Hi Andrew,

This for contributing so requirements, this is helpful.  The call today as you surmise,  was to exploring the development of an assurance program proposal, and to make a list of actions to move towards the exploration.   Although, there is no claim of a program or any representation to industry. 
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Meeting minutes are here 

- Mark

On 6 Mar 2024, at 14:30, Andrew Hughes <andrewhughes3000@gmail.com> wrote:

Before you get too far ahead of yourself, you really need to create a plan and have a business discussion with Kantara. As far as I'm aware, this has not happened yet - and to avoid misunderstandings with respect to what Kantara wil or will not invest in, you should be prepared to answer some fundamental questions before declaring that Kantara has some sort of new assurance program in the works.

Do you have a business plan to support creation of an assurance program?
Do you have market information to confirm that organizations would pay for certification?
Is your intellectual property clean? (i.e. Have you accepted contributions from outside of the Kantara IPR Option Opt-out to RAND while working on this in other organizations/consortia?)

Unless you are authorized to represent Kantara's business interests, you really cannot talk about Kantara's anything Program - that's the core commercial aspect of Kantara as a non-profit corporation. Work Groups are not the same thing as Kantara as a corporate entity.

Are the Age Assurance people aware that you have not secured the backing of Kantara for whatever it is you are proposing?

I'm trying to find your ANCR meeting minutes to see how broadly this work is supported, and from what I can see it is you, Sal and Gigi working on this - which is pretty light. Especially since, as far as I know, you and Sal are business partners who have a commercial interest in creating something.
Is there more that Kantara should be aware of?

andrew.
Chair, Kantara Initiative Board of Directors

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On Wed, Mar 6, 2024 at 10:20 AM MarkL <mark@0pn.org> wrote:
Hi All,

In the ANCR WG meeting we discussed making this a regular call to work on the ANCR Assurance Program & Committee.   Expect some spider-diagrams in the near future.

We look at how a Kantara ANCR Assurance Program could enable the certification of Registrars, running controller credential and receipt notary services.  The aim is to have something presented prior to the April 12 Meeting in Manchester on Age Assurance, where we will be presenting the consent receipt - Transparency Performance Scheme and the 0PN-Digital Privacy Program for the Age Assurance industry.

If you are interested, the next call on this topic will be in two weeks,

Best,

Mark

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