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KI's path towards IS17065 Accreditation
by Richard G. WILSHER (＠Zygma Inc.) 08 Feb '25

08 Feb '25

Kay, Carol, Andrew et al., I found the 'special invitation' meeting on Feb 3rd interesting but lacking in substance as to how Kantara's proposed Certification Body (KCB) is actually going to function. I say this as one who has a long term participation in and care for KI in all its phases and of course particularly from my perspective as a presently-Approved Assessor. It would be helpful to have a clearer exposition of the relationship between the KI Board, KCB, the ARB, the IAWG and the scheme(s) against which it proposes to offer certification audit services. In discussions to date I sense suggestions that IS17065 imposes certain requirements which, with some experience of IS17065 and ISO standards in particular, I feel are a bit of a stretch. These need to be fully in the open. A schematic would be very helpful (for the sake of discussion/comparison I attach the one I produced in late 2020 as part of the substantial work I undertook obo KI re. IS17065 accreditation). I'm not suggesting this is the only way to establish a CB worthy of accreditation under, but it's the kind of product which I think would be hugely useful). What I also think would be of great value to Assessors in particular but nonetheless, I would anticipate, to a wider audience, would be the proposals for, inter alia: a) determining the eligibility of auditors and the contractual arrangements for auditors; b) how audit costs will be determined and what role in that auditors will have; c) the duration of audits, etc. Also, noting much confusion during this week's IAWG call about what are the provisions IS17065 I'm requesting that copy of the standard be made available without undue delay to all interested Kantara parties. Yes, this may be a technical breach of ISO copyright, depending on the form of licence held by Kantara, but it is important that all involved have the means to understand its requirements and entitlements, and let's face it, only KI actually needs the standard for the purposes of implementation. We've previously shared ISO documents amongst KI participants for informational/review purposes so we could surely do that again? Having some in-depth sessions and access to the standard without delay would, I am sure, be very much appreciated by all KI members and perhaps iron out any misconceptions. I have addressed this to the IAWG since IS17065 accreditation was a hot topic during this week's call, and I believe that list includes all who participated in the Feb 3rd call. In full disclosure, I am also forwarding this to those KI Board members with whom I have a 1-1 relationship. The Board needs to understand the concerns that exist and also should have access to 17065 to help them make their own determinations on this topic. I'd also like to stress the point that any present work on the IAWG Charter should be a completely independent exercise to anything to do with IS17065, since we're probably only third-guessing (not even second) what the final KCB roll-out will be. The Charter should deal with the present organisational arrangements. It would be misguided to try to mix the two activities. Regards, Richard G. WILSHER CEO & Founder, Zygma Inc. www.Zygma.biz +1 714 797 9942

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IAWG Charter Update text
by Andrew Hughes 06 Feb '25

06 Feb '25

Hello IAWG! It's time to review/renew our WG Charter. Yehoshua and I have refined the front sections of the charter and have started to adjust it in light of Kantara US seeing accreditation under ISO 17065. No major changes - just trying to set IAWG up for success particularly during the development of next-generation assessment criteria. The plan is to discuss this text this week and approve the updated Charter on February 13. thanks! andrew. *Purpose & Scope:* The Identity Assurance Work Group (IAWG) supports Kantara in developing and maintaining assessable identity assurance criteria for the Kantara US Identity Assurance Program and other relevant frameworks. IAWG ensures that criteria define measurable methods for compliance rather than restating requirements. The workgroup provides subject matter expertise to Kantara, advises the Assurance Review Board (ARB), and facilitates discussions on identity proofing, authentication, and assurance. IAWG's focus is on defining certification criteria that align with the specific functions organizations perform within identity proofing and authentication. The workgroup remains technology- and vendor-agnostic while emphasizing strategic and policy-oriented assurance practices. *RESPONSIBILITIES:* • Assist Kantara in developing and evolving identity assurance criteria that support certification of specific identity proofing and authentication functions. • Ensure that criteria are assessable and define how compliance must be demonstrated. • Provide expert input on identity assurance policies, standards, and interoperability with other assurance schemes. • Advise Kantara leadership and the ARB on assurance-related topics. • Engage with other Kantara groups to align identity assurance efforts with broader industry needs. *Andrew Hughes *CISM mobile/signal +1 250.888.9474 AndrewHughes3000(a)gmail.com *https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrew-hughes-682058a <https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrew-hughes-682058a>*

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DGSI draft open for public review
by Andrew Hughes 06 Feb '25

06 Feb '25

Hello IAWG! Do we want to prepare comments on this as a group? Deadline is April 11 2025. If we have time for it, it would be good to show support - DGSI is doing good standards work. https://dgc-cgn.org/standards/find-a-standard/standards-in-digital-trust/ca… CAN/DGSI 103-0, Digital Trust & Identity – Part 0 - Techniques – Code of > Practice has now been posted for Public Review on the DGC website. The > Public Review period will run from February 5th, 2025, to April 11th, 2025, > during which time any interested party, as well as Technical Committee > participants, may comment on the future National Standard of Canada by > visiting the DGC website. All comments submitted will be compiled and > dispositioned by the Technical Committee at a future meeting to be > scheduled following the closing of the public review period. *Andrew Hughes *CISM mobile/signal +1 250.888.9474 AndrewHughes3000(a)gmail.com *https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrew-hughes-682058a <https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrew-hughes-682058a>*

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Meeting notes from 2025-02-06
by Andrew Hughes 06 Feb '25

06 Feb '25

You missed a great discussion today. Next week February 13 2025 we will continue vigorously discussing the charter update proposal - focused on the "purpose and scope" text. Expect another good one. Draft notes are here, *Please review and ask for corrections - I was taking notes live and want to ensure that I represented your positions accurately. The bulk of the notes are in the draft page linked inside these meeting notes.* https://kantara.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/IAWG/pages/855441414/2025-02-06+I… andrew. *Andrew Hughes *CISM mobile/signal +1 250.888.9474 AndrewHughes3000(a)gmail.com *https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrew-hughes-682058a <https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrew-hughes-682058a>*

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IAWG Meeting today February 6 2025
by Andrew Hughes 06 Feb '25

06 Feb '25

Hello IAWG! Apologies for the late notification email - we are shifting role responsibilities. Agenda today will be a discussion about IAWG Charter updates and nominations for Chair, Vice-chair, Secretary. thanks andrew. Meetings at 12 pm Eastern Time Time zone converter: www.thetimenow.com/time-zone-converter.php Topic: IAWG Time: This is a recurring meeting. Join Zoom Meeting https://zoom.us/j/93167965850?pwd=dldoT0hYK1k4MkVGYkQ3TkNqdG1Idz09 Meeting ID: 931 6796 5850 Passcode: 884696 One tap mobile +13126266799,,93167965850#,,,,*884696# US (Chicago) +16465588656,,93167965850#,,,,*884696# US (New York) *Andrew Hughes *CISM mobile/signal +1 250.888.9474 AndrewHughes3000(a)gmail.com *https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrew-hughes-682058a <https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrew-hughes-682058a>*

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Call for Leadership role nominations for 2025
by Andrew Hughes 04 Feb '25

04 Feb '25

Hello IAWG! We need to do our annual refresh of leadership roles. I have decided to step down as Chair this year, to allow fresh thinking and energy into the group. Yehoshua and I are self-nominating as follows. I encourage you to nominate or self-nominate (or contact me/Yehoshua if you are interested). Note that we operate the leadership group as a forum of equals - so if you want more insight into how Kantara works, or to help define the flight path of IAWG, now's a great time. Nomination for IAWG Chair: Yehoshua Silberstein Nomination for IAWG Vice-Chair: Andrew Hughes Nomination for IAWG Secretary: Open Email nominations to Andrew Hughes or to the IAWG list. Timeline: Nomination period open now until February 13 2025 IAWG meeting. At February 13, 2025 meeting: if required, a vote. *Andrew Hughes *CISM mobile/signal +1 250.888.9474 AndrewHughes3000(a)gmail.com *https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrew-hughes-682058a <https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrew-hughes-682058a>*

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Reminder: No IAWG call this week (Jan 30)
by Andrew Hughes 30 Jan '25

30 Jan '25

*Andrew Hughes *CISM mobile/signal +1 250.888.9474 AndrewHughes3000(a)gmail.com *https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrew-hughes-682058a <https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrew-hughes-682058a>*

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IAWG - 30 January 2025 - No call this week
by arminkathrein＠icloud.com 28 Jan '25

28 Jan '25

Hello to all, There will not be an IAWG call this week. Please forward questions/comments or potential agenda topics to WG leadership. Have a great week! Greetings, Armin Kathrein

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Canceled event: Identity Assurance Work Group Call @ Thu Jan 23, 2025 12pm - 1pm (EST) (wg-idassurance@kantarainitiative.org)
by Kantara Initiative 24 Jan '25

24 Jan '25

This event has been canceled. Identity Assurance Work Group Call Thursday Jan 23, 2025 ⋅ 12pm – 1pm Eastern Time - New York Location Zoom https://us06web.zoom.us/j/93167965850?pwd=dldoT0hYK1k4MkVGYkQ3TkNqdG1Idz09 https://www.google.com/maps/search/Zoom+https:%2F%2Fus06web.zoom.us%2Fj%2F9… Meetings at 12 pm Eastern TimeTime zone converter: www.thetimenow.com/time-zone-converter.phpTopic: IAWGTime: This is a recurring meeting.Join Zoom Meetinghttps://zoom.us/j/93167965850?pwd=dldoT0hYK1k4MkVGYkQ3TkNqdG1Idz09Meeting ID: 931 6796 5850Passcode: 884696One tap mobile+13126266799,,93167965850#,,,,*884696# US (Chicago)+16465588656,,93167965850#,,,,*884696# US (New York)Dial by your location +1 312 626 6799 US (Chicago) +1 646 558 8656 US (New York) +1 301 715 8592 US (Washington DC) +1 346 248 7799 US (Houston) +1 669 900 9128 US (San Jose) +1 253 215 8782 US (Tacoma)Meeting ID: 931 6796 5850Passcode: 884696Find your local number: https://zoom.us/u/aeg9vt8LSr ~~//~~ Invitation from Google Calendar: https://calendar.google.com/calendar/ You are receiving this email because you are an attendee on the event. Forwarding this invitation could allow any recipient to send a response to the organizer, be added to the guest list, invite others regardless of their own invitation status, or modify your RSVP. Learn more https://support.google.com/calendar/answer/37135#forwarding -- *Tel: *+1 571-475-8895 *Email: *hello(a)kantarainitiative.org <mailto:hello@kantarainitiative.org> *LinkedIn:* @KantaraInitiative <https://www.linkedin.com/company/kantara-initiative/>

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Canceled event: Identity Assurance Work Group Call @ Thu Feb 6, 2025 12pm - 1pm (EST) (wg-idassurance@kantarainitiative.org)
by Kantara Initiative 24 Jan '25

24 Jan '25

This event has been canceled. Identity Assurance Work Group Call Thursday Feb 6, 2025 ⋅ 12pm – 1pm Eastern Time - New York Location Zoom https://us06web.zoom.us/j/93167965850?pwd=dldoT0hYK1k4MkVGYkQ3TkNqdG1Idz09 https://www.google.com/maps/search/Zoom+https:%2F%2Fus06web.zoom.us%2Fj%2F9… Meetings at 12 pm Eastern TimeTime zone converter: www.thetimenow.com/time-zone-converter.phpTopic: IAWGTime: This is a recurring meeting.Join Zoom Meetinghttps://zoom.us/j/93167965850?pwd=dldoT0hYK1k4MkVGYkQ3TkNqdG1Idz09Meeting ID: 931 6796 5850Passcode: 884696One tap mobile+13126266799,,93167965850#,,,,*884696# US (Chicago)+16465588656,,93167965850#,,,,*884696# US (New York)Dial by your location +1 312 626 6799 US (Chicago) +1 646 558 8656 US (New York) +1 301 715 8592 US (Washington DC) +1 346 248 7799 US (Houston) +1 669 900 9128 US (San Jose) +1 253 215 8782 US (Tacoma)Meeting ID: 931 6796 5850Passcode: 884696Find your local number: https://zoom.us/u/aeg9vt8LSr ~~//~~ Invitation from Google Calendar: https://calendar.google.com/calendar/ You are receiving this email because you are an attendee on the event. Forwarding this invitation could allow any recipient to send a response to the organizer, be added to the guest list, invite others regardless of their own invitation status, or modify your RSVP. Learn more https://support.google.com/calendar/answer/37135#forwarding -- *Tel: *+1 571-475-8895 *Email: *hello(a)kantarainitiative.org <mailto:hello@kantarainitiative.org> *LinkedIn:* @KantaraInitiative <https://www.linkedin.com/company/kantara-initiative/>

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