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ANCR Comments for NIST : NIST Attribute Validation Services for Identity Management Architecture
by MarkL 08 Nov '24

08 Nov '24

Dear WG, There is finally a paper up for comment, which for the first time enters into the relative field of that the ANCR WG works in. It is called "NIST IR 8480: Attribute Validation Services for Identity Management Architecture, Security, Privacy, and Operational Considerations” [Internet Accessible @ https://csrc.nist.gov/pubs/ir/8480/ipd ] The deadline for comments, has been extended from tomorrow to Dec 2nd, and I am calling for interest from a couple of other standards communities with a keen interest on the topic of Digital Trust, to participate in a joint strategy on submitting comments, wherein we put forward comments that might compliment each other in this field. In particular, Kantara as an 800 63 assessor has a certain perspective that has weight and could be support by some choice comments. This would entail not the regular - put in all the comments we feel are good, but a mandate to curate the edit of these comments so that meet a level of a) consensus b) are appropriate for Kantara’s role in the ecosystem, To this end, I am calling for those of you who are interested to review this document, and to join a meeting to discuss, draft and agree an ANCR WG set of comments. Not prohibiting any member of this group to directly put forward any other comments that you might think are appropriate from a personal or organisational level independently. If you are interested, and because time is relatively short, I invite those of you interested to review the doc, and, to join an adhoc set of meetings for the next 3 Thursday’s - at 5pm (eastern) for up to 45 min, Objective for the meetings: 1. Meeting 1 to discuss the paper 2. Meeting 2 to draft and or review draft comments 3. Meeting 3 agree and share with counterparts to prep - and then submit comments While this is a bit ambitious, it is my opinion that this is very important topic and the raison d’etra for ANCR WG, it is also a method for us to come to a shared understanding of the technical purpose of this group, and has a path for a multi-community team up, that can leverage the TPI spec, so that we can, together, marshal the scale of expertise and advocacy required to really make a difference. Here is the [Meeting Link](https://teams.live.com/meet/9337304751367?p=weO1qtfKzAcPxaDa9W) for next Thursday at 5pm Sincerely, Mark Lizar Executive Director Transparency, Surveillance & Consent Lab @ Global Privacy Rights Mark Lizar invited you to a Microsoft Teams Meeting: ANCR WG-AD Hoc -NIST Comments 14 November 2024 17:00 - 17:45 (EST) Meeting link: [ANCR WG-AD Hoc -NIST Comments | Microsoft Teams | Meet-up-Join](https://teams.live.com/meet/9337304751367?p=weO1qtfKzAcPxaDa9…"display:flex;flex-direction:column;justify-content:start;align-items:start;padding:03%3%3%;">

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ANCR Comments for NIST : NIST Attribute Validation Services for Identity Management Architecture
by Mark Lizar 07 Nov '24

07 Nov '24

Dear WG, There is finally a paper up for comment, which for the first time enters into the relative field of that the ANCR WG works in. It is called "NIST IR 8480: Attribute Validation Services for Identity Management Architecture, Security, Privacy, and Operational Considerations” [Internet Accessible @ https://csrc.nist.gov/pubs/ir/8480/ipd ] The deadline for comments, has been extended from tomorrow to Dec 2nd, and I am discussing with a couple of other standards groups with their skin in this game, a joint strategy on putting some comments forward, where in we put forward comments that might compliment each other in this field. In particular, Kantara as an assessor has a certain perspective that could be support by some choice comments by us. This would entail not the regular - put in all the comments we feel are good, but a bit of a mandate to curate the editorial of these comments so that meet a level of a) consensus b) are appropriate for Kantara’s role in the ecosystem, To this end, I would like to invite interested parties to review this document, and if interested, discuss, draft and agree an ANCR WG set of comments, Not prohibiting any member of this group to indecently put forward all other comments that you might thing appropriate, If you are interested, and because time is relatively short, the idea would be to invite people to review the doc, and, to have an adhoc set of meetings for the next 3 Thursday’s - at 5pm (eastern) for an hour, Objective for the meetings: 1. Meeting 1 to discuss the paper 2. Meeting 2 to draft and or review draft comments 3. Meeting 3 agree and share with counterparts to prep - and then submit comments While this is a bit ambitious, it is my opinion that this is very important topic, perhaps even a raison d’etra for ANCR WG, it is a way for us to come to a shared understanding of the technical purpose of this group, and has a path for a multi-community team up together the scale of experts required to actually do anything in the current market, Here is the Meeting Link<https://teams.live.com/meet/9337304751367?p=weO1qtfKzAcPxaDa9W> for next Thursday at 5pm Best, Mark Lizar Executive Director Transparency, Surveillance & Consent Lab @ Global Privacy Rights Mark Lizar invited you to a Microsoft Teams Meeting: ANCR WG-AD Hoc -NIST Comments 14 November 2024 17:00 - 18:00 (EST) Meeting link: ANCR WG-AD Hoc -NIST Comments | Microsoft Teams | Meet-up-Join<https://teams.live.com/meet/9337304751367?p=weO1qtfKzAcPxaDa9W>

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No call today
by Salvatore D'Agostino 30 Oct '24

30 Oct '24

Hi WG Due to travel and other scheduling conflicts the meeting today will be cancelled. Keep an eye on the list for the TPI draft for comment and work on the next call Best Sal Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef>

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Re: Posting MVCR v2 - Re: meeting schedule
by Salvatore D'Agostino 22 Oct '24

22 Oct '24

0 *H÷ 010 `He0 *H÷ $Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00CB_01DB2490.B0AC8B30" This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00CB_01DB2490.B0AC8B30 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Letâs focus on the TPIs, and see to what extent MVCR v2 is required, imo. From: Team @DT-Lab <info(a)transparencylab.ca> Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2024 2:27 PM To: Salvatore D'Agostino <sal(a)idmachines.com> Cc: wg-ancr(a)kantarainitiative.org Subject: Re: Posting MVCR v2 - Re: [WG-ANCR] meeting schedule Hi Sal, Yes please post-pone. Also, is it a good idea to work on the TPI spec a bit now, as well as post the MVCR v2, on the wiki? My thinking is that this way it can at least be shared under Kantara IPR and promoted as a global digital trust standard, and also posted at Global Privacy Rights, with the same Kantara IPR. The only down side is that companies like One Trust who have patented consent receipt management are likely to take this specification and do the same thing, Another issue to consider is that gen AI scrapping is a big problem. One solution could be to post a light version of the spec publicly and keep the whole thing under membership access only, although, i dont think is likely not a solution to this problem as genAI is native to confluence now. Anyone have any thoughts? Best, Mark PS I am trying to send this again, as it has bounced, Thanks Mark, So ok with postponing? Sal From: Mark Lizar <mark(a)transparencylab.ca <mailto:mark@transparencylab.ca> > Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2024 1:19 PM To: Salvatore D'Agostino <sal(a)idmachines.com <mailto:sal@idmachines.com> > Cc: wg-ancr(a)kantarainitiative.org <mailto:wg-ancr@kantarainitiative.org> Subject: Re: [WG-ANCR] meeting schedule Hi Sal, I am working on slides for MyData and Think Digital is as panel on international Digital Identity, more of a state of plan in Canada. Mark On 22 Oct 2024, at 17:54, Salvatore D'Agostino <sal(a)idmachines.com <mailto:sal@idmachines.com> > wrote: Hi Mark, Thanks for this information. Let's postpone the meeting tomorrow to give you time to get a draft for wg review on our next meeting 6 November. When it is available post a link to the list, and we can start talking comments. I will get the latest style guide and report format from Amanda. Do you have a copy of the slides for the presentation for the MyData conference? I see you listed as Kantara Initiative and it references the NWIP I like the other paper and panelist The landscape of consent management tools â a data altruism perspective https://publications.jrc.ec.europa.eu/repository/bitstream/JRC137572/JRC137… and Cities for Digital Rights | <https://citiesfordigitalrights.org/home> Is it the same presentation for Think Digital? Let me know if this works for you, and also the rest of the WG wrt picking up the TPI work. Sincerely, Sal From: Mark Lizar <mark(a)transparencylab.ca <mailto:mark@transparencylab.ca> > Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2024 12:33 PM To: Salvatore D'Agostino <sal(a)idmachines.com <mailto:sal@idmachines.com> > Cc: wg-ancr(a)kantarainitiative.org <mailto:wg-ancr@kantarainitiative.org> <wg-ancr(a)kantarainitiative.org <mailto:wg-ancr@kantarainitiative.org> > Subject: Re: [WG-ANCR] meeting schedule Hi Sal, Thanks for Asking, I am presenting on Thursday - in a MyData Panel virtually, as well as speaking at Westminster in the UK, where I will be presenting on digital identity in Canada, and in both promoting the ANCR TPI work, Think Digital Event Oct 24th <https://thinkdigitalpartner.zohobackstage.eu/ThinkDigitalIdentityandCyberse…> International Identity Pane - In Person at Westminster, in UK * Linked In Post <https://www.linkedin.com/posts/activity-7253077194153857024-o3qN> MyData Deep Dive on Consent Management Solutions ,current practices and better alternatives <https://mydata.org/event/deep-dive-workshop-consent-management-solutions-cu…> (virtual) * LinkedIn Post <https://www.linkedin.com/posts/mydata-global_deep-dive-workshop-consent-man…> Hopefully, I will get a chance to update the TPI spec before then, but itâs not easy considering my work load. Even so, I am thinking we should post the latest MVCR Specification, which actually does specify what a Minimum Viable Notice and Consent Receipt is. The real one, that is 100% inclusive, addresses surveillance capiltalism and you know, enables people to control their own data, with an exchange flow wherein people have the choice to release identifiers and personal data to a service provider govern gin the use of digital identification technology. I know itâs hard considering the limited WG bandwidth, and the scale of the work. - Mark On 22 Oct 2024, at 16:38, Salvatore D'Agostino <sal(a)idmachines.com <mailto:sal@idmachines.com> > wrote: Hi Mark, OK so the demo comes off the agenda for now, and we can focus on the TPIs. I can think of a demo of a minimally viable notice receipt at the entity level but we can leave that to a discussion in the WG where you explain this a bit more. If the meeting tomorrow is difficult that is fine, not sure what you mean by being a guest, regrets are always accepted. When you can, can you please provide a pointer to the latest version of the TPI document for review. What is going on at Westminister, if it is relevant to the WG? Kind regards, Sal From: Mark Lizar <mark(a)transparencylab.ca <mailto:mark@transparencylab.ca> > Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2024 11:29 AM To: Salvatore D'Agostino <sal(a)idmachines.com <mailto:sal@idmachines.com> > Cc: wg-ancr(a)kantarainitiative.org <mailto:wg-ancr@kantarainitiative.org> Subject: Re: [WG-ANCR] meeting schedule Hi Sal, With regards to the demo - the issue slowing the demo down has been that while working on the demo, it led to innovation - which ushered in the new version of the specification, which then led to writing a new specification. Which means there is a bunch more work to make a real demonstration of a notice and consent receipt spec. This is what has taken way more resource time that I could feasibly provide. In addition, being in the UK this week to speak at Westminster makes it really hard for me to meet at the regular ANCR WG time. I can tentatively make the meeting tomorrow but, since I am a guest and itâs my Birthday, itâs a struggle. Best, Mark On 22 Oct 2024, at 13:46, Salvatore D'Agostino <sal(a)idmachines.com <mailto:sal@idmachines.com> > wrote: Hi WG, Gigi has resolved her schedule starting with the Nov 6 meeting, so there will be no need to poll for a new time. We will be meeting tomorrow at the normal time. Primary agenda item is the publication of the TPIs We will also discuss the Consent Receipt demo, and the normal agenda items. Kind regards, Sal IDmachines 4 Lamson Place Cambridge, MA 02139-2612 +1 617.201.4809 @idmachines https://idmachines.com <https://idmachines.com/> Please note our new address. Email, phones, other contacts remain the same. 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If you have received this email in error, please delete it and advise the sender. _______________________________________________ A Community Group mailing list of KantaraInitiative.org <http://kantarainitiative.org/> Wg-ancr mailing list -- wg-ancr(a)kantarainitiative.org <mailto:wg-ancr@kantarainitiative.org> To unsubscribe send an email to staff(a)kantarainitiative.org <mailto:staff@kantarainitiative.org> List archives -- https://mailman.kantarainitiative.org/hyperkitty/list/wg-ancr@kantarainitia… ______ Group wiki -- https://kantara.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/Wg-ancr Mark Lizar Exêecutive Director 0PN Identity Transparency Lab & the Global Privacy Rights Company ------=_NextPart_000_00CB_01DB2490.B0AC8B30 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html xmlns:v=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" = xmlns:o=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" = xmlns:w=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" = xmlns:m=3D"http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml" = xmlns=3D"http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"><head><meta = http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8"><meta = name=3DGenerator content=3D"Microsoft Word 15 (filtered = medium)"><style></style></head><body lang=3DEN-US link=3Dblue = vlink=3Dpurple style=3D'word-wrap:break-word'><div = class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>Let=E2=80=99s focus on the TPIs, and see to = what extent MVCR v2 is required, imo.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p = class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div = style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in = 0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span><= /b><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> = Team @DT-Lab <info(a)transparencylab.ca> <br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, = October 22, 2024 2:27 PM<br><b>To:</b> Salvatore D'Agostino = <sal(a)idmachines.com><br><b>Cc:</b> = wg-ancr(a)kantarainitiative.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: Posting MVCR v2 - = Re: [WG-ANCR] meeting schedule<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p = class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><blockquote = style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><div><blockquote= style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Hi = Sal, </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Yes = please  post-pone.  </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Also,  is = it a good idea to work on the TPI spec a bit now, as well as post the = MVCR v2, on the wiki?  My thinking is that this way it can at least = be shared under Kantara IPR and promoted as a global digital trust = standard, and also posted at  Global Privacy Rights, with the same = Kantara IPR. </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>The only down = side is that companies like One Trust who have patented consent receipt = management are likely to take this specification and do the same = thing,  Another issue to consider is that gen AI scrapping is a big = problem.   </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>One solution = could be to post a light version of the spec publicly and keep the whole = thing under membership access only, although, i dont think is likely not = a solution to this problem as  genAI is native to confluence = now.  </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Anyone have = any thoughts?  </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Best,</span><o:= p></o:p></p></div><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Mark</span><o:p= ></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>PS  I am = trying to send this again, as it has = bounced, </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p = class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>Thanks = Mark,</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>So ok with = postponing?</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>Sal</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div = style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in = 0in 0in;border-color:currentcolor currentcolor;border-image: = none'><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span><= /b><span class=3Dapple-converted-space><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> = </span></span><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Mark Lizar = <<a = href=3D"mailto:mark@transparencylab.ca">mark(a)transparencylab.ca</a>><s= pan class=3Dapple-converted-space> </span><br><b>Sent:</b><span = class=3Dapple-converted-space> </span>Tuesday, October 22, 2024 1:19 = PM<br><b>To:</b><span class=3Dapple-converted-space> </span>Salvatore = D'Agostino <<a = href=3D"mailto:sal@idmachines.com">sal(a)idmachines.com</a>><br><b>Cc:</= b><span class=3Dapple-converted-space> </span><a = href=3D"mailto:wg-ancr@kantarainitiative.org">wg-ancr(a)kantarainitiative.o= rg</a><br><b>Subject:</b><span class=3Dapple-converted-space> </span>Re: = [WG-ANCR] meeting = schedule</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal>Hi Sal, <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal>I am working on slides for MyData and Think Digital is = as panel on international Digital Identity, more of a state of plan in = Canada. <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal>Mark<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal = style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><blockquote = style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal>On 22 Oct 2024, at 17:54, Salvatore D'Agostino <<a = href=3D"mailto:sal@idmachines.com">sal(a)idmachines.com</a>> = wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>Hi = Mark,</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>Thanks for this = information.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>Let's postpone the = meeting tomorrow to give you time to get a draft for wg review on our = next meeting 6 November. When it is available post a link to the list, = and we can start talking comments. I will get the latest style guide and = report format from Amanda.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>Do you have a copy of = the slides for the presentation for the MyData conference? I see you = listed as Kantara Initiative and it references the = NWIP</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>I like the other = paper and panelist</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal><b><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>The landscape of = consent management tools =E2=80=93 a data altruism = perspective</span></b><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'><a = href=3D"https://publications.jrc.ec.europa.eu/repository/bitstream/JRC137= 572/JRC137572_01.pdf" = target=3D"_blank">https://publications.jrc.ec.europa.eu/repository/bitstr= eam/JRC137572/JRC137572_01.pdf</a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div>= <div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>and = </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'><a = href=3D"https://citiesfordigitalrights.org/home" = target=3D"_blank">Cities for Digital Rights = |</a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>Is it the same = presentation for Think = Digital?</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>Let me know if this = works for you, and also the rest of the WG wrt picking up the TPI = work.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>Sincerely,</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><d= iv><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>Sal</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div = id=3DdivRplyFwdMsg><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span><= /b><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> = Mark Lizar <<a = href=3D"mailto:mark@transparencylab.ca">mark(a)transparencylab.ca</a>><b= r><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, October 22, 2024 12:33 PM<br><b>To:</b> = Salvatore D'Agostino <<a = href=3D"mailto:sal@idmachines.com">sal(a)idmachines.com</a>><br><b>Cc:</= b> <a = href=3D"mailto:wg-ancr@kantarainitiative.org">wg-ancr(a)kantarainitiative.o= rg</a><span class=3Dapple-converted-space> </span><<a = href=3D"mailto:wg-ancr@kantarainitiative.org">wg-ancr(a)kantarainitiative.o= rg</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [WG-ANCR] meeting = schedule</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>Hi Sal, = </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>Thanks for = Asking, I am presenting on Thursday - in a MyData Panel virtually, as = well as speaking at Westminster in the UK, where I will be presenting on = digital identity in Canada, and in both promoting the ANCR TPI work, = </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><a = href=3D"https://thinkdigitalpartner.zohobackstage.eu/ThinkDigitalIdentity= andCybersecurityforGovernment#/?lang=3Den" target=3D"_blank">Think = Digital Event Oct 24th</a> International Identity Pane - In Person at = Westminster, in UK</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>*<a = href=3D"https://www.linkedin.com/posts/activity-7253077194153857024-o3qN"= target=3D"_blank"> Linked In = Post</a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><a = href=3D"https://mydata.org/event/deep-dive-workshop-consent-management-so= lutions-current-practice-and-better-alternatives/" = target=3D"_blank">MyData Deep Dive on Consent Management Solutions = ,current practices and better alternatives<span = class=3Dapple-converted-space> = </span></a>(virtual)</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>*<span = class=3Dapple-converted-space> </span><a = href=3D"https://www.linkedin.com/posts/mydata-global_deep-dive-workshop-c= onsent-management-solutions-activity-7254435766313902080-mAsK" = target=3D"_blank">LinkedIn Post = </a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>Hopefully, = I will get a chance to update the TPI spec before then, but it=E2=80=99s = not easy considering my work load. Even so, I am thinking we should post = the latest MVCR Specification, which actually does specify what a = Minimum Viable Notice and Consent Receipt is. The real one, that is 100% = inclusive, addresses surveillance capiltalism and you know, enables = people to control their own data, with an exchange flow wherein people = have the choice to release identifiers and personal data to a service = provider govern gin the use of digital identification technology. = </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>I know = it=E2=80=99s hard considering the limited WG bandwidth, and the scale of = the work.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>- Mark = </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><blockquote = style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt;caret-color: rgb(0, 0, = 0);font-variant-caps: normal;text-align:start;-webkit-text-stroke-width: = 0px;word-spacing:0px'><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>On 22 Oct = 2024, at 16:38, Salvatore D'Agostino <<a = href=3D"mailto:sal@idmachines.com">sal(a)idmachines.com</a>> = wrote:</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>Hi Mark,</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>OK so the demo comes = off the agenda for now, and we can focus on the TPIs. I can think of a = demo of a minimally viable notice receipt at the entity level but we can = leave that to a discussion in the WG where you explain this a bit = more.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>If the meeting tomorrow is difficult that is = fine, not sure what you mean by being a guest, regrets are always = accepted.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>When you can, can you please provide a = pointer to the latest version of the TPI document for = review.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>What is going on at Westminister, if it is = relevant to the WG?</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>Kind = regards,</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>Sal</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div = style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in = 0in 0in;border-image: none;border-color:currentcolor'><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal><b><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span><= /b><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> = Mark Lizar <<a = href=3D"mailto:mark@transparencylab.ca">mark(a)transparencylab.ca</a>> = <br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, October 22, 2024 11:29 AM<br><b>To:</b> = Salvatore D'Agostino <<a = href=3D"mailto:sal@idmachines.com">sal(a)idmachines.com</a>><br><b>Cc:</= b> <a = href=3D"mailto:wg-ancr@kantarainitiative.org">wg-ancr(a)kantarainitiative.o= rg</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [WG-ANCR] meeting = schedule</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Hi = Sal, <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>With regards to the = demo - the issue slowing the demo down has been that while working on = the demo, it led to innovation - which ushered in the new version of the = specification, which then led to writing a new specification. Which = means there is a bunch more work to make a real demonstration of a = notice and consent receipt spec. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal>This is what has taken way more resource time that I = could feasibly provide. In addition, being in the UK this week to speak = at Westminster makes it really hard for me to meet at the regular ANCR = WG time. I can tentatively make the meeting tomorrow but, since I am a = guest and it=E2=80=99s my Birthday, it=E2=80=99s a struggle. = <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal>Best,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal>Mark<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote = style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal>On 22 Oct 2024, at 13:46, Salvatore D'Agostino = <<u><span style=3D'color:blue'><a = href=3D"mailto:sal@idmachines.com">sal(a)idmachines.com</a></span></u>> = wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>Hi WG,</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>Gigi has resolved her = schedule starting with the Nov 6 meeting, so there will be no need to = poll for a new time.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>We will be meeting = tomorrow at the normal time.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>Primary agenda item = is the publication of the TPIs</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>We will also discuss = the Consent Receipt demo, and the normal agenda = items.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>Kind = regards,</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>Sal</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>IDmachines</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>4 Lamson = Place</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>Cambridge, MA = 02139-2612</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>+1 = 617.201.4809</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>@idmachines</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p= class=3DMsoNormal><u><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;color:blue'><a = href=3D"https://idmachines.com/" = target=3D"_blank">https://idmachines.com</a></span></u><o:p></o:p></p></d= iv><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>Please = note our new address. 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Re: meeting schedule
by Salvatore D'Agostino 22 Oct '24

22 Oct '24

0 *H÷ 010 `He0 *H÷ $Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_009E_01DB2486.83E6A4F0" This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_009E_01DB2486.83E6A4F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Thanks Mark, So ok with postponing? Sal From: Mark Lizar <mark(a)transparencylab.ca> Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2024 1:19 PM To: Salvatore D'Agostino <sal(a)idmachines.com> Cc: wg-ancr(a)kantarainitiative.org Subject: Re: [WG-ANCR] meeting schedule Hi Sal, I am working on slides for MyData and Think Digital is as panel on international Digital Identity, more of a state of plan in Canada. Mark On 22 Oct 2024, at 17:54, Salvatore D'Agostino <sal(a)idmachines.com <mailto:sal@idmachines.com> > wrote: Hi Mark, Thanks for this information. Let's postpone the meeting tomorrow to give you time to get a draft for wg review on our next meeting 6 November. When it is available post a link to the list, and we can start talking comments. I will get the latest style guide and report format from Amanda. Do you have a copy of the slides for the presentation for the MyData conference? I see you listed as Kantara Initiative and it references the NWIP I like the other paper and panelist The landscape of consent management tools â a data altruism perspective https://publications.jrc.ec.europa.eu/repository/bitstream/JRC137572/JRC137… and Cities for Digital Rights | <https://citiesfordigitalrights.org/home> Is it the same presentation for Think Digital? Let me know if this works for you, and also the rest of the WG wrt picking up the TPI work. Sincerely, Sal From: Mark Lizar <mark(a)transparencylab.ca <mailto:mark@transparencylab.ca> > Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2024 12:33 PM To: Salvatore D'Agostino <sal(a)idmachines.com <mailto:sal@idmachines.com> > Cc: wg-ancr(a)kantarainitiative.org <mailto:wg-ancr@kantarainitiative.org> <wg-ancr(a)kantarainitiative.org <mailto:wg-ancr@kantarainitiative.org> > Subject: Re: [WG-ANCR] meeting schedule Hi Sal, Thanks for Asking, I am presenting on Thursday - in a MyData Panel virtually, as well as speaking at Westminster in the UK, where I will be presenting on digital identity in Canada, and in both promoting the ANCR TPI work, Think Digital Event Oct 24th <https://thinkdigitalpartner.zohobackstage.eu/ThinkDigitalIdentityandCyberse…> International Identity Pane - In Person at Westminster, in UK * <https://www.linkedin.com/posts/activity-7253077194153857024-o3qN?utm_source…> Linked In Post MyData Deep Dive on Consent Management Solutions ,current practices and better alternatives <https://mydata.org/event/deep-dive-workshop-consent-management-solutions-cu…> (virtual) * LinkedIn Post <https://www.linkedin.com/posts/mydata-global_deep-dive-workshop-consent-man…> Hopefully, I will get a chance to update the TPI spec before then, but itâs not easy considering my work load. Even so, I am thinking we should post the latest MVCR Specification, which actually does specify what a Minimum Viable Notice and Consent Receipt is. The real one, that is 100% inclusive, addresses surveillance capiltalism and you know, enables people to control their own data, with an exchange flow wherein people have the choice to release identifiers and personal data to a service provider govern gin the use of digital identification technology. I know itâs hard considering the limited WG bandwidth, and the scale of the work. - Mark On 22 Oct 2024, at 16:38, Salvatore D'Agostino <sal(a)idmachines.com <mailto:sal@idmachines.com> > wrote: Hi Mark, OK so the demo comes off the agenda for now, and we can focus on the TPIs. I can think of a demo of a minimally viable notice receipt at the entity level but we can leave that to a discussion in the WG where you explain this a bit more. If the meeting tomorrow is difficult that is fine, not sure what you [mean by being a guest, regrets are always accepted. When you can, can you please provide a pointer to the latest version of the TPI document for review. What is going on at Westminister, if it is relevant to the WG? Kind regards, Sal From: Mark Lizar <mark(a)transparencylab.ca <mailto:mark@transparencylab.ca> > Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2024 11:29 AM To: Salvatore D'Agostino <sal(a)idmachines.com <mailto:sal@idmachines.com> > Cc: wg-ancr(a)kantarainitiative.org <mailto:wg-ancr@kantarainitiative.org> Subject: Re: [WG-ANCR] meeting schedule Hi Sal, With regards to the demo - the issue slowing the demo down has been that while working on the demo, it led to innovation - which ushered in the new version of the specification, which then led to writing a new specification. Which means there is a bunch more work to make a real demonstration of a notice and consent receipt spec. This is what has taken way more resource time that I could feasibly provide. In addition, being in the UK this week to speak at Westminster makes it really hard for me to meet at the regular ANCR WG time. I can tentatively make the meeting tomorrow but, since I am a guest and itâs my Birthday, itâs a struggle. Best, Mark On 22 Oct 2024, at 13:46, Salvatore D'Agostino <sal(a)idmachines.com <mailto:sal@idmachines.com> > wrote: Hi WG, Gigi has resolved her schedule starting with the Nov 6 meeting, so there will be no need to poll for a new time. We will be meeting tomorrow at the normal time. Primary agenda item is the publication of the TPIs We will also discuss the Consent Receipt demo, and the normal agenda items. Kind regards, Sal IDmachines 4 Lamson Place Cambridge, MA 02139-2612 +1 617.201.4809 @idmachines https://idmachines.com <https://idmachines.com/> Please note our new address. Email, phones, other contacts remain the same. 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If you have received this email in error, please delete it and advise the sender. _______________________________________________ A Community Group mailing list of KantaraInitiative.org <http://kantarainitiative.org/> Wg-ancr mailing list -- wg-ancr(a)kantarainitiative.org <mailto:wg-ancr@kantarainitiative.org> To unsubscribe send an email to staff(a)kantarainitiative.org <mailto:staff@kantarainitiative.org> List archives -- https://mailman.kantarainitiative.org/hyperkitty/list/wg-ancr@kantarainitia… ______ Group wiki -- https://kantara.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/Wg-ancr ------=_NextPart_000_009E_01DB2486.83E6A4F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html xmlns:v=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" = xmlns:o=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" = xmlns:w=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" = xmlns:m=3D"http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml" = xmlns=3D"http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"><head><meta = http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8"><meta = name=3DGenerator content=3D"Microsoft Word 15 (filtered = medium)"><style></style></head><body lang=3DEN-US link=3Dblue = vlink=3Dpurple style=3D'word-wrap:break-word'><div = class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>Thanks Mark,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p = class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p = class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>So ok with = postponing?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p = class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>Sal<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div = style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in = 0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span><= /b><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> = Mark Lizar <mark(a)transparencylab.ca> <br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, = October 22, 2024 1:19 PM<br><b>To:</b> Salvatore D'Agostino = <sal(a)idmachines.com><br><b>Cc:</b> = wg-ancr(a)kantarainitiative.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [WG-ANCR] meeting = schedule<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p = class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Hi = Sal,  <o:p></o:p></p><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>I = am working on slides for MyData and Think Digital is as panel on = international Digital Identity, more of a state of plan in = Canada. <o:p></o:p></p></div><p = class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal>Mark<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote = style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal>On 22 Oct 2024, at 17:54, Salvatore D'Agostino <<a = href=3D"mailto:sal@idmachines.com">sal(a)idmachines.com</a>> = wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p = class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>Hi = Mark,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>Thanks for this = information.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>Let's postpone the = meeting tomorrow to give you time to get a draft for wg review on our = next meeting 6 November. When it is available post a link to the list, = and we can start talking comments. I will get the latest style guide and = report format from Amanda.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>Do you have a copy of = the slides for the presentation for the MyData conference? I see you = listed as Kantara Initiative and it references the = NWIP<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>I like the other = paper and panelist<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal><b><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>The landscape of = consent management tools =E2=80=93 a data altruism = perspective</span></b><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'><a = href=3D"https://publications.jrc.ec.europa.eu/repository/bitstream/JRC137= 572/JRC137572_01.pdf">https://publications.jrc.ec.europa.eu/repository/bi= tstream/JRC137572/JRC137572_01.pdf</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p= class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>and <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'><a = href=3D"https://citiesfordigitalrights.org/home">Cities for Digital = Rights |</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>Is it the same = presentation for Think Digital?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>Let me know if this = works for you, and also the rest of the WG wrt picking up the TPI = work.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>Sincerely,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>Sal<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div = id=3DdivRplyFwdMsg><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span><= /b><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> Mark = Lizar <<a = href=3D"mailto:mark@transparencylab.ca">mark(a)transparencylab.ca</a>><b= r><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, October 22, 2024 12:33 = PM<br><b>To:</b> Salvatore D'Agostino <<a = href=3D"mailto:sal@idmachines.com">sal(a)idmachines.com</a>><br><b>Cc:</= b> <a = href=3D"mailto:wg-ancr@kantarainitiative.org">wg-ancr(a)kantarainitiative.o= rg</a> <<a = href=3D"mailto:wg-ancr@kantarainitiative.org">wg-ancr(a)kantarainitiative.o= rg</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [WG-ANCR] meeting = schedule</span><span = style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'> = <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'> <o:p><= /o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p> <= /o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>Hi = Sal, <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p> <= /o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>Thanks for = Asking,  I am presenting on Thursday - in a MyData Panel virtually, = as well as speaking at Westminster in the UK, where I will be presenting =  on digital identity in Canada, and in both promoting the ANCR TPI = work, <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p> <= /o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><a = href=3D"https://thinkdigitalpartner.zohobackstage.eu/ThinkDigitalIdentity= andCybersecurityforGovernment#/?lang=3Den">Think Digital Event Oct = 24th</a> International Identity Pane - In Person at Westminster, in = UK<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>*<a = href=3D"https://www.linkedin.com/posts/activity-7253077194153857024-o3qN?= utm_source=3Dshare&utm_medium=3Dmember_desktop"> Linked In = Post</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p> <= /o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><a = href=3D"https://mydata.org/event/deep-dive-workshop-consent-management-so= lutions-current-practice-and-better-alternatives/">MyData Deep Dive on = Consent Management Solutions ,current practices and better = alternatives<span = class=3Dapple-converted-space> </span></a> (virtual)<o:p></o:p>= </span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>*<span = class=3Dapple-converted-space> </span><a = href=3D"https://www.linkedin.com/posts/mydata-global_deep-dive-workshop-c= onsent-management-solutions-activity-7254435766313902080-mAsK?utm_source=3D= share&utm_medium=3Dmember_desktop">LinkedIn = Post </a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p = class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>Hopefully, = I will get a chance to update the TPI spec before then, but it=E2=80=99s = not easy considering my work load.   Even so,  I am thinking = we should post the latest MVCR Specification, which actually does = specify what a Minimum Viable Notice and Consent Receipt is.   The = real one, that is 100% inclusive, addresses surveillance capiltalism and = you know, enables people to control their own data, with an exchange = flow wherein people have the choice to release identifiers and personal = data to a service provider govern gin the use of digital identification = technology.  <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p> <= /o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>I know = it=E2=80=99s hard considering the limited WG bandwidth, and the scale of = the work.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p> <= /o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>- = Mark <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p> <= /o:p></span></p></div><blockquote = style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt;caret-color: rgb(0, 0, = 0);font-variant-caps: normal;text-align:start;-webkit-text-stroke-width: = 0px;word-spacing:0px'><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>On 22 Oct = 2024, at 16:38, Salvatore D'Agostino <<a = href=3D"mailto:sal@idmachines.com">sal(a)idmachines.com</a>> = wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p> <= /o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>Hi = Mark,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p = class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>OK so the demo comes = off the agenda for now, and we can focus on the TPIs. I can think of a = demo of a minimally viable notice receipt at the entity level but we can = leave that to a discussion in the WG where you explain this a bit = more.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p = class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>If the meeting = tomorrow is difficult that is fine, not sure what you mean by being a = guest, regrets are always accepted.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p = class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p = class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>When you can, can you = please provide a pointer to the latest version of the TPI document for = review.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p = class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>What is going on at = Westminister, if it is relevant to the WG?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p = class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p = class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>Kind = regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>Sal<o:p></o:p></span></p><p = class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div = style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in = 0in 0in;border-color:currentcolor currentcolor'><p = class=3DMsoNormal><b><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span><= /b><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> Mark = Lizar <<a = href=3D"mailto:mark@transparencylab.ca">mark(a)transparencylab.ca</a>>&n= bsp;<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, October 22, 2024 11:29 = AM<br><b>To:</b> Salvatore D'Agostino <<a = href=3D"mailto:sal@idmachines.com">sal(a)idmachines.com</a>><br><b>Cc:</= b> <a = href=3D"mailto:wg-ancr@kantarainitiative.org">wg-ancr(a)kantarainitiative.o= rg</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [WG-ANCR] meeting = schedule<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p = class=3DMsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Hi Sal, =  <o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p = class=3DMsoNormal>With regards to the demo - the issue slowing the demo = down has been that while working on the demo, it led to innovation - = which ushered in the new version of the specification,  which then = led to writing a new specification.  Which means there is a bunch = more work to make a real demonstration of a notice and consent receipt = spec.  <o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p = class=3DMsoNormal>This is what has taken way more resource time that I = could feasibly provide.  In addition, being in the UK this week to = speak at Westminster makes it really hard for me to meet at the regular = ANCR WG time.   I can tentatively make the meeting  tomorrow = but, since I am a guest and it=E2=80=99s my Birthday, it=E2=80=99s a = struggle. <o:p></o:p></p><p = class=3DMsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p = class=3DMsoNormal>Best,<o:p></o:p></p><p = class=3DMsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p = class=3DMsoNormal>Mark<o:p></o:p></p><p = class=3DMsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><blockquote = style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=3DMsoNormal>On = 22 Oct 2024, at 13:46, Salvatore D'Agostino <<u><span = style=3D'color:blue'><a = href=3D"mailto:sal@idmachines.com">sal(a)idmachines.com</a></span></u>> = wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p = class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>Hi = WG,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p = class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>Gigi has resolved her = schedule starting with the Nov 6 meeting, so there will be no need to = poll for a new time.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p = class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>We will be meeting = tomorrow at the normal time.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p = class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p = class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>Primary agenda item = is the publication of the TPIs<o:p></o:p></span></p><p = class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p = class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>We will also discuss = the Consent Receipt demo, and the normal agenda = items.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p = class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>Kind = regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>Sal<o:p></o:p></span></p><p = class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p = class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>IDmachines<o:p></o:p></span></p><p = class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>4 Lamson = Place<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>Cambridge, MA = 02139-2612<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>+1 617.201.4809<o:p></o:p></span></p><p = class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>@idmachines<o:p></o:p></span></p><p = class=3DMsoNormal><u><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;color:blue'><a = href=3D"https://idmachines.com/">https://idmachines.com</a></span></u><sp= an style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;color:blue'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p = class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p = class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>Please note our new = address. 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meeting schedule
by Salvatore D'Agostino 22 Oct '24

22 Oct '24

Hi WG, Gigi has resolved her schedule starting with the Nov 6 meeting, so there will be no need to poll for a new time. We will be meeting tomorrow at the normal time. Primary agenda item is the publication of the TPIs We will also discuss the Consent Receipt demo, and the normal agenda items. Kind regards, Sal IDmachines 4 Lamson Place Cambridge, MA 02139-2612 +1 617.201.4809 @idmachines https://idmachines.com<https://idmachines.com/> Please note our new address. Email, phones, other contacts remain the same. Disclaimer The information contained in this communication from the sender is confidential. It is intended solely for use by the recipient and others authorized to receive it. If you are not the recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or taking action in relation of the contents of this information is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this email in error, please delete it and advise the sender.

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Fw: [WG-PEMC] Reminder: No PEMC call today
by Salvatore D'Agostino 21 Oct '24

21 Oct '24

PEMC Kantara Recommendation out for Public Comment Here is the document that is out for review. I suggest we review any comments in the WG, but that is only a suggestion, any Kantara member or WG member is free to comment. Kind regards, Sal ________________________________ From: John Wunderlich <john(a)wunderlich.ca> Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2024 10:22 AM To: WG PEMC <wg-pemc(a)kantarainitiative.org> Subject: [WG-PEMC] Reminder: No PEMC call today The draft recommendations are out for comment. Please share with your stakeholders that might want to comment. You can see the Disposition of Comments here: Disposition of Comments: PICPR20241010 - Privacy Enhancing Mobile Credentials (PEMC) - Kantara Initiative<https://kantara.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/PEMCP/pages/683999246/Disposition…> Have a better than expected day, John Wunderlich LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/privacycdn/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/PrivacyCDN This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. If you are not the intended recipient you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited.

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ISO / IEC - 29100:Updated now available publicly
by Mark Lizar 13 Oct '24

13 Oct '24

<https://standards.iso.org/ittf/PubliclyAvailableStandards> standards.iso.org<https://standards.iso.org/ittf/PubliclyAvailableStandards> [X]<https://standards.iso.org/ittf/PubliclyAvailableStandards> Mark Lizar Executive Director @ the Global Privacy Rights Company

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Agenda for call today
by Salvatore D'Agostino 08 Oct '24

08 Oct '24

Hi WG, Here is the draft agenda for the call today at Noon Eastern Daylight Time. ANCR WG 20240911 draft - WG - ANCR - Kantara Initiative (atlassian.net)<https://kantara.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/WA/pages/640974862/ANCR+WG+202409…> Here are the meeting instructions and dial in: Join Zoom Meeting<https://us06web.zoom.us/j/87282263538?pwd=K0RwY1g1b3pKeHdBcXpjeExVZUFpQT09> Meeting ID: 872 8226 3538 Passcode: 255697 See you then. Best, Sal PS, I am traveling and hope to be set up back in my room for this call, bear with me in this regard. IDmachines 4 Lamson Place Cambridge, MA 02139-2612 +1 617.201.4809 @idmachines https://idmachines.com<https://idmachines.com/> Please note our new address. Email, phones, other contacts remain the same. Disclaimer The information contained in this communication from the sender is confidential. It is intended solely for use by the recipient and others authorized to receive it. If you are not the recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or taking action in relation of the contents of this information is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this email in error, please delete it and advise the sender.

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cancel call (unsigned)
by Salvatore D'Agostino 25 Sep '24

25 Sep '24

Hi WG, Sorry for the duplicate message, this one unsigned. Several of us are traveling today. Please let me know if you have any concerns about the cancellation. We will meet again in two weeks. Keep an eye on the listserve for updates. Best, Sal IDmachines 4 Lamson Place Cambridge, MA 02139-2612 +1 617.201.4809 @idmachines https://idmachines.com<https://idmachines.com/> Please note our new address. Email, phones, other contacts remain the same. Disclaimer The information contained in this communication from the sender is confidential. It is intended solely for use by the recipient and others authorized to receive it. If you are not the recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or taking action in relation of the contents of this information is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this email in error, please delete it and advise the sender.

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