On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 11:38 AM, Scott Shorter <scott.shorter@kuma.pro> wrote:
Hi Kaliya,
A fair question - identity and bias are certainly inter-related issues. Who do you envision would be the recipient of such training?
The ID professionals you are suggesting follow this code of conduct.
At a minimum, I would imagine that the code of conduct should provoke some evaluation of actual and potential practices against the objectives, which would be a good start.
Most ID Professionals that I have met do not have any good knowledge or training around these issues. When I have brought issues up around these topics in professional settings they make people VERY VERY uncomfortable.
Thanks for the input, Scott
*From: *Kaliya Identity Woman <kaliya@identitywoman.net> *Date: *Wednesday, December 7, 2016 at 12:19 PM *To: *Scott Shorter <scott.shorter@kuma.pro> *Cc: *Megan Cannon <megan@kantarainitiative.org>, " dg-idpro@kantarainitiative.org" <dg-idpro@kantarainitiative.org> *Subject: *Re: [DG-IDPro] Reminder: ID Pro Discussion Group meeting today at 11am ET
Given this statement is in the code of conduct
· I will treat fairly all persons and not engage in acts of discrimination based on race, religion, gender, disability, age, citizenship, national origin, veteran status, sexual orientation, gender identity, or gender expression."
Are we as an organization going to be offering rigorous training around how to address implicit bias? And understanding the dynamics and issues that are in play when dealing with marginalized communities. Relative to communities of color and people who are white Americans this is sometimes called White Awareness Training or Anti-Racism Training.
There is similar work to be done around sexism (men relative to women) and relative to gender identity issues.
Along with training to be aware of religion etc.
If we do not offer resources to live into the statements we should not be making the statements a requirement of "the profession".
On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 9:14 AM, Scott Shorter <scott.shorter@kuma.pro> wrote:
My apologies for missing the meeting, I had a prior conflict at that time. The wiki is up to date with the status of the code of conduct project <https://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/idpro/Codes+of+Conduct+Space>. Please let me know if any questions or comments came up.
Is 11am the new meeting time going forward?
Regards,
Scott
*From: *<dg-idpro-bounces@kantarainitiative.org> on behalf of Megan Cannon <megan@kantarainitiative.org> *Date: *Wednesday, December 7, 2016 at 9:07 AM *To: *"dg-idpro@kantarainitiative.org" <dg-idpro@kantarainitiative.org> *Subject: *[DG-IDPro] Reminder: ID Pro Discussion Group meeting today at 11am ET
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