Hi Kaliya, A fair question - identity and bias are certainly inter-related issues. Who do you envision would be the recipient of such training? At a minimum, I would imagine that the code of conduct should provoke some evaluation of actual and potential practices against the objectives, which would be a good start. Thanks for the input, Scott From: Kaliya Identity Woman <kaliya@identitywoman.net> Date: Wednesday, December 7, 2016 at 12:19 PM To: Scott Shorter <scott.shorter@kuma.pro> Cc: Megan Cannon <megan@kantarainitiative.org>, "dg-idpro@kantarainitiative.org" <dg-idpro@kantarainitiative.org> Subject: Re: [DG-IDPro] Reminder: ID Pro Discussion Group meeting today at 11am ET Given this statement is in the code of conduct · I will treat fairly all persons and not engage in acts of discrimination based on race, religion, gender, disability, age, citizenship, national origin, veteran status, sexual orientation, gender identity, or gender expression." Are we as an organization going to be offering rigorous training around how to address implicit bias? And understanding the dynamics and issues that are in play when dealing with marginalized communities. Relative to communities of color and people who are white Americans this is sometimes called White Awareness Training or Anti-Racism Training. There is similar work to be done around sexism (men relative to women) and relative to gender identity issues. Along with training to be aware of religion etc. If we do not offer resources to live into the statements we should not be making the statements a requirement of "the profession". On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 9:14 AM, Scott Shorter <scott.shorter@kuma.pro<mailto:scott.shorter@kuma.pro>> wrote: My apologies for missing the meeting, I had a prior conflict at that time. The wiki is up to date with the status of the code of conduct project<https://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/idpro/Codes+of+Conduct+Space>. Please let me know if any questions or comments came up. Is 11am the new meeting time going forward? Regards, Scott From: <dg-idpro-bounces@kantarainitiative.org<mailto:dg-idpro-bounces@kantarainitiative.org>> on behalf of Megan Cannon <megan@kantarainitiative.org<mailto:megan@kantarainitiative.org>> Date: Wednesday, December 7, 2016 at 9:07 AM To: "dg-idpro@kantarainitiative.org<mailto:dg-idpro@kantarainitiative.org>" <dg-idpro@kantarainitiative.org<mailto:dg-idpro@kantarainitiative.org>> Subject: [DG-IDPro] Reminder: ID Pro Discussion Group meeting today at 11am ET Greetings, Please join the Kantara ID Pro Discussion Group call today at 11:00am ET. The call details are below for your reference. All the best, Megan Agenda: * Project teams report out * Body of Knowledge / Taxonomy - Thorsten Niebuhr * Codes of Conduct / Practice - Scott Shorter * Membership Models / Services - Giles Watkins * Governance / Structure - Sarah Squire * Participation level discussion ________________________________ Wednesday, December 7 11:00am Eastern Standard Time (UTC -5h) Please join my meeting from your computer, tablet or smartphone. https://global.gotomeeting.com/join/747903453 You can also dial in using your phone. United States +1 (646) 749-3117<tel:(646)%20749-3117> Access Code: 747-903-453 More phone numbers Australia +61 2 8355 1039<tel:+61%202%208355%201039> Austria +43 7 2088 1033 Belgium +32 (0) 28 93 7001 Canada +1 (647) 497-9379<tel:(647)%20497-9379> Denmark +45 69 91 89 33<tel:+45%2069%2091%2089%2033> Finland +358 (0) 923 17 0555 France +33 (0) 170 950 585 Germany +49 (0) 692 5736 7301<tel:+49%2069%20257367301> Ireland +353 (0) 19 030 050 Italy +39 0 693 38 75 50 Netherlands +31 (0) 208 080 208 New Zealand +64 9 925 0481<tel:+64%209-925%200481> Norway +47 21 54 82 21<tel:+47%2021%2054%2082%2021> Spain +34 911 82 9890<tel:+34%20911%2082%2098%2090> Sweden +46 (0) 853 527 817 Switzerland +41 (0) 435 0167 65 United Kingdom +44 (0) 330 221 0099<tel:+44%20330%20221%200099> First GoToMeeting? Try a test session: http://help.citrix.com/getready <http://help.citrix.com/getready> _______________________________________________ DG-IDPro mailing list DG-IDPro@kantarainitiative.org<mailto:DG-IDPro@kantarainitiative.org> http://kantarainitiative.org/mailman/listinfo/dg-idpro