Normally I'm silent on saying I won't make the call but I'm the one that brought up the CISSP Code and won't be there and welcome dialogue on this in order for it to 'be considered'.

In a nutshell, my perception is there's a lot of 'be a good human being and be professional to each other' in the IDPro code and to me that's a given. (if it isn't, that's a problem in a bigger context, not just in this one)

If that’s a given, what is *SPECIFIC* to an Identity expert that is distinguishing and something that people can rally around? Will we resonate with people and hear them say 'Yeah, I support that' or 'Yeah, that's what I do around identity!' and 'I want to associate myself with this group because I subscribe to their approach/doctrine/techniques/mission/vision/values/goals/etc'.

To me things can distill down to focus.  CISSP is a/has a broad surface of security and associated principles which can include identity and best practices topics whereas an identity expert is that but as applied in the identity space with more focus on principles around identity and their application.  An IDPro can be at least minimally a capable CISSP, but more specialized in the identity space.

I hope these thoughts make sense — let me know if I'm off the mark as I currently don't have access to the wiki

As always, thoughts welcome..

Chris.

From: <dg-idpro-bounces@kantarainitiative.org> on behalf of Scott Shorter <scott.shorter@kuma.pro>
Date: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 at 12:09 PM
To: Megan Cannon <megan@kantarainitiative.org>, "dg-idpro@kantarainitiative.org" <dg-idpro@kantarainitiative.org>
Subject: Re: [DG-IDPro] Reminder: Kantara ID Pro Code of Conduct Meeting today 2pm ET

Thank you Megan.

 

Agenda:

1.       Review the draft in light of the comments on the discussion list.

  1. Questions raised on the list:
    1. Will the organization be providing training on what it means to achieve the objectives in the code? (A: seems to be an emerging consensus towards yes)
    2. Are there any responsibilities to maintain compliance metrics such as David C's experience with the Athena Swan award process? (A: haven't heard anyone say yes to this)
    3. Have we considered the CISSP / ISC2 Code of Ethics?  (A: at least one reviewer did look at that one yes)
  2. Suggestions to the code of conduct from the list
    1. Be more vague about the completeness of enumerated lists.
    2. Be more explicit about "do no harm"
      1. Q: What does harm mean?

 

Looking forward to the call!

-

Scott

 

From: <dg-idpro-bounces@kantarainitiative.org> on behalf of Megan Cannon <megan@kantarainitiative.org>
Date: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 at 10:32 AM
To: "dg-idpro@kantarainitiative.org" <dg-idpro@kantarainitiative.org>
Subject: [DG-IDPro] Reminder: Kantara ID Pro Code of Conduct Meeting today 2pm ET

 

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