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Proposed Passkey notice criteria
by Richard G. WILSHER (＠Zygma Inc.) 21 Nov '24

21 Nov '24

I believe that the list of criteria which should be referenced in the proposed notice are as follows: 63B# - 0410, 0420,0430, 0440, 0450, 0460, 1150, 1160, 1210, 1220, 1230, 1240, 1270, 1280, 1290, 1300, 1310, 1320, 1330, 1450, 1460, 1470, 1480, 1490, 1500, 1510, 1520, 1530, 1540, 1550 These have been previously brought to the IAWG's attention when we were meddling with the actual text of some of these. Richard G. WILSHER CEO & Founder, Zygma Inc. www.Zygma.biz +1 714 797 9942

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Re: Revised Draft KI#N2024-01
by Richard G. WILSHER (＠Zygma Inc.) 21 Nov '24

21 Nov '24

“I assume this is predicated on risk assessments performed by NIST on FIDO implementations” Until such time as NIST actually publishes anything which it claims to be pursuant to a risk analysis the sceptic in me rules! We’ve heard it before but seen nothing. Richard G. WILSHER CEO & Founder, Zygma Inc. www.Zygma.biz +1 714 797 9942 From: Jimmy Jung [mailto:jimmy.jung@slandala.com] Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2024 17:59 To: Richard G. WILSHER (@Zygma Inc.) Subject: RE: [WG-IDAssurance] Revised Draft KI#N2024-01 After my note to Mike, I’m wondering if we should go back to calling them “Cryptographic Software Authenticators” From: Richard G. WILSHER (@Zygma Inc.) <RGW(a)Zygma.biz> Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2024 12:38 PM To: wg-idassurance(a)kantarainitiative.org Subject: [WG-IDAssurance] Revised Draft KI#N2024-01 Well I’ve put to good use the time Amanda just gave back, so attached is a revised version of the Notice which has: 1. A prefatory notice about notices and where one is, as reference for final format; 2. Inclusion of the criteria sent earlier today by email; 3. Accommodation of most recent email exchanges which hadn’t made it into a draft text body – now there with a couple of comments/queries. Until 12-05 … Richard G. WILSHER CEO & Founder, Zygma Inc. www.Zygma.biz +1 714 797 9942 From: Amanda Gay [mailto:amanda@kantarainitiative.org] Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2024 15:58 To: wg-idassurance(a)kantarainitiative.org Subject: [WG-IDAssurance] CANCELLED - IAWG - 21 November 2024 Dear IAWG Members: Apologies for the late cancellation, however, I just got word from Kantara leadership that we will NOT meet today. Please review the Updated Notice (attached) send comments through to the mailing list. Next Thursday is Thanksgiving in the US--there will be no IAWG call. We will tentatively regroup on December 5th. Feel free to reach out with any questions or concerns! Best, -A Amanda Gay | Administrative Coordinator <https://docs.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1f_FyEBepOKYcAfkyIsaSFzguA7Tg…> Twitter: @KantaraNews LinkedIn: @KantaraInitiative *Please take a few minutes to complete the third annual DEIA survey <https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/3LPP3WL> !*

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Revised Draft KI#N2024-01
by Richard G. WILSHER (＠Zygma Inc.) 21 Nov '24

21 Nov '24

Well I’ve put to good use the time Amanda just gave back, so attached is a revised version of the Notice which has: 1. A prefatory notice about notices and where one is, as reference for final format; 2. Inclusion of the criteria sent earlier today by email; 3. Accommodation of most recent email exchanges which hadn’t made it into a draft text body – now there with a couple of comments/queries. Until 12-05 … Richard G. WILSHER CEO & Founder, Zygma Inc. www.Zygma.biz +1 714 797 9942 From: Amanda Gay [mailto:amanda@kantarainitiative.org] Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2024 15:58 To: wg-idassurance(a)kantarainitiative.org Subject: [WG-IDAssurance] CANCELLED - IAWG - 21 November 2024 Dear IAWG Members: Apologies for the late cancellation, however, I just got word from Kantara leadership that we will NOT meet today. Please review the Updated Notice (attached) send comments through to the mailing list. Next Thursday is Thanksgiving in the US--there will be no IAWG call. We will tentatively regroup on December 5th. Feel free to reach out with any questions or concerns! Best, -A Amanda Gay | Administrative Coordinator <https://docs.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1f_FyEBepOKYcAfkyIsaSFzguA7Tg…> Twitter: @KantaraNews LinkedIn: @KantaraInitiative *Please take a few minutes to complete the third annual DEIA survey <https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/3LPP3WL> !*

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CANCELLED - IAWG - 21 November 2024
by Amanda Gay 21 Nov '24

21 Nov '24

Dear IAWG Members: Apologies for the late cancellation, however, I just got word from Kantara leadership that we will NOT meet today. Please review the Updated Notice (attached) send comments through to the mailing list. Next Thursday is Thanksgiving in the US--there will be no IAWG call. We will tentatively regroup on December 5th. Feel free to reach out with any questions or concerns! Best, -A *Amanda Gay | **Administrative** Coordinator* *Twitter:* @KantaraNews *LinkedIn:* @KantaraInitiative **Please take a few minutes to complete the third annual DEIA survey <https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/3LPP3WL>!**

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Invitation and Agenda - IAWG - 21 November 2024
by Amanda Gay 19 Nov '24

19 Nov '24

Dear IAWG Members: Please join us Thursday, November 21 at 12PM ET for our next IAWG meeting. The proposed agenda and Zoom details are below. Date and Time - Date: Thursday, 2024-11-21 - Time: 9:00 PT | 12:00 ET (time zone calculator <https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html>) - Please join the meeting from your computer, tablet or smartphone: https://zoom.us/j/93167965850?pwd=dldoT0hYK1k4MkVGYkQ3TkNqdG1Idz09 - Meeting ID: 931 6796 5850 - Passcode: 884696 - You can also dial in using your phone. Find your local number: https://zoom.us/u/aeg9vt8LSr <https://zoom.us/u/abUx61ivsc> Need to add IAWG meetings to your calendar? Do so here! <https://kantara.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/IAWG/overview> DRAFT 11.21.2024 1. Administration: - Roll call, determination of quorum. - Minutes approval - 2024.11.07 Minutes DRAFT <https://kantara.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/IAWG/pages/753434625/2024-11-07+I…> - 2024.10.17 Minutes DRAFT <https://kantara.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/IAWG/pages/704348184/2024-10-17+I…> - 2024.10.10 Minutes DRAFT <https://kantara.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/IAWG/pages/689242133/2024-10-10+I…> - 2024.10.03 Minutes DRAFT <https://kantara.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/IAWG/pages/680329217/2024-10-03+I…> - 2024.09.26 Minutes DRAFT <https://kantara.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/IAWG/pages/616497192/2024-09-26+I…> - 2024.09.19 Minutes DRAFT <https://kantara.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/IAWG/pages/616661030/2024-09-19+I…> - 2024.09.05 Minutes DRAFT <https://kantara.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/IAWG/pages/616661008/2024-09-05+I…> - Kantara Updates - DEIA Survey <https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/3LPP3WL> Open to Responses - Assurance Updates 2. IAWG Actions/Reminders/Updates: - Meeting cadence - weekly. - Upcoming Cancellations: - November 28 - Potential for more cancellations in December. 3. ISO 17065 Discussion Items 4. Group Discussion: <https://kantara.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/IAWG/pages/353632257/2024+Meeting…> <https://kantara.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/IAWG/pages/353632257/2024+Meeting…> - <https://kantara.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/IAWG/pages/353632257/2024+Meeting…>Proposed notice <https://kantara.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/IAWG/pages/353632257/2024+Meeting…> (initial draft) and consolidated list of criteria RE: syncable authenticators Feel free to reach out with questions/regrets, etc. Best, -A -- *Amanda Gay | **Administrative** Coordinator* *Twitter:* @KantaraNews *LinkedIn:* @KantaraInitiative **Please take a few minutes to complete the third annual DEIA survey <https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/3LPP3WL>!**

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No IAWG call tomorrow
by Amanda Gay 13 Nov '24

13 Nov '24

Hi all: IAWG will not meet Thursday, November 14th. We will regroup next week. Reach out with any questions or concerns! Best, -Amanda -- *Amanda Gay | **Administrative** Coordinator* *Twitter:* @KantaraNews *LinkedIn:* @KantaraInitiative **Please take a few minutes to complete the third annual DEIA survey <https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/3LPP3WL>!**

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Draft Notice re. FIDO Passkeys
by Richard G. WILSHER (＠Zygma Inc.) 13 Nov '24

13 Nov '24

Further to the action Jimmy gave me during yday's IAWG call, pfa a first draft for comment of the notice which was proposed. It has been back and forth between Jimmy and myself and is improved from yesterday's hasty effort. The list of applicable criteria is yet to be definitively produced, but I believe that the list is of secondary importance to the body of the notice, hence its early provision. I will follow-up with a further version including the list, but that will be later into next week. Bon weekend a tous, Richard G. WILSHER CEO & Founder, Zygma Inc. www.Zygma.biz +1 714 797 9942

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SAC needing publication
by Richard G. WILSHER (＠Zygma Inc.) 09 Nov '24

09 Nov '24

Just to recap on my remark during last week's IAWG meeting concerning approved criteria amendments which have yet to be formally published by Kantara, these are: 63A#0180, which provided a more granular breakdown of acceptable evidential document strengths and combinations. 63A#0192, '#0212, '#0700, '#0710, which permitted a consistent and criteria-driven approach to addressing Comparable Alternatives. And in addition, I would recommend that 63A#0110 be split as follows (surely not a material change?), since it states two discrete requirements which would be better addressed as such: 63A#0100 The CSP's CrPS SHALL reflect the structure of its CrP and SHALL include control information detailing how the CSP handles proofing errors or other circumstances that result in an Applicant not being successfully enrolled. 63A#0102 and The CSP's CrPS SHALL include control information detailing how the CSP handles proofing errors or other circumstances that result in an Applicant not being successfully enrolled. But if this would impose any delay in getting the more tangible revisions published, let it go. Thanks, Richard G. WILSHER CEO & Founder, Zygma Inc. www.Zygma.biz +1 714 797 9942

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Join Us In An Hour - IAWG 07 November 2024
by Amanda Gay 07 Nov '24

07 Nov '24

Dear IAWG Members: Please join us in an hour for our next IAWG meeting. The proposed agenda and Zoom details are below. Date and Time - Date: Thursday, 2024-11-07 - Time: 9:00 PT | 12:00 ET (time zone calculator <https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html>) - Please join the meeting from your computer, tablet or smartphone: https://zoom.us/j/93167965850?pwd=dldoT0hYK1k4MkVGYkQ3TkNqdG1Idz09 - Meeting ID: 931 6796 5850 - Passcode: 884696 - You can also dial in using your phone. Find your local number: https://zoom.us/u/aeg9vt8LSr <https://zoom.us/u/abUx61ivsc> - Need to add IAWG meetings to your calendar? Do so here! <https://kantara.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/IAWG/overview> DRAFT 11.08.2024 1. Administration: - Roll call, determination of quorum. - Minutes approval - 2024.10.17 Minutes DRAFT <https://kantara.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/IAWG/pages/704348184/2024-10-17+I…> - 2024.10.10 Minutes DRAFT <https://kantara.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/IAWG/pages/689242133/2024-10-10+I…> - 2024.10.03 Minutes DRAFT <https://kantara.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/IAWG/pages/680329217/2024-10-03+I…> - 2024.09.26 Minutes DRAFT <https://kantara.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/IAWG/pages/616497192/2024-09-26+I…> - 2024.09.19 Minutes DRAFT <https://kantara.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/IAWG/pages/616661030/2024-09-19+I…> - 2024.09.05 Minutes DRAFT <https://kantara.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/IAWG/pages/616661008/2024-09-05+I…> - Kantara Updates - DEIA Survey <https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/3LPP3WL> Open to Responses - Assurance Updates 2. IAWG Actions/Reminders/Updates: - Meeting cadence - weekly. 3. ISO 17065 Discussion Items 4. Group Discussion: - Proposed syncable authenticator criteria from Richard/Jimmy (Found in Meeting Materials <https://kantara.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/IAWG/pages/353632257/2024+Meeting…> on IAWG Wiki). 5. AOB -- *Amanda Gay | **Administrative** Coordinator* *Twitter:* @KantaraNews *LinkedIn:* @KantaraInitiative **Please take a few minutes to complete the third annual DEIA survey <https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/3LPP3WL>!**

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Invitation and Agenda - IAWG - 07 November 2024
by Amanda Gay 05 Nov '24

05 Nov '24

Dear IAWG Members: Please join us Thursday, November 7 at 12PM ET for our next IAWG meeting. The proposed agenda and Zoom details are below. Date and Time - Date: Thursday, 2024-11-07 - Time: 9:00 PT | 12:00 ET (time zone calculator <https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html>) - Please join the meeting from your computer, tablet or smartphone: https://zoom.us/j/93167965850?pwd=dldoT0hYK1k4MkVGYkQ3TkNqdG1Idz09 - Meeting ID: 931 6796 5850 - Passcode: 884696 - You can also dial in using your phone. Find your local number: https://zoom.us/u/aeg9vt8LSr <https://zoom.us/u/abUx61ivsc> - Need to add IAWG meetings to your calendar? Do so here! <https://kantara.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/IAWG/overview> DRAFT 11.08.2024 1. Administration: - Roll call, determination of quorum. - Minutes approval - 2024.10.17 Minutes DRAFT <https://kantara.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/IAWG/pages/704348184/2024-10-17+I…> - 2024.10.10 Minutes DRAFT <https://kantara.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/IAWG/pages/689242133/2024-10-10+I…> - 2024.10.03 Minutes DRAFT <https://kantara.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/IAWG/pages/680329217/2024-10-03+I…> - 2024.09.26 Minutes DRAFT <https://kantara.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/IAWG/pages/616497192/2024-09-26+I…> - 2024.09.19 Minutes DRAFT <https://kantara.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/IAWG/pages/616661030/2024-09-19+I…> - 2024.09.05 Minutes DRAFT <https://kantara.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/IAWG/pages/616661008/2024-09-05+I…> - Kantara Updates - DEIA Survey <https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/3LPP3WL> Open to Responses - Assurance Updates 2. IAWG Actions/Reminders/Updates: - Meeting cadence - weekly. 3. ISO 17065 Discussion Items 4. Group Discussion: - Proposed syncable authenticator criteria from Richard/Jimmy (Found in Meeting Materials <https://kantara.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/IAWG/pages/353632257/2024+Meeting…> on IAWG Wiki). 5. AOB -- *Amanda Gay | **Administrative** Coordinator* *Twitter:* @KantaraNews *LinkedIn:* @KantaraInitiative **Please take a few minutes to complete the third annual DEIA survey <https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/3LPP3WL>!**

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