That is helpful feedback, and the claims, now that you mention it are misplaced in the format of the report. If you have any suggestions on how to rectify - then a positive way forward would be welcome. Best, Mark On 6 Apr 2024, at 20:55, Andrew Hughes <andrewhughes3000@gmail.com> wrote: I'm sorry Sal - but I have a very hard time understanding what the document tries to describe or what the ask is. If it is to inform the ISO committee of work going on outside of ISO, then it does a confusing and poor job. There are a whole bunch of claims that "the scheme" or "the TPI" or some other things actively "do" things - no mention of WHO or WHAT takes action - it's all super-vague and seems to paint a wishful-thinking world. In it's current state I do not support sending this document outside of Kantara. ———————— Andrew Hughes CISM m +1 250.888.9474 AndrewHughes3000@gmail.com<mailto:AndrewHughes3000@gmail.com> On Fri, Apr 5, 2024 at 7:01 AM Salvatore D'Agostino <sal@idmachines.com<mailto:sal@idmachines.com>> wrote: Cleaned up further Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef> ________________________________ From: MarkL <mark@0pn.org<mailto:mark@0pn.org>> Sent: Friday, April 5, 2024 9:58:18 AM To: Tim Loyd <timl@transparencylab.ca<mailto:timl@transparencylab.ca>> Cc: timothy Reiniger <tsreiniger@gmail.com<mailto:tsreiniger@gmail.com>>; Sharon Polsky <Sharon.polsky@aminacorp.ca<mailto:Sharon.polsky@aminacorp.ca>>; Kate Tilleczek <katetill@edu.yorku.ca<mailto:katetill@edu.yorku.ca>>; Paul Knowles <paul.knowles@meddea.global>; Salvatore D'Agostino <sal@idmachines.com<mailto:sal@idmachines.com>> Subject: Fwd: FOR REVIEW: updated paper FYI - the polished version, Begin forwarded message: From: Tara Sinclair <tara.sinclair@reddialcomms.co.uk<mailto:tara.sinclair@reddialcomms.co.uk>> Subject: FOR REVIEW: updated paper Date: 5 April 2024 at 13:15:29 BST To: Mark Lizar <mark@transparencylab.ca<mailto:mark@transparencylab.ca>>, MarkL <mark@0pn.org<mailto:mark@0pn.org>> Incorporating your latest changes _______________________________________________ A Community Group mailing list of KantaraInitiative.org LC mailing list -- lc@kantarainitiative.org<mailto:lc@kantarainitiative.org> To unsubscribe send an email to staff@kantarainitiative.org<mailto:staff@kantarainitiative.org> List archives -- https://mailman.kantarainitiative.org/hyperkitty/list/lc@kantarainitiative.o... ______ Group wiki -- https://kantara.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/LC _______________________________________________ A Community Group mailing list of KantaraInitiative.org LC mailing list -- lc@kantarainitiative.org To unsubscribe send an email to staff@kantarainitiative.org List archives -- https://mailman.kantarainitiative.org/hyperkitty/list/lc@kantarainitiative.o... ______ Group wiki -- https://kantara.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/LC Mark Lizar Executive Director 0PN; Digital Transparency Lab (Digital iDentity, Transparency, Trust & Consent Engineering) * Toronto +1 -289 - 501 -3597 * London +44 208 -123 2476