Hi Kaliya,
I am assuming that this is your first name according the sender information of this mail.
You are raising two interesting aspects imho:
1. The request to support your judgement.
2. If this group and mailing list is the appropriate medium to do as such.
I have to admit, that I am not fully aware of what has been discussed at the RSA breakfast and with whom as I didn't attend.
As of 1.: One thing I have learned within the years in that business and topic of Identity management is to achieve a complete or at least best possible understanding of the context of an information or opinion of another individual.
So please allow me to ask, why you have come to the conclusion, that passwords are not identifiers and attributes?
What was the motivation of Dr. Barber to declare passwords as such?
In which context has this poster been created, published and used?
As of 2.: I leave this to the elder group members to decide, as they had an idea why to found this initiative and create the group.
But, has this poster been published in the various social media channels, such as twitter, FB, LinkedIn etc.?
If so, has it been discussed? With what common meaning and understanding?
These channels are imho the far better platforms to initiate and drive discussions like yours, because you would benefit from a broader group of professionals with exponentially more expertise and experience, as would we to absorb
the common understanding and opinions of such discussions.
No offense to the individuals of this group, as I would bet that all members of this mailing list are also joined members of the various news groups, blog readers, twitter followers etc., plus many more high skilled individuals.
Mit freundlichen Grüßen / With best regards
Dirk Wahlefeld
HI ID Pro's
As those of you know who attended the ID-Pro breakfast at RSA.. I'm in the new Masters of Science in Identity Management and Security at UT Austin.
There have been some challenges in what has been taught... including that the factors of authentication are not that...but "identifying Information" or as in the poster below says "Identity Attributes"
They also have taught that password are identifiers (yes this was actually taught)... in this poster on the other side they are identity attributes..yes identity attributes. Sigh. I have raised issues about these two things that have been taught...and
well not gotten very far. (besides being told i'm a "bad student" and "unwilling to learn".
But now they have this fabulous poster. I'm hoping some of you with blogs or twitter handles can point at the poster - references it and explain why both things are wrong. (cause they, specifically Dr. Barber and Dr. Doty don't believe me.
Or maybe this group could write a joint letter explaining its 'wrongness" it snot great that this center is putting out this information...it doesn't help us in the long run get explaining this stuff right.
Here is the post on their site with the poster.
