On another note, I a look for what to call the profiles, as I think the vectors of governance, levels of assurance, are accompanies by digital privacy category/security profile which inlcude

Essentially for lack of a better word I refer to these as profiles, but what I am getting at is that human centric  privacy is about control over the scope of disclosure, not data protection.  It’s really about consented surveillance scope, and the ore assurances of that scope, the more trusted the environment is - to share data.  Knowing that the data can not be disclosed without notification is critical. 

 Here  are the scope/profiles, 

1. Hyperlocal - e.g. sexual consent - 
2. Child 
3. Youth
4. Community
5. Regional
6 National 
7. International 

Does anyone have a better name for these ?  Digital Privacy Scope as a Security Profile ? 

- m


On 5 Nov 2023, at 14:11, Mark Lizar <mark@transparencylab.ca> wrote:

Interesting idea, 

Thats a different TPI - used when there already is a RoPA - although in general - RoPA -Transparency is a good topic.  

On 5 Nov 2023, at 12:16, Salvatore D'Agostino <sal@idmachines.com> wrote:

Or…
 
RoPA Transparency (RoPAT) which is the result of the assessment.
 
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So for me transparency provides a means of measuring the RoPA, transparency as a requirement of a RoPA, whereas today they exists without a record for the performance.
 
Given the term RoPA has legal heft why would be modify it, imo we should leverage, define, enhance the requirement.
 
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“ROT - Pa” doesn’t exactly roll off the tongue. And starting the acronym with “ROT” doesn’t present positive connotations.
 
Grammatically, it’s also is backward and therefore unintuitive — like a “privacy impact assessment” is backward. The title actually means that it’s an assessment of the impact that privacy has, which is the exact opposite of what it is and ought to be — an assessment of the impact upon privacy that something might have. 
 
How about Processing Activity Record of Transparency — PART— or Privacy Processing Activity Record of Transparency — PPART.
 
my 2c
 
 
On Nov 5, 2023, at 5:27 AM, Mark Lizar <mark@transparencylab.ca> wrote:
 
.  Perhaps we should refer to this as a Digital Privacy  Record of Transparent Processing Activity (RoTPA)   ? 

 

On 3 Nov 2023, at 18:30, Salvatore D'Agostino <sal@idmachines.com> wrote:
 
Yes RoPA!
 
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Nice Job Sal, 

I noticed that there is little to no awareness of notice standards, that we can move beyond clear and simple language, addressing the dark patterns.  Perhaps we can work on this?  Refer to 29184 and 27560 and the DPV, which can be used on or for records of processing,  And  that the digital transparency indicators assess these elements privacy elements in security. 

What do you think?
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