regards, Scott On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 5:53 AM, <Ingo.Friese@telekom.de> wrote:
Hi ,
Few comments about Scott’s this Venn diagram:
- I like it very much because it shows that Object IDM is not only an extension of user-IdM, it has to be addressed with new approaches
- Currently there are three circles (device, person, organization). Are there more circles possible? I guess… but these three are a good starting point for the moment
- To me these circles are rather bubbles (I don’t know how to draw this ;-)…because the connections e.g. btw. device and person might have different flavors
My mobile phone (incl. its sensors) for example might be a personal device ( I bought it private) or maybe its my personal device but paid by my company infact the relationship btw. me and the personal device then is different
- I think* relationships* play a central role in this discussion (see the NIST asset spec…Scott sent to the list)
Best Ingo
*From:* dg-idot-bounces@kantarainitiative.org [mailto: dg-idot-bounces@kantarainitiative.org] *On Behalf Of *Mildner, Frank *Sent:* Dienstag, 12. August 2014 17:41 *To:* sshorter@electrosoft-inc.com; dg-idot@kantarainitiative.org *Subject:* Re: [DG-IDoT] Notes from Friday call - ERM
Hi Scott,
Last Friday you introduced some ideas regarding Entity Relationship Modelling the Identities of Things.
Thank you very much – for your presentation. Ingo and me have the ERM issue in our mind for a long time.
I think your ERM is a good starting point – as you show at slide 3 and 6
A missing key indicator in the IoT ID landscape is the information in rhomb !
In an IoT example: a sensor – *belongs, is owned, scales, ……-* something
I think we need rather filled/stuffed/intelligent links between objects, instead of poor SQL links .
I would like to start a discussion in our group about mechanism whereby we can find an object based on the relationship. (rhomb in slide6)
Have a nice day – see you
Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Viele Grüße / Best Regards Frank Mildner
*DEUTSCHE TELEKOM AG* T-Labs (Research & Innovation) Dipl.-Ing. Frank Mildner Deutsche-Telekom-Allee 7, 64295 Darmstadt +4961515834747 (Tel.)
+496151899838 (Fax)
E-Mail: frank.mildner@telekom.de
www.telekom.com
*Erleben, was verbindet.*
*DEUTSCHE TELEKOM AG*Aufsichtsrat: Prof. Dr. Ulrich Lehner (Vorsitzender) Vorstand: Timotheus Höttges (Vorsitzender), Reinhard Clemens, Niek Jan van Damme, Thomas Dannenfeldt,
Dr. Thomas Kremer, Claudia Nemat Handelsregister: Amtsgericht Bonn HRB 6794 Sitz der Gesellschaft: Bonn
*Grosse Veränderungen fangen klein an **–** Ressourcen schonen und nicht jede E-Mail drucken.*
*Von:* dg-idot-bounces@kantarainitiative.org [ mailto:dg-idot-bounces@kantarainitiative.org <dg-idot-bounces@kantarainitiative.org>] *Im Auftrag von *Scott Shorter *Gesendet:* Freitag, 8. August 2014 17:08 *An:* dg-idot@kantarainitiative.org *Betreff:* [DG-IDoT] Notes from today's call
My quick action items:
- Here's the link to join the Kantara SDO liaison subcommittee, to participate in the email list and access the review files on the wiki: http://signup.kantarainitiative.org/liaison-sub-committee/
- TSCP workshop: http://tscpworkshop.com/ I think we're participating in the "securing the supply chain" track
My longer term action items:
- Re-visit ITU-T's OID as an namespace model in light of XRI's capabilities
- Review SCAP's Asset Identification standard (and Common Platform Enumeration (CPE), Common Vulnerability Enumeration (CVE)) as namespace models
- Share Kantara's comments about identity proofing non-person entities from last year's comment process with the list.
Whew. Have a good weekend!
-
Scott
--
==============================================================
*Scott Shorter, Principal Security Engineer* Electrosoft *–* Fueling Customer Success Through Outstanding Value and Trust! *Woman-Owned, Minority-Owned Small Business | ISO 9001 | CMMI Level 2 * 1893 Metro Center Drive; Ste 228; Reston, VA 20190 (703) 437-9451 x21 (office); (240) 994-7793 (cell) sshorter@electrosoft-inc.com (Email); http://www.electrosoft-inc.com (Web) ==============================================================
-- ============================================================== *Scott Shorter, Principal Security Engineer* Electrosoft *–* Fueling Customer Success Through Outstanding Value and Trust! *Woman-Owned, Minority-Owned Small Business | ISO 9001 | CMMI Level 2 * 1893 Metro Center Drive; Ste 228; Reston, VA 20190 (703) 437-9451 x21 (office); (240) 994-7793 (cell) sshorter@electrosoft-inc.com (Email); http://www.electrosoft-inc.com (Web) ==============================================================
To you point about relationships. The Identity Relationship Management WG had its first meeting this week. I expect a healthy amount of interactions between the two WGs. On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 5:53 AM, <Ingo.Friese@telekom.de> wrote:
Hi ,
Few comments about Scott’s this Venn diagram:
- I like it very much because it shows that Object IDM is not only an extension of user-IdM, it has to be addressed with new approaches
- Currently there are three circles (device, person, organization). Are there more circles possible? I guess… but these three are a good starting point for the moment
- To me these circles are rather bubbles (I don’t know how to draw this ;-)…because the connections e.g. btw. device and person might have different flavors
My mobile phone (incl. its sensors) for example might be a personal device ( I bought it private) or maybe its my personal device but paid by my company infact the relationship btw. me and the personal device then is different
- I think* relationships* play a central role in this discussion (see the NIST asset spec…Scott sent to the list)
Best Ingo
*From:* dg-idot-bounces@kantarainitiative.org [mailto: dg-idot-bounces@kantarainitiative.org] *On Behalf Of *Mildner, Frank *Sent:* Dienstag, 12. August 2014 17:41 *To:* sshorter@electrosoft-inc.com; dg-idot@kantarainitiative.org *Subject:* Re: [DG-IDoT] Notes from Friday call - ERM
Hi Scott,
Last Friday you introduced some ideas regarding Entity Relationship Modelling the Identities of Things.
Thank you very much – for your presentation. Ingo and me have the ERM issue in our mind for a long time.
I think your ERM is a good starting point – as you show at slide 3 and 6
A missing key indicator in the IoT ID landscape is the information in rhomb !
In an IoT example: a sensor – *belongs, is owned, scales, ……-* something
I think we need rather filled/stuffed/intelligent links between objects, instead of poor SQL links .
I would like to start a discussion in our group about mechanism whereby we can find an object based on the relationship. (rhomb in slide6)
Have a nice day – see you
Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Viele Grüße / Best Regards Frank Mildner
*DEUTSCHE TELEKOM AG* T-Labs (Research & Innovation) Dipl.-Ing. Frank Mildner Deutsche-Telekom-Allee 7, 64295 Darmstadt +4961515834747 (Tel.)
+496151899838 (Fax)
E-Mail: frank.mildner@telekom.de
www.telekom.com
*Erleben, was verbindet.*
*DEUTSCHE TELEKOM AG*Aufsichtsrat: Prof. Dr. Ulrich Lehner (Vorsitzender) Vorstand: Timotheus Höttges (Vorsitzender), Reinhard Clemens, Niek Jan van Damme, Thomas Dannenfeldt,
Dr. Thomas Kremer, Claudia Nemat Handelsregister: Amtsgericht Bonn HRB 6794 Sitz der Gesellschaft: Bonn
*Grosse Veränderungen fangen klein an **–** Ressourcen schonen und nicht jede E-Mail drucken.*
*Von:* dg-idot-bounces@kantarainitiative.org [ mailto:dg-idot-bounces@kantarainitiative.org <dg-idot-bounces@kantarainitiative.org>] *Im Auftrag von *Scott Shorter *Gesendet:* Freitag, 8. August 2014 17:08 *An:* dg-idot@kantarainitiative.org *Betreff:* [DG-IDoT] Notes from today's call
My quick action items:
- Here's the link to join the Kantara SDO liaison subcommittee, to participate in the email list and access the review files on the wiki: http://signup.kantarainitiative.org/liaison-sub-committee/
- TSCP workshop: http://tscpworkshop.com/ I think we're participating in the "securing the supply chain" track
My longer term action items:
- Re-visit ITU-T's OID as an namespace model in light of XRI's capabilities
- Review SCAP's Asset Identification standard (and Common Platform Enumeration (CPE), Common Vulnerability Enumeration (CVE)) as namespace models
- Share Kantara's comments about identity proofing non-person entities from last year's comment process with the list.
Whew. Have a good weekend!
-
Scott
--
==============================================================
*Scott Shorter, Principal Security Engineer* Electrosoft *–* Fueling Customer Success Through Outstanding Value and Trust! *Woman-Owned, Minority-Owned Small Business | ISO 9001 | CMMI Level 2 * 1893 Metro Center Drive; Ste 228; Reston, VA 20190 (703) 437-9451 x21 (office); (240) 994-7793 (cell) sshorter@electrosoft-inc.com (Email); http://www.electrosoft-inc.com (Web) ==============================================================
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Hi Ian, Of course…are you or anyone of the group in Utrecht? From: Ian Glazer [mailto:iglazer@salesforce.com] Sent: Donnerstag, 14. August 2014 15:44 To: Friese, Ingo Cc: dg-idot@kantarainitiative.org Subject: Re: [DG-IDoT] Notes from Friday call - ERM To you point about relationships. The Identity Relationship Management WG had its first meeting this week. I expect a healthy amount of interactions between the two WGs. On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 5:53 AM, <Ingo.Friese@telekom.de<mailto:Ingo.Friese@telekom.de>> wrote: Hi , Few comments about Scott’s this Venn diagram: - I like it very much because it shows that Object IDM is not only an extension of user-IdM, it has to be addressed with new approaches - Currently there are three circles (device, person, organization). Are there more circles possible? I guess… but these three are a good starting point for the moment - To me these circles are rather bubbles (I don’t know how to draw this ;-)…because the connections e.g. btw. device and person might have different flavors My mobile phone (incl. its sensors) for example might be a personal device ( I bought it private) or maybe its my personal device but paid by my company infact the relationship btw. me and the personal device then is different - I think relationships play a central role in this discussion (see the NIST asset spec…Scott sent to the list) Best Ingo From: dg-idot-bounces@kantarainitiative.org<mailto:dg-idot-bounces@kantarainitiative.org> [mailto:dg-idot-bounces@kantarainitiative.org<mailto:dg-idot-bounces@kantarainitiative.org>] On Behalf Of Mildner, Frank Sent: Dienstag, 12. August 2014 17:41 To: sshorter@electrosoft-inc.com<mailto:sshorter@electrosoft-inc.com>; dg-idot@kantarainitiative.org<mailto:dg-idot@kantarainitiative.org> Subject: Re: [DG-IDoT] Notes from Friday call - ERM Hi Scott, Last Friday you introduced some ideas regarding Entity Relationship Modelling the Identities of Things. Thank you very much – for your presentation. Ingo and me have the ERM issue in our mind for a long time. I think your ERM is a good starting point – as you show at slide 3 and 6 [cid:image001.png@01CFB7DC.8088F0A0] A missing key indicator in the IoT ID landscape is the information in rhomb ! In an IoT example: a sensor – belongs, is owned, scales, ……- something I think we need rather filled/stuffed/intelligent links between objects, instead of poor SQL links . I would like to start a discussion in our group about mechanism whereby we can find an object based on the relationship. (rhomb in slide6) Have a nice day – see you Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Viele Grüße / Best Regards Frank Mildner DEUTSCHE TELEKOM AG T-Labs (Research & Innovation) Dipl.-Ing. Frank Mildner Deutsche-Telekom-Allee 7, 64295 Darmstadt +4961515834747<tel:%2B4961515834747> (Tel.) +496151899838<tel:%2B496151899838> (Fax) E-Mail: frank.mildner@telekom.de<mailto:frank.mildner@telekom.de> www.telekom.com<http://www.telekom.com/> Erleben, was verbindet. DEUTSCHE TELEKOM AG Aufsichtsrat: Prof. Dr. Ulrich Lehner (Vorsitzender) Vorstand: Timotheus Höttges (Vorsitzender), Reinhard Clemens, Niek Jan van Damme, Thomas Dannenfeldt, Dr. Thomas Kremer, Claudia Nemat Handelsregister: Amtsgericht Bonn HRB 6794 Sitz der Gesellschaft: Bonn Grosse Veränderungen fangen klein an – Ressourcen schonen und nicht jede E-Mail drucken. Von: dg-idot-bounces@kantarainitiative.org<mailto:dg-idot-bounces@kantarainitiative.org> [mailto:dg-idot-bounces@kantarainitiative.org] Im Auftrag von Scott Shorter Gesendet: Freitag, 8. August 2014 17:08 An: dg-idot@kantarainitiative.org<mailto:dg-idot@kantarainitiative.org> Betreff: [DG-IDoT] Notes from today's call My quick action items: * Here's the link to join the Kantara SDO liaison subcommittee, to participate in the email list and access the review files on the wiki: http://signup.kantarainitiative.org/liaison-sub-committee/ * TSCP workshop: http://tscpworkshop.com/ I think we're participating in the "securing the supply chain" track My longer term action items: * Re-visit ITU-T's OID as an namespace model in light of XRI's capabilities * Review SCAP's Asset Identification standard (and Common Platform Enumeration (CPE), Common Vulnerability Enumeration (CVE)) as namespace models * Share Kantara's comments about identity proofing non-person entities from last year's comment process with the list. Whew. Have a good weekend! - Scott -- ============================================================== Scott Shorter, Principal Security Engineer Electrosoft – Fueling Customer Success Through Outstanding Value and Trust! Woman-Owned, Minority-Owned Small Business | ISO 9001 | CMMI Level 2 1893 Metro Center Drive; Ste 228; Reston, VA 20190 (703) 437-9451 x21<tel:%28703%29%C2%A0437-9451%20x21> (office); (240) 994-7793<tel:%28240%29%20994-7793> (cell) sshorter@electrosoft-inc.com<mailto:sshorter@electrosoft-inc.com> (Email); http://www.electrosoft-inc.com<http://www.electrosoft-inc.com/> (Web) ============================================================== _______________________________________________ DG-IDoT mailing list DG-IDoT@kantarainitiative.org<mailto:DG-IDoT@kantarainitiative.org> http://kantarainitiative.org/mailman/listinfo/dg-idot -- Ian Glazer Senior Director, Identity +1 202 255 3166 @iglazer<https://twitter.com/iglazer>
I will be in Utrecht, but will need to catch up a little bit on some items in DG-IDoT to be effective.I have been following the list, but not attending calls.CheersColin From: Ingo.Friese@telekom.de To: iglazer@salesforce.com Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2014 16:26:29 +0200 CC: dg-idot@kantarainitiative.org Subject: Re: [DG-IDoT] Notes from Friday call - ERM Hi Ian, Of course…are you or anyone of the group in Utrecht? From: Ian Glazer [mailto:iglazer@salesforce.com] Sent: Donnerstag, 14. August 2014 15:44 To: Friese, Ingo Cc: dg-idot@kantarainitiative.org Subject: Re: [DG-IDoT] Notes from Friday call - ERM To you point about relationships. The Identity Relationship Management WG had its first meeting this week. I expect a healthy amount of interactions between the two WGs. On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 5:53 AM, <Ingo.Friese@telekom.de> wrote:Hi , Few comments about Scott’s this Venn diagram: - I like it very much because it shows that Object IDM is not only an extension of user-IdM, it has to be addressed with new approaches - Currently there are three circles (device, person, organization). Are there more circles possible? I guess… but these three are a good starting point for the moment - To me these circles are rather bubbles (I don’t know how to draw this ;-)…because the connections e.g. btw. device and person might have different flavors My mobile phone (incl. its sensors) for example might be a personal device ( I bought it private) or maybe its my personal device but paid by my company infact the relationship btw. me and the personal device then is different - I think relationships play a central role in this discussion (see the NIST asset spec…Scott sent to the list) Best Ingo From: dg-idot-bounces@kantarainitiative.org [mailto:dg-idot-bounces@kantarainitiative.org] On Behalf Of Mildner, Frank Sent: Dienstag, 12. August 2014 17:41 To: sshorter@electrosoft-inc.com; dg-idot@kantarainitiative.org Subject: Re: [DG-IDoT] Notes from Friday call - ERM Hi Scott, Last Friday you introduced some ideas regarding Entity Relationship Modelling the Identities of Things. Thank you very much – for your presentation. Ingo and me have the ERM issue in our mind for a long time. I think your ERM is a good starting point – as you show at slide 3 and 6 A missing key indicator in the IoT ID landscape is the information in rhomb ! In an IoT example: a sensor – belongs, is owned, scales, ……- something I think we need rather filled/stuffed/intelligent links between objects, instead of poor SQL links . I would like to start a discussion in our group about mechanism whereby we can find an object based on the relationship. (rhomb in slide6) Have a nice day – see you Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Viele Grüße / Best Regards Frank Mildner DEUTSCHE TELEKOM AG T-Labs (Research & Innovation) Dipl.-Ing. Frank Mildner Deutsche-Telekom-Allee 7, 64295 Darmstadt +4961515834747 (Tel.)+496151899838 (Fax)E-Mail: frank.mildner@telekom.dewww.telekom.comErleben, was verbindet. DEUTSCHE TELEKOM AG Aufsichtsrat: Prof. Dr. Ulrich Lehner (Vorsitzender) Vorstand: Timotheus Höttges (Vorsitzender), Reinhard Clemens, Niek Jan van Damme, Thomas Dannenfeldt,Dr. Thomas Kremer, Claudia Nemat Handelsregister: Amtsgericht Bonn HRB 6794 Sitz der Gesellschaft: Bonn Grosse Veränderungen fangen klein an – Ressourcen schonen und nicht jede E-Mail drucken. Von: dg-idot-bounces@kantarainitiative.org [mailto:dg-idot-bounces@kantarainitiative.org] Im Auftrag von Scott Shorter Gesendet: Freitag, 8. August 2014 17:08 An: dg-idot@kantarainitiative.org Betreff: [DG-IDoT] Notes from today's call My quick action items:Here's the link to join the Kantara SDO liaison subcommittee, to participate in the email list and access the review files on the wiki: http://signup.kantarainitiative.org/liaison-sub-committee/TSCP workshop: http://tscpworkshop.com/ I think we're participating in the "securing the supply chain" trackMy longer term action items:Re-visit ITU-T's OID as an namespace model in light of XRI's capabilitiesReview SCAP's Asset Identification standard (and Common Platform Enumeration (CPE), Common Vulnerability Enumeration (CVE)) as namespace modelsShare Kantara's comments about identity proofing non-person entities from last year's comment process with the list.Whew. Have a good weekend!-Scott-- ==============================================================Scott Shorter, Principal Security Engineer Electrosoft – Fueling Customer Success Through Outstanding Value and Trust! Woman-Owned, Minority-Owned Small Business | ISO 9001 | CMMI Level 2 1893 Metro Center Drive; Ste 228; Reston, VA 20190 (703) 437-9451 x21 (office); (240) 994-7793 (cell) sshorter@electrosoft-inc.com (Email); http://www.electrosoft-inc.com (Web) ============================================================== _______________________________________________ DG-IDoT mailing list DG-IDoT@kantarainitiative.org http://kantarainitiative.org/mailman/listinfo/dg-idot -- Ian GlazerSenior Director, Identity+1 202 255 3166@iglazer _______________________________________________ DG-IDoT mailing list DG-IDoT@kantarainitiative.org http://kantarainitiative.org/mailman/listinfo/dg-idot
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Colin Wallis -
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Scott Shorter