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Revised CompAlt draft criteria
by Richard G. WILSHER (＠Zygma Inc.) 14 Mar '24

14 Mar '24

Following today's discussions, I attach a slightly revised and much tidied draft offering. It is still '63A'-bound but that's just a tag change to make them no-specific to 63A_SAC. Additionally, they are still specific to evidence processing and in that context the additional criteria 63A#0190 and '#0210 would still be required. If we go for a generic set of criteria I think we're going to have to think about how to identify those criteria which are being treated comparatively and how to identify each case of justification for the CompAlt solution. That is, there may be multiple instances of individual cases of CompAlt, and certainly there is no prior expectation of where they might apply, so how do they get related to the criterion/criteria for which they are intended to be alternative? I'm wondering whether this isn't best accomplished by a new SoCA status, "CompAlt - see <ref.>", where ref is some pointer to a specific CompAlt justification (we also need to work out how to have these described in a consistent manner). The benefit of this approach is that any potential user could see immediately (because the SoCA is published) whether a service employed any CompAlt. The choice seems to be between a readily-defined set of additional CompAlt criteria for specific application, versus generic criteria which may require additional supporting mechanisms (presuming in each of those choices that we are committed to CompAlt). Richard G. WILSHER CEO & Founder, Zygma Inc. www.Zygma.biz +1 714 797 9942

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Join Us in One Hour - IAWG Call - 2024.03.14
by Amanda Gay 14 Mar '24

14 Mar '24

Dear IAWG Members: Please join us in an hour for our next IAWG meeting. The proposed agenda and Zoom details are below. *Date and Time* - *Date: Thursday, 2024-03-14* - *Time: 9:00 PT | 12:00 ET (**time zone calculator* <https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html>*)* - Please join the meeting from your computer, tablet or smartphone: https://zoom.us/j/93167965850?pwd=dldoT0hYK1k4MkVGYkQ3TkNqdG1Idz09 - Meeting ID: 931 6796 5850 - Passcode: 884696 - You can also dial in using your phone. Find your local number: https://zoom.us/u/aeg9vt8LSr <https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fzoom.us%2Fu%2FabUx61ivsc&sa=D&us…> - Need to add IAWG meetings to your calendar? Do so here! <https://kantara.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/IAWG/overview> DRAFT Agenda 03.14.2024 1. Administration: - Roll call, determination of quorum. - Minutes approval - 2024-02-22 DRAFT Minutes <https://kantara.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/IAWG/pages/edit-v2/378994704?draf…> - 2024-02-29 DRAFT Minutes <https://kantara.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/IAWG/pages/385482904/2024-02-29+D…> - Kantara Updates - Assurance Updates 2. IAWG Actions/Reminders/Updates: 3. Discussion: - Richard Wilsher - Interpretation of criteria <https://kantara.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/IAWG/pages/353632257/2024+Meeting…> - Continue discussion on second criteria question #0180 (superior v. strong evidence) with an updated version of Richard’s proposed alternative/comparable criteria <https://kantara.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/IAWG/pages/353632257/2024+Meeting…> (sent 2024.02.22) - Review a clean copy of Yehoshua’s draft of criteria #1810 <https://kantara.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/IAWG/pages/353632257/2024+Meeting…> (multi-factor authentication) 4. Any Other Business -- *Amanda Gay | **Administrative** Coordinator* *Twitter:* @KantaraNews *LinkedIn:* @KantaraInitiative

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CANCELED - NO IAWG Call Today (2024.03.07)
by Amanda Gay 07 Mar '24

07 Mar '24

Just a reminder: There will be no IAWG call today. We will regroup next week. Please send any items for the agenda! Best, -Amanda -- *Amanda Gay | **Administrative** Coordinator* *Twitter:* @KantaraNews *LinkedIn:* @KantaraInitiative

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CANCELED - IAWG Call - 2024-03 -07
by Amanda Gay 05 Mar '24

05 Mar '24

Good morning all: There will be no IAWG call this week. We will regroup next week. Please send any items for the agenda! Best, -Amanda -- *Amanda Gay | **Administrative** Coordinator* *Twitter:* @KantaraNews *LinkedIn:* @KantaraInitiative

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Join Us in One Hour - IAWG Call - 2024-02-29
by Amanda Gay 29 Feb '24

29 Feb '24

Dear IAWG Members: Please join us in an hour for our next IAWG meeting. The proposed agenda and Zoom details are below. *Date and Time* - *Date: Thursday, 2024-02-29* - *Time: 9:00 PT | 12:00 ET (**time zone calculator* <https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html>*)* - Please join the meeting from your computer, tablet or smartphone: https://zoom.us/j/93167965850?pwd=dldoT0hYK1k4MkVGYkQ3TkNqdG1Idz09 - Meeting ID: 931 6796 5850 - Passcode: 884696 - You can also dial in using your phone. Find your local number: https://zoom.us/u/aeg9vt8LSr <https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fzoom.us%2Fu%2FabUx61ivsc&sa=D&us…> - Need to add IAWG meetings to your calendar? Do so here! <https://kantara.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/IAWG/overview> Agenda 02.29.2024 1. Administration: - Roll call, determination of quorum. - Minutes approval - 2024-02-22 DRAFT Minutes <https://kantara.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/IAWG/pages/edit-v2/378994704?draf…> - Kantara Updates - Assurance Updates 2. IAWG Actions/Reminders/Updates: 3. Discussion: - Richard Wilsher - Interpretation of criteria <https://kantara.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/IAWG/pages/353632257/2024+Meeting…> - Continue discussion on second criteria question #0180 (superior v. strong evidence) with an updated version of Richard’s proposed alternative/comparable criteria <https://kantara.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/IAWG/pages/353632257/2024+Meeting…> (sent 2024.02.22) - Review a clean copy of Yehoshua’s draft of criteria #1810 <https://kantara.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/IAWG/pages/353632257/2024+Meeting…> (multi-factor authentication) 4. Any Other Business -- *Amanda Gay | **Administrative** Coordinator* *Twitter:* @KantaraNews *LinkedIn:* @KantaraInitiative

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Invitation & Agenda for IAWG Call 2023-02-29
by Amanda Gay 27 Feb '24

27 Feb '24

Dear IAWG Members: Please join us Thursday, February 29th, at 12PM ET for our next IAWG meeting. The proposed agenda and Zoom details are below. *Date and Time* - *Date: Thursday, 2024-02-29* - *Time: 9:00 PT | 12:00 ET (**time zone calculator* <https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html>*)* - Please join the meeting from your computer, tablet or smartphone: https://zoom.us/j/93167965850?pwd=dldoT0hYK1k4MkVGYkQ3TkNqdG1Idz09 - Meeting ID: 931 6796 5850 - Passcode: 884696 - You can also dial in using your phone. Find your local number: https://zoom.us/u/aeg9vt8LSr <https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fzoom.us%2Fu%2FabUx61ivsc&sa=D&us…> - Need to add IAWG meetings to your calendar? Do so here! <https://kantara.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/IAWG/overview> Agenda 02.29.2024 1. Administration: - Roll call, determination of quorum. - Minutes approval - 2024-02-22 DRAFT Minutes <https://kantara.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/IAWG/pages/edit-v2/378994704?draf…> - Kantara Updates - Assurance Updates 2. IAWG Actions/Reminders/Updates: 3. Discussion: - Richard Wilsher - Interpretation of criteria <https://kantara.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/IAWG/pages/353632257/2024+Meeting…> - Continue discussion on second criteria question #0180 (superior v. strong evidence) with an updated version of Richard’s proposed alternative/comparable criteria <https://kantara.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/IAWG/pages/353632257/2024+Meeting…> (sent 2024.02.22) - Review a clean copy of Yehoshua’s draft of criteria #1810 <https://kantara.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/IAWG/pages/353632257/2024+Meeting…> (multi-factor authentication) 4. Any Other Business -- *Amanda Gay | **Administrative** Coordinator* *Twitter:* @KantaraNews *LinkedIn:* @KantaraInitiative

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Re: Formalising 'Comparable Alternative' criteria
by Richard G. WILSHER (＠Zygma Inc.) 22 Feb '24

22 Feb '24

Revised version of the draft for CompAlt whereas the previous version was limited to a single FAIR piece of evidence, that didnt much help the conversation which led to the CompAlt solution being raised again, which was a conjectured single Unsupervised SUPERIOR with no human interaction. And on re-reading 63 rev.3 §5.4, it imposes no such limitation on strength or quantity of criteria. So here is the unlimited version of the draft criteria. The changes are marked so you can review the proposed amendments. Thanks, Richard G. WILSHER CEO & Founder, Zygma Inc. www.Zygma.biz +1 714 797 9942 From: Richard G. WILSHER (@Zygma Inc.) [mailto:RGW@Zygma.biz] Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2024 21:52 To: IA WG (wg-idassurance(a)kantarainitiative.org) Subject: Formalising 'Comparable Alternative' criteria As actioned at todays IAWG meeting, I attach the criteria which I used for a recent assessment (since Approved by the ARB). At the time I did not assign 63A# tags since they were assessor-introduced criteria, but I have proposed use of 63A#0700 and #0710 in the attached doc, and of course the Assessor-introduced criterion annotation should be removed prior to ublication and become Kantara-specific. Proposed new criteria are in red with blue background for context a couple of existing (albeit Kantara-specific in one instance) are also included. Happy to receive feedback next week. Richard G. WILSHER CEO & Founder, Zygma Inc. www.Zygma.biz +1 714 797 9942

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Join Us in 1 Hour - IAWG Call - 2022-02-22
by Amanda Gay 22 Feb '24

22 Feb '24

Dear IAWG Members: Please join us in an hour for this week's IAWG meeting. The proposed agenda and Zoom details are below. *Date and Time* - *Date: Thursday, 2024-02-22* - *Time: 9:00 PT | 12:00 ET (**time zone calculator* <https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html>*)* - Please join the meeting from your computer, tablet or smartphone: https://zoom.us/j/93167965850?pwd=dldoT0hYK1k4MkVGYkQ3TkNqdG1Idz09 - Meeting ID: 931 6796 5850 - Passcode: 884696 - You can also dial in using your phone. Find your local number: https://zoom.us/u/aeg9vt8LSr <https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fzoom.us%2Fu%2FabUx61ivsc&sa=D&us…> - Need to add IAWG meetings to your calendar? Do so here! <https://kantara.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/IAWG/overview> DRAFT Agenda 02.22.2024 1. Administration: - Roll call, determination of quorum. - Minutes approval - 2024-02-15 DRAFT Minutes <https://kantara.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/IAWG/pages/365723698/2024-02-15+D…> - Kantara Updates - Assurance Updates 2. IAWG Actions/Reminders/Updates 3. Discussion: - EU-US TTC WG-1 <https://www.nist.gov/identity-access-management/eu-us-ttc-wg-1-digital-iden…> Digital Identity Mapping Exercise Report; feedback due 11:59PM ET, February 29, 2024 - Final opportunity for feedback. - Richard Wilsher - Interpretation of criteria <https://kantara.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/IAWG/pages/353632257/2024+Meeting…> - Review Yehoshua’s draft of criteria (first point regarding multi-factor authentication) - Continue discussion on second criteria question (see Richard’s email on 2024.02.15 with proposed alternative criteria <https://kantara.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/IAWG/pages/353632257/2024+Meeting…> ) 4. Any Other Business -- *Amanda Gay | **Administrative** Coordinator* *Twitter:* @KantaraNews *LinkedIn:* @KantaraInitiative

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Invitation & Agenda for IAWG Call 2023-02-22
by Amanda Gay 20 Feb '24

20 Feb '24

Dear IAWG Members: Please join us Thursday, February 22nd, at 12PM ET for our next IAWG meeting. The proposed agenda and Zoom details are below. *Date and Time* - *Date: Thursday, 2024-02-22* - *Time: 9:00 PT | 12:00 ET (**time zone calculator* <https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html>*)* - Please join the meeting from your computer, tablet or smartphone: https://zoom.us/j/93167965850?pwd=dldoT0hYK1k4MkVGYkQ3TkNqdG1Idz09 - Meeting ID: 931 6796 5850 - Passcode: 884696 - You can also dial in using your phone. Find your local number: https://zoom.us/u/aeg9vt8LSr <https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fzoom.us%2Fu%2FabUx61ivsc&sa=D&us…> - Need to add IAWG meetings to your calendar? Do so here! <https://kantara.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/IAWG/overview> DRAFT Agenda 02.22.2024 1. Administration: - Roll call, determination of quorum. - Minutes approval - 2024-02-15 DRAFT Minutes <https://kantara.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/IAWG/pages/365723698/2024-02-15+D…> - Kantara Updates - Assurance Updates 2. IAWG Actions/Reminders/Updates 3. Discussion: - EU-US TTC WG-1 <https://www.nist.gov/identity-access-management/eu-us-ttc-wg-1-digital-iden…> Digital Identity Mapping Exercise Report; feedback due 11:59PM ET, February 29, 2024 - Final opportunity for feedback. - Richard Wilsher - Interpretation of criteria <https://kantara.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/IAWG/pages/353632257/2024+Meeting…> - Review Yehoshua’s draft of criteria (first point regarding multi-factor authentication) - Continue discussion on second criteria question (see Richard’s email on 2024.02.15 with proposed alternative criteria <https://kantara.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/IAWG/pages/353632257/2024+Meeting…> ) 4. Any Other Business -- *Amanda Gay | **Administrative** Coordinator* *Twitter:* @KantaraNews *LinkedIn:* @KantaraInitiative

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Formalising 'Comparable Alternative' criteria
by Richard G. WILSHER (＠Zygma Inc.) 15 Feb '24

15 Feb '24

As actioned at today's IAWG meeting, I attach the criteria which I used for a recent assessment (since Approved by the ARB). At the time I did not assign '63A#' tags since they were assessor-introduced criteria, but I have proposed use of 63A#0700 and #0710 in the attached doc, and of course the 'Assessor-introduced criterion' annotation should be removed prior to ublication and become 'Kantara-specific'. Proposed new criteria are in red with blue background - for context a couple of existing (albeit Kantara-specific in one instance) are also included. Happy to receive feedback next week. Richard G. WILSHER CEO & Founder, Zygma Inc. www.Zygma.biz +1 714 797 9942

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