(Specifically adding Kay, though I suspect she sees IAWG threads) Re. the subject line: I agree with Andrew's comment on today's IAWG call that lack of CSPs is a perennial problem. I also agree with Michael's comment that it isn't a case of "which CSP do you want", it's a case of having a significant number of them attending consistently to actually make the WG an industry body, which is KI's purpose. I'm not comfortable with the small group of 'usual suspects' make decisions in the absence of meaningful CSP representation. Despite the best will in the World, it could lead to the perception and thus criticism that it's the Assessors making the decisions (I've heard of such comments being made, albeit second-hand, with the implication that such decisions are for the benefit of Assessors, which is pretty hard to comprehend). Would it be constructive for a communication to be sent by the Exec Directrice / Board to ALL Approved CSPs pointing out that KI *is* an industry body which needs support from those who seek its Approval services in defining how its services evolve? At the least, it would be a defence against potential criticism of how and which decisions get made. CSP's already on this list, please take note! Happy to help draft something if so requested. Richard G. WILSHER CEO & Founder, Zygma Inc. www.Zygma.biz +1 714 797 9942