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Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00CB_01DB2490.B0AC8B30" This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00CB_01DB2490.B0AC8B30 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit ‚Let’s focus on the TPIs, and see to what extent MVCR v2 is required, imo. From: Team @DT-Lab <info@transparencylab.ca> Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2024 2:27 PM To: Salvatore D'Agostino <sal@idmachines.com> Cc: wg-ancr@kantarainitiative.org Subject: Re: Posting MVCR v2 - Re: [WG-ANCR] meeting schedule Hi Sal, Yes please post-pone. Also, is it a good idea to work on the TPI spec a bit now, as well as post the MVCR v2, on the wiki? My thinking is that this way it can at least be shared under Kantara IPR and promoted as a global digital trust standard, and also posted at Global Privacy Rights, with the same Kantara IPR. The only down side is that companies like One Trust who have patented consent receipt management are likely to take this specification and do the same thing, Another issue to consider is that gen AI scrapping is a big problem. One solution could be to post a light version of the spec publicly and keep the whole thing under membership access only, although, i dont think is likely not a solution to this problem as genAI is native to confluence now. Anyone have any thoughts? Best, Mark PS I am trying to send this again, as it has bounced, Thanks Mark, So ok with postponing? Sal From: Mark Lizar <mark@transparencylab.ca <mailto:mark@transparencylab.ca> > Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2024 1:19 PM To: Salvatore D'Agostino <sal@idmachines.com <mailto:sal@idmachines.com> > Cc: wg-ancr@kantarainitiative.org <mailto:wg-ancr@kantarainitiative.org> Subject: Re: [WG-ANCR] meeting schedule Hi Sal, I am working on slides for MyData and Think Digital is as panel on international Digital Identity, more of a state of plan in Canada. Mark On 22 Oct 2024, at 17:54, Salvatore D'Agostino <sal@idmachines.com <mailto:sal@idmachines.com> > wrote: Hi Mark, Thanks for this information. Let's postpone the meeting tomorrow to give you time to get a draft for wg review on our next meeting 6 November. When it is available post a link to the list, and we can start talking comments. I will get the latest style guide and report format from Amanda. Do you have a copy of the slides for the presentation for the MyData conference? I see you listed as Kantara Initiative and it references the NWIP I like the other paper and panelist The landscape of consent management tools – a data altruism perspective https://publications.jrc.ec.europa.eu/repository/bitstream/JRC137572/JRC1375... and Cities for Digital Rights | <https://citiesfordigitalrights.org/home> Is it the same presentation for Think Digital? Let me know if this works for you, and also the rest of the WG wrt picking up the TPI work. Sincerely, Sal From: Mark Lizar <mark@transparencylab.ca <mailto:mark@transparencylab.ca> > Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2024 12:33 PM To: Salvatore D'Agostino <sal@idmachines.com <mailto:sal@idmachines.com> > Cc: wg-ancr@kantarainitiative.org <mailto:wg-ancr@kantarainitiative.org> <wg-ancr@kantarainitiative.org <mailto:wg-ancr@kantarainitiative.org> > Subject: Re: [WG-ANCR] meeting schedule Hi Sal, Thanks for Asking, I am presenting on Thursday - in a MyData Panel virtually, as well as speaking at Westminster in the UK, where I will be presenting on digital identity in Canada, and in both promoting the ANCR TPI work, Think Digital Event Oct 24th <https://thinkdigitalpartner.zohobackstage.eu/ThinkDigitalIdentityandCybersecurityforGovernment#/?lang=en> International Identity Pane - In Person at Westminster, in UK * Linked In Post <https://www.linkedin.com/posts/activity-7253077194153857024-o3qN> MyData Deep Dive on Consent Management Solutions ,current practices and better alternatives <https://mydata.org/event/deep-dive-workshop-consent-management-solutions-current-practice-and-better-alternatives/> (virtual) * LinkedIn Post <https://www.linkedin.com/posts/mydata-global_deep-dive-workshop-consent-management-solutions-activity-725443‚5766313902080-mAsK> Hopefully, I will get a chance to update the TPI spec before then, but it’s not easy considering my work load. Even so, I am thinking we should post the latest MVCR Specification, which actually does specify what a Minimum Viable Notice and Consent Receipt is. The real one, that is 100% inclusive, addresses surveillance capiltalism and you know, enables people to control their own data, with an exchange flow wherein people have the choice to release identifiers and personal data to a service provider govern gin the use of digital identification technology. I know it’s hard considering the limited WG bandwidth, and the scale of the work. - Mark On 22 Oct 2024, at 16:38, Salvatore D'Agostino <sal@idmachines.com <mailto:sal@idmachines.com> > wrote: Hi Mark, OK so the demo comes off the agenda for now, and we can focus on the TPIs. I can think of a demo of a minimally viable notice receipt at the entity level but we can leave that to a discussion in the WG where you explain this a bit more. If the meeting tomorrow is difficult that is fine, not sure what you mean by being a guest, regrets are always accepted. When you can, can you please provide a pointer to the latest version of the TPI document for review. What is going on at Westminister, if it is relevant to the WG? Kind regards, Sal From: Mark Lizar <mark@transparencylab.ca <mailto:mark@transparencylab.ca> > Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2024 11:29 AM To: Salvatore D'Agostino <sal@idmachines.com <mailto:sal@idmachines.com> > Cc: wg-ancr@kantarainitiative.org <mailto:wg-ancr@kantarainitiative.org> Subject: Re: [WG-ANCR] meeting schedule Hi Sal, With regards to the demo - the issue slowing the demo down has been that while working on the demo, it led to innovation - which ushered in the new version of the specification, which then led to writing a new specification. Which means there is a bunch more work to make a real demonstration of a notice and consent receipt spec. This is what has taken way more resource time that I could feasibly provide. In addition, being in the UK this week to speak at Westminster makes it really hard for me to meet at the regular ANCR WG time. I can tentatively make the meeting tomorrow but, since I am a guest and it’s my Birthday, it’s a struggle. Best, Mark On 22 Oct 2024, at 13:46, Salvatore D'Agostino <sal@idmachines.com <mailto:sal@idmachines.com> > wrote: Hi WG, Gigi has resolved her schedule starting with the Nov 6 meeting, so there will be no need to poll for a new time. We will be meeting tomorrow at the normal time. Primary agenda item is the publication of the TPIs We will also discuss the Consent Receipt demo, and the normal agenda items. Kind regards, Sal IDmachines 4 Lamson Place Cambridge, MA 02139-2612 +1 617.201.4809 @idmachines https://idmachines.com <https://idmachines.com/> Please note our new address. Email, phones, other contacts remain the same. 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If you have received this email in error, please delete it and advise the sender. _______________________________________________ A Community Group mailing list of KantaraInitiative.org <http://kantarainitiative.org/> Wg-ancr mailing list -- wg-ancr@kantarainitiative.org <mailto:wg-ancr@kantarainitiative.org> To unsubscribe send an email to staff@kantarainitiative.org <mailto:staff@kantarainitiative.org> List archives -- https://mailman.kantarainitiative.org/hyperkitty/list/wg-ancr@kantarainitiat... ______ Group wiki -- https://kantara.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/Wg-ancr Mark Lizar Exêecutive Director 0PN Identity Transparency Lab & the Global Privacy Rights Company ------=_NextPart_000_00CB_01DB2490.B0AC8B30 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ‚<html xmlns:v=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" = xmlns:o=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" = xmlns:w=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" = 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{mso-style-type:personal-reply; font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif; color:windowtext;} .MsoChpDefault {mso-style-type:export-only;} @page WordSection1 {size:8.5in 11.0in; margin:1.0in 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in;} div.WordSection1 {page:WordSection1;} --></style><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <o:shapedefaults v:ext=3D"edit" spidmax=3D"1026" /> </xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <o:shapelayout v:ext=3D"edit"> <o:idmap v:ext=3D"edit" data=3D"1" /> </o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=3DEN-US link=3Dblue = vlink=3Dpurple style=3D'word-wrap:break-word'><div = class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>Let=E2=80=99s focus on the TPIs, and see to = what extent MVCR v2 is required, imo.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p = class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div = style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in = 0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span><= /b><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> = Team @DT-Lab <info@transparencylab.ca> <br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, = October 22, 2024 2:27 PM<br><b>To:</b> Salvatore D'Agostino = <sal@idmachines.com><br><b>Cc:</b> = wg-ancr@kantarainitiative.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: Posting MVCR v2 - = Re: [WG-ANCR] meeting schedule<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p = class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><blockquote = style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><div><blockquote= style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Hi = Sal, </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Yes = please  post-pone.  </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Also,  is = it a good idea to work on the TPI spec a bit now, as well as post the = MVCR v2, on the wiki?  My thinking is that this way it can at least = be shared under Kantara IPR and promoted as a global digital trust = standard, and also posted at  Global Privacy Rights, with the same = Kantara IPR. </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>The only down = side is that companies like One Trust who have patented consent receipt = management are likely to take this specification and do the same = thing,  Another issue to consider is that gen AI scrapping is a big = problem.   </span‚><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>One solution = could be to post a light version of the spec publicly and keep the whole = thing under membership access only, although, i dont think is likely not = a solution to this problem as  genAI is native to confluence = now.  </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Anyone have = any thoughts?  </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Best,</span><o:= p></o:p></p></div><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Mark</span><o:p= style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>PS  I am = trying to send this again, as it has = bounced, </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p = class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>Thanks = Mark,</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>So ok with = postponing?</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>Sal</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div = style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in = 0in 0in;border-color:currentcolor currentcolor;border-image: = none'><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span><= /b><span class=3Dapple-converted-space><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> = </span></span><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Mark Lizar = <<a = href=3D"mailto:mark@transparencylab.ca">mark@transparencylab.ca</a>><s= pan class=3Dapple-converted-space> </span><br><b>Sent:</b><span = class=3Dapple-converted-space> </span>Tuesday, October 22, 2024 1:19 = PM<br><b>To:</b><span class=3Dapple-converted-space> </span>Salvatore = D'Agostino <<a = href=3D"mailto:sal@idmachines.com">sal@idmachines.com</a>><br><b>Cc:</= b><span class=3Dapple-converted-space> </span><a = href=3D"mailto:wg-ancr@kantarainitiative.org">wg-ancr@kantarainitiative.o= rg</a><br><b>Subject:</b><span class=3Dapple-converted-space> </span>Re: = [WG-ANCR] meeting = schedule</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal>Hi Sal, <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal>I am working on slides for MyData and Think Digital is = as panel on international Digital Identity, more of a state of plan in = Canada. <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal>Mark<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal = style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><blockquote = style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal>On 22 Oct 2024, at 17:54, Salvatore D'Agostino <<a = href=3D"mailto:sal@idmachines.com">sal@idmachines.com</a>> = wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>Hi = Mark,</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>Thanks for this = information.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>Let's postpone the = meeting tomorrow to give you time to get a draft for wg review on our = next meeting 6 November. When it is available post a link to the list, = and we can start talking comments. I will get the latest style guide and = report format from Am‚anda.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>Do you have a copy of = the slides for the presentation for the MyData conference? I see you = listed as Kantara Initiative and it references the = NWIP</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>I like the other = paper and panelist</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal><b><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>The landscape of = consent management tools =E2=80=93 a data altruism = perspective</span></b><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'><a = href=3D"https://publications.jrc.ec.europa.eu/repository/bitstream/JRC137= 572/JRC137572_01.pdf" = target=3D"_blank">https://publications.jrc.ec.europa.eu/repository/bitstr= eam/JRC137572/JRC137572_01.pdf</a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div>= <div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>and = </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'><a = href=3D"https://citiesfordigitalrights.org/home" = target=3D"_blank">Cities for Digital Rights = |</a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>Is it the same = presentation for Think = Digital?</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>Let me know if this = works for you, and also the rest of the WG wrt picking up the TPI = work.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>Sincerely,</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><d= iv><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>Sal</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div = id=3DdivRplyFwdMsg><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span><= /b><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> = Mark Lizar <<a = href=3D"mailto:mark@transparencylab.ca">mark@transparencylab.ca</a>><b= r><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, October 22, 2024 12:33 PM<br><b>To:</b> = Salvatore D'Agostino <<a = href=3D"mailto:sal@idmachines.com">sal@idmachines.com</a>><br><b>Cc:</= b> <a = href=3D"mailto:wg-ancr@kantarainitiative.org">wg-ancr@kantarainitiative.o= rg</a><span class=3Dapple-converted-space> </span><<a = href=3D"mailto:wg-ancr@kantarainitiative.org">wg-ancr@kantarainitiative.o= rg</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [WG-ANCR] meeting = schedule</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>Hi Sal, = </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>Thanks for = Asking, I am presenting on Thursday - in a MyData Panel virtually, as = well as speaking at Westminster in the UK, where I will be presenting on = digital identity in Canada, and in both promoting the ANCR TPI work, = </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><a = href=3D"https://thinkdigitalpartner.zohobackstage.eu/ThinkDigitalIdentity= andCybersecurityforGovernment#/?lang=3Den" target=3D"_blank">Think = Digital Event Oct 24th</a> International Identity Pane - In Person at = Westminster, in UK</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>*<a = href=3D"https://www.linkedin.com/posts/activity-7253077194153857024-o3qN"= target=3D"_blank"> Linked In = Post</a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><a = href=3D"https://mydata.org/event/deep-dive-workshop-consent-management-so= lutions-current-practice-and-better-alternatives/" = target=3D"_blank">MyData Deep Dive on Consent Management S‚olutions = ,current practices and better alternatives<span = class=3Dapple-converted-space> = </span></a>(virtual)</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>*<span = class=3Dapple-converted-space> </span><a = href=3D"https://www.linkedin.com/posts/mydata-global_deep-dive-workshop-c= onsent-management-solutions-activity-7254435766313902080-mAsK" = target=3D"_blank">LinkedIn Post = </a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>Hopefully, = I will get a chance to update the TPI spec before then, but it=E2=80=99s = not easy considering my work load. Even so, I am thinking we should post = the latest MVCR Specification, which actually does specify what a = Minimum Viable Notice and Consent Receipt is. The real one, that is 100% = inclusive, addresses surveillance capiltalism and you know, enables = people to control their own data, with an exchange flow wherein people = have the choice to release identifiers and personal data to a service = provider govern gin the use of digital identification technology. = </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>I know = it=E2=80=99s hard considering the limited WG bandwidth, and the scale of = the work.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>- Mark = </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><blockquote = style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt;caret-color: rgb(0, 0, = 0);font-variant-caps: normal;text-align:start;-webkit-text-stroke-width: = 0px;word-spacing:0px'><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>On 22 Oct = 2024, at 16:38, Salvatore D'Agostino <<a = href=3D"mailto:sal@idmachines.com">sal@idmachines.com</a>> = wrote:</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>Hi Mark,</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>OK so the demo comes = off the agenda for now, and we can focus on the TPIs. I can think of a = demo of a minimally viable notice receipt at the entity level but we can = leave that to a discussion in the WG where you explain this a bit = more.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>If the meeting tomorrow is difficult that is = fine, not sure what you mean by being a guest, regrets are always = accepted.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>When you can, can you please provide a = pointer to the latest version of the TPI document for = review.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>What is going on at Westminister, if it is = relevant to the WG?</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>Kind = regards,</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>Sal</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div = style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in = 0in 0in;border-image: none;border-color:currentcolor'><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal><b><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span><= /b><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> = Mark Lizar <<a = href=3D"mailto:mark@transparencylab.ca">mark@transparencylab.ca</a>> = <br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, October 22, 2024 11:29 AM<br><b>To:</b> = Salvatore D'Agostino <<a = href=3D"mailto:sal@idmachines.com">sal@idmachines.com</a>><br><b>Cc:</= b> <a = href=3D"mailto:wg-ancr@kantarainitiative.org">wg-ancr@kantarainitiative.o= rg</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [WG-ANCR] meeting = schedule</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>H‚i = Sal, <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>With regards to the = demo - the issue slowing the demo down has been that while working on = the demo, it led to innovation - which ushered in the new version of the = specification, which then led to writing a new specification. Which = means there is a bunch more work to make a real demonstration of a = notice and consent receipt spec. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal>This is what has taken way more resource time that I = could feasibly provide. In addition, being in the UK this week to speak = at Westminster makes it really hard for me to meet at the regular ANCR = WG time. I can tentatively make the meeting tomorrow but, since I am a = guest and it=E2=80=99s my Birthday, it=E2=80=99s a struggle. = <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal>Best,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal>Mark<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote = style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal>On 22 Oct 2024, at 13:46, Salvatore D'Agostino = <<u><span style=3D'color:blue'><a = href=3D"mailto:sal@idmachines.com">sal@idmachines.com</a></span></u>> = wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>Hi WG,</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>Gigi has resolved her = schedule starting with the Nov 6 meeting, so there will be no need to = poll for a new time.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>We will be meeting = tomorrow at the normal time.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>Primary agenda item = is the publication of the TPIs</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>We will also discuss = the Consent Receipt demo, and the normal agenda = items.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>Kind = regards,</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>Sal</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>IDmachines</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>4 Lamson = Place</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>Cambridge, MA = 02139-2612</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>+1 = 617.201.4809</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>@idmachines</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p= class=3DMsoNormal><u><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;color:blue'><a = href=3D"https://idmachines.com/" = target=3D"_blank">https://idmachines.com</a></span></u><o:p></o:p></p></d= iv><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>Please = note our new address. 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