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FYI: How Do I Trust Entities? Different Levels of Identity & Credential Assurance - A Thought Paper
by John Wunderlich 09 Jan '24

09 Jan '24

A long-ish read by Guy, with a long list of references to his prior work. Recommended reading https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/how-do-i-trust-entities-different-levels-ide… Have a better than expected day, John Wunderlich LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/privacycdn/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/PrivacyCDN -- This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. If you are not the intended recipient you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited.

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Today’s mintues and an email ballot
by John Wunderlich 03 Jan '24

03 Jan '24

Hello; See the minutes from today’s meeting at https://kantara.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/PEMCP/pages/322043905/2024-01-03+… We did not achieve a quorum, so we decided to have an email ballot for the leadership. Please respond to this email (including cc to myself and Christopher) indicating: > Yes/No to confirming John Wunderlich & Christopher Williams as Chair and Co-Chair respectively Please respond by the end of the day next Tuesday for your vote to be counted. Have a better than expected day, John Wunderlich LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/privacycdn/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/PrivacyCDN -- This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. If you are not the intended recipient you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited.

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Tomorrow’s call
by John Wunderlich 02 Jan '24

02 Jan '24

Happy New Year. I want to share with you that the leadership council vote has passed, and the Implementor’s Report should be published on the Kantara Reports and Recommendations site in the next day or so. Congratulations to all. We have a meeting scheduled for tomorrow, the main focus of which is the annual leadership election. Christopher Williams and I are standing again for the leadership. Others can self-nominate if they choose. If we don’t get quorum tomorrow, I suggest an email ballet. Also, the charter for the workgroup can be reviewed, but from my perspective, it is still valid. In any event, I look forward to seeing you on Zoom tomorrow for the call. We will commence the review and approval of requirements starting on Jan 10. Have a better than expected day, John Wunderlich LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/privacycdn/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/PrivacyCDN -- This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. If you are not the intended recipient you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited.

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Fwd: Call for Comments | EU-US TTC Digital Identity Mapping Exercise Report + Save the Date
by Tom Jones 22 Dec '23

22 Dec '23

i would think that both committees would have some comments with references to existing reports. thx ..Tom (mobile) ---------- Forwarded message --------- From: NIST Cybersecurity and Privacy Program < csrc.nist(a)service.govdelivery.com> Date: Fri, Dec 22, 2023, 7:38 AM Subject: Call for Comments | EU-US TTC Digital Identity Mapping Exercise Report + Save the Date To: <thomasclinganjones(a)gmail.com> [image: NIST] View As Web Page <https://lnks.gd/l/eyJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJidWxsZXRpbl9saW5rX2lkIjoxMDAsInVy…> [image: Header] NIST Cybersecurity and Privacy Program [image: Calendar Announcement] *EU-US Digital Identity Mapping Exercise Report Now Open for Feedback…and Save the Date for a Webinar!* Following a successful round of government-to-government technical exchanges earlier this calendar year, in March 2023, the European Commission and the US Government, operating under the auspices of the US-EU Trade and Technology Council (TTC), publicly committed to undertake a transatlantic mapping exercise with the objective of finding commonalities between the EU and US approaches to digital identity. 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Call for papers fyi
by Salvatore D'Agostino 18 Dec '23

18 Dec '23

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age verification
by Tom Jones 13 Dec '23

13 Dec '23

We were arguing about age from mDL, but it seems CA is ahead of us. They support TruAge AS A SEPARATE CRED already https://www.mytruage.org/ https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/ca-dmv-wallet/truage/#faqs SOOOO - if the wallet has both mDL and TruAge - the wallet should pick the least invasive method. ..tom

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Fwd: NEW BLOG | Progress - NIST’s Digital Identity Guidelines
by Tom Jones 12 Dec '23

12 Dec '23

It looks like 63-4 is headed for another public response period. Note that they have switched to the issuer-holder-verifier format. Most of the responses from Kantara have been from the IA folk who are focused on the audit POV. Perhaps we needs something from the developer POV? ..tom ---------- Forwarded message --------- From: NIST Cybersecurity and Privacy Program < csrc.nist(a)service.govdelivery.com> Date: Tue, Dec 12, 2023 at 7:09 AM Subject: NEW BLOG | Progress - NIST’s Digital Identity Guidelines To: <thomasclinganjones(a)gmail.com> [image: NIST] View As Web Page <https://lnks.gd/l/eyJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJidWxsZXRpbl9saW5rX2lkIjoxMDAsInVy…> [image: Header] Cybersecurity Insights a NIST Blog A Note on Progress…NIST’s Digital Identity Guidelines. In August 2023 the Digital Identity Guidelines team hosted a two-day workshop to provide a public update on the status of revision 4. As part of that session, we committed to providing further information on the status of each volume going forward. In fulfillment of this commitment, we wanted to offer a quick update on where we stand. Our goal remains to have the next version of each volume out by the Spring of 2024. With our gratitude for the robust and substantive engagement we received during the comment period, at this time we would like to announce that all four volumes of Special Publication 800-63-4 will have a second public comment period, which will last at least 45 days. - *NIST SP 800-63 Base Volume* <https://lnks.gd/l/eyJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJidWxsZXRpbl9saW5rX2lkIjoxMDEsInVy…>. We are making substantive changes to the volume including updating the digital identity model to account for “Issuer, Holder, Verifier” frameworks of digital identity, new content... Read More <https://lnks.gd/l/eyJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJidWxsZXRpbl9saW5rX2lkIjoxMDIsInVy…> Connect with us [image: facebook] <https://lnks.gd/l/eyJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJidWxsZXRpbl9saW5rX2lkIjoxMDMsInVy…>[image: twitter] <https://lnks.gd/l/eyJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJidWxsZXRpbl9saW5rX2lkIjoxMDQsInVy…>[image: youtube] <https://lnks.gd/l/eyJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJidWxsZXRpbl9saW5rX2lkIjoxMDUsInVy…>[image: linkedin] <https://lnks.gd/l/eyJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJidWxsZXRpbl9saW5rX2lkIjoxMDYsInVy…>[image: flickr] <https://lnks.gd/l/eyJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJidWxsZXRpbl9saW5rX2lkIjoxMDcsInVy…> Received this email from a friend? Subscribe here <https://lnks.gd/l/eyJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJidWxsZXRpbl9saW5rX2lkIjoxMDgsInVy…> . [image: ITL NIST] <https://lnks.gd/l/eyJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJidWxsZXRpbl9saW5rX2lkIjoxMDksInVy…> Subscriber services: Manage Preferences <https://lnks.gd/l/eyJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJidWxsZXRpbl9saW5rX2lkIjoxMTAsInVy…> | Unsubscribe <https://lnks.gd/l/eyJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJidWxsZXRpbl9saW5rX2lkIjoxMTEsInVy…> | Help <https://lnks.gd/l/eyJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJidWxsZXRpbl9saW5rX2lkIjoxMTIsInVy…> ------------------------------ If you have questions or problems with the subscription service, please contact subscriberhelp.govdelivery.com <https://lnks.gd/l/eyJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJidWxsZXRpbl9saW5rX2lkIjoxMTMsInVy…> . Technical questions? Contact inquiries(a)nist.gov. (301) 975-NIST (6478). This service is provided to you at no charge by National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST). 100 Bureau Drive, Stop 1070 · Gaithersburg, MD 20899 · 301-975-6478 [image: GovDelivery logo] <https://lnks.gd/l/eyJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJidWxsZXRpbl9saW5rX2lkIjoxMTQsInVy…>

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Implementor’s report for workgroup vote
by John Wunderlich 11 Dec '23

11 Dec '23

Please find attached the Early Implementors Draft for workgroup vote: Next steps: 1 Workgroup Votes: • Vote Approve • Vote Approve with suggestions (include specific suggestions for final editing) • Vote Not Approve 2. Final Editing by leadership team (assuming majority of votes cast are Approve or Approve with suggestions) 3. Submit for publication On the agenda for tomorrow: 1. Developing a cadence and calendar for asynchronous development of requirement 2. Review of voting process Have a better than expected day, John Wunderlich LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/privacycdn/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/PrivacyCDN -- This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. If you are not the intended recipient you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited.

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SP 800-226, Guidelines for Evaluating Differential Privacy Guarantees | CSRC
by John Wunderlich 11 Dec '23

11 Dec '23

Some of you may want to comment on this: https://csrc.nist.gov/pubs/sp/800/226/ipd Have a better than expected day, John Wunderlich LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/privacycdn/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/PrivacyCDN -- This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. If you are not the intended recipient you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited.

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Governments have been and will remain a major threat to privacy.
by Tom Jones 10 Dec '23

10 Dec '23

We should probably review the threat posed by eIDAS to privacy. It would be good if our guidelines were clear that government mandated monitoring is banned. https://nce.mpi-sp.org/index.php/s/cG88cptFdaDNyRr Be the change you want to see in the world ..tom

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which federal agency should create Identifier standards?
by Tom Jones 08 Dec '23

08 Dec '23

'TSA Is Not the Right Agency to Lead' REAL ID Implementation, Security Experts Say Security and identity management experts urged Congress to direct the National Institute of Standards and Technology to play a bigger role in developing standards for digital identity management ahead of a looming 2025 deadline for domestic air travellers to comply with security requirements outlined in the REAL ID Act. "While DHS does not create standards, DHS - or even better, the White House or Congress - should request that NIST lead a timeboxed, one-year effort to create the standards and guidance needed to accelerate the deployment of secure, privacy-protecting mDL apps that Americans can use to protect and assert their identity online," Grant testified. Jay Stanley, a senior policy analyst with the American Civil Liberties Union's Speech, Privacy, and Technology Project, warned that the TSA has proposed to adopt the ISO standards, which he said were "created behind closed doors by a secretive committee" and are "inadequate and incomplete when it comes to the protection of our privacy." Sounds like Jeremy Grant is involved somehow. ..tom

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Apologies for the late cancellation
by John Wunderlich 29 Nov '23

29 Nov '23

Hello; Unfortunately, today’s call has to be cancelled. I will update you with respect to the publication of the Implementor’s report and moving forward on the guidance as soon as I have something concrete to report. My recovery is proceeding, and my ability to work is coming back, so I hope this delay won’t be extended. Apologies for any inconvenience. Have a better than expected day, John Wunderlich LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/privacycdn/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/PrivacyCDN -- This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. If you are not the intended recipient you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited.

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The Canadian Trust framework is not inclusive
by Tom Jones 23 Nov '23

23 Nov '23

The following is one example of standards that are not inclusive that need input of the sort we are trying to produce in Kantara. It subjects human holders of digital wallets to Trust Criteria that may well have the result of preventing human beings from accessing their rights and privileges. This is why I would like to see an early report on Inclusivity. "Digital Identity Ecosystems and their associated Trust Registries use a Trust Framework (such as the PCTF) to define how Issuers, Verifiers, Holders, and Digital Wallets should or must operate to be considered trustworthy." https://diacc.ca/trust-framework-components/pctf-trust-registries/ I requested a change and got the following responses: The Trust Framework defines the “how”, which may or may not include an entry in a Trust Registry. Holders belong on that list because they can be in a position to compromise the trustworthiness of an ecosystem. Additionally, a person may be the holder of credentials, a business may be a holder of credentials, an IoT thing may hold credentials, and the wallet may hold (be the holder) of credentials for a person or a business. In this context, a Holder is more than just a person. It's a person's decision whether they want to use a digital credential or not. Much like a person can choose to pay for an item with cash or use their biometrics on their smartphone to tap payment. A person's rights or privileges are not determined by this nor is it being insinuated nor is it being enforced on citizens. At the end of the day, it's the individual's decision and choice, which Canadians have and will continue to do so, how they want to interact with the digital ecosystem. Something that is not so evident in the countries you mentioned. [Russia and China] As we can see from the following example of a first nations grandfather seeking to set up a bank account for his daughter; underserved populations are AT RISK from thinking like the above. This is a good example of why technologists should not be permitted to define standards that impact normal people. They just have no clue! A Heiltsuk man, granddaughter handcuffed outside Vancouver bank settle human rights case against police. Vancouver: CBC. Retrieved from https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/maxwell-johnson-granddaught… ..tom

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The Face Is the Final Frontier of Privacy
by John Wunderlich 23 Nov '23

23 Nov '23

The burden should be on the verifier to ensure that the Holder can exercise their rights. Good quick read: https://time.com/collection/time100-voices/6338338/joy-buolamwini-ai-face-p… Have a better than expected day, John Wunderlich LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/privacycdn/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/PrivacyCDN -- This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. If you are not the intended recipient you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited.

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Reminder: No call today
by John Wunderlich 22 Nov '23

22 Nov '23

Happy American Thanksgiving. 🍗 Have a better than expected day, John Wunderlich LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/privacycdn/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/PrivacyCDN -- This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. If you are not the intended recipient you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited.

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Reminders & References for next actions
by John Wunderlich 08 Nov '23

08 Nov '23

Two reminders: 1. There is no meeting today, as we have moved to a bi-weekly cadence 2. Voting is underway for the draft implementors report (see my prior email with the attached draft). Please send your vote (Approve, Approve with comments/suggestions, Reject) to john(a)wunderlich.ca cc's to williams.2560(a)gmail.com, and Hannah.sutor(a)gmail.com References: Nov 1 Minutes: https://kantara.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/PEMCP/pages/283410433/2023-11-01+… Nov 15 Agenda: https://kantara.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/PEMCP/pages/283738113/2023-11-15+… PEMC Requirements Coverage Google Sheet for submitting requirements: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1yJ1B9fAXMsj1IGiI2tsAihxXvXhj7VUM0xj… Have a better than expected day, John Wunderlich LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/privacycdn/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/PrivacyCDN -- This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. If you are not the intended recipient you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited.

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Privacy Advocates Raise Concerns with New Mobile Driver’s Licenses — Internet & Social Media Law Blog — October 23, 2023
by John Wunderlich 24 Oct '23

24 Oct '23

FYI https://www.internetandtechnologylaw.com/privacy-concerns-mobile-drivers-li… Sincerely, John Wunderlich BA, MBA, CISA, CIPP/C, CIPM, FIP LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/privacycdn/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/PrivacyCDN -- This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. If you are not the intended recipient you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited.

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Re: Spreadsheet shared with you: "PEMC Requirements Coverage"
by Tom Jones 21 Oct '23

21 Oct '23

It's interesting. But not practical. We need wallets to be accountable. Free and accountable does not compute. thx ..Tom (mobile) On Sat, Oct 21, 2023, 6:28 PM Salvatore D'Agostino <sal(a)idmachines.com> wrote: > Thanks Adrian, really like #5 > > IDmachines > 4 Lamson Place > Cambridge, MA 02139-2612 > +1 617.201.4809 > https://IDmachines.com > ------------------------------ > *From:* Adrian Gropper <agropper(a)gmail.com> > *Sent:* Saturday, October 21, 2023 4:21 PM > *To:* John Wunderlich <john(a)wunderlich.ca> > *Cc:* aglasscock(a)nascio.org <aglasscock(a)nascio.org>; > andrewhughes3000(a)gmail.com <andrewhughes3000(a)gmail.com>; > athomabaker(a)apple.com <athomabaker(a)apple.com>; chaudhury(a)google.com < > chaudhury(a)google.com>; gail.hodges(a)oidf.org <gail.hodges(a)oidf.org>; > hannah.sutor(a)gmail.com <hannah.sutor(a)gmail.com>; > hlf(a)sphericalcowconsulting.com <hlf(a)sphericalcowconsulting.com>; > jazzmine.dowtin(a)idemia-nss.com <jazzmine.dowtin(a)idemia-nss.com>; > jimpasquale(a)gmail.com <jimpasquale(a)gmail.com>; > lisa.levasseur(a)internetsafetylabs.org < > lisa.levasseur(a)internetsafetylabs.org>; ljordaan(a)aamva.org < > ljordaan(a)aamva.org>; maria.vachino(a)jhuapl.edu <maria.vachino(a)jhuapl.edu>; > maronson(a)notary.org <maronson(a)notary.org>; mcristinatl(a)outlook.es < > mcristinatl(a)outlook.es>; noreen.whysel(a)me2ba.org <noreen.whysel(a)me2ba.org>; > peter.davis(a)airsidemobile.com <peter.davis(a)airsidemobile.com>; Salvatore > D'Agostino <sal(a)idmachines.com>; thomasclinganjones(a)gmail.com < > thomasclinganjones(a)gmail.com>; tim(a)entrustient.com <tim(a)entrustient.com>; > vkrishnaraj(a)google.com <vkrishnaraj(a)google.com>; williams.2560(a)gmail.com < > williams.2560(a)gmail.com> > *Subject:* Re: Spreadsheet shared with you: "PEMC Requirements Coverage" > > It's an interesting list but I'm unclear about the scope of the charter > that supports it. Is there one? > > From where I stand, I would like to see some things clearly stated: > > 1 - The Holder SHOULD be a semi-autonomous and delegatable agent of the > subject. This would help to address the power asymmetry between Issuers and > Verifiers vs. subjects. > > 2 - Verifiers MUST scope and sign their verification requests. Scope MUST > include a purpose. The signature MUST be sufficient to keep the verifier > accountable if they breach their stated purpose of the request. > > 3 - The process of unwitnessed online verification must be clear. For > example, under what use-cases is the subject expected to use a user-agent > (mobile or hosted) that is "certified" or otherwise controlled by some > government or federated private entity. A *single-purpose* wallet > controlled by an Issuer or Verifier and not used for interaction outside of > that specific scope could, of course, be certified by either the Issuer or > Verifier. > > 4 - Protocols for presentation to the Verifier must consider the cost and > inconvenience of doing request verifications, making authorization > decisions, and keeping logs for Verifier accountability. Verifiers SHOULD > post a payment or deposit in order to prevent spam and offset these costs > borne by the subject. We cannot assume that subjects have a choice or that > verifiers always compete fairly for subject engagement. > > 5 - The essential components, including wallets, for use of > government-issued credentials MUST be free and accessible to all. 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Update on PEMC work
by John Wunderlich 20 Oct '23

20 Oct '23

Hello; Christopher and I would like to provide an update on the PEMC work. 1. Christopher, Hannah, and I are working through the Implementor’s Guidance document and anticipate sharing a vote-ready version next week. This has been pushed back because of a medical issue that I experienced, but am working back from. Some critical points to remember when we circulate the draft for workgroup approval: a. I generally take the view that this kind of group work is ready to move forward when everyone is equally unhappy with the results (that’s one way to look at the results of consensus and compromise) b. This is not a normative report. It is preliminary guidance that roughly represents a consensus view of the group. c. I view this as V1 of the report and anticipate it will be updated after completing the first draft recommendations. 2. We are moving to a bi-weekly cadence for the PEMC calls to facilitate offline and asynchronous work. This is because the weekly meetings appear (to me) to have become the place where we discuss but do not quickly resolve the text that we are creating. We have created the Google Sheet shared with you to brainstorm and create the requirements YOU think should be included in the recommendations. The biweekly meetings will focus on issues that can not be resolved asynchronously or on votes on recommendations. More on the form and format of the published recommendations will be forthcoming once the workgroup feels it is closing in on a reasonably complete set of V1 recommendations. Next steps A: Workgroup vote on the Implementors report by email once. We anticipate getting the candidate draft out next week. B: Populate the requirements on Google Sheets. Getting your input as soon as possible is critical. I believe that the recommendations we are working on will be both unique and uniquely useful to stakeholders that want to be able to provide real assurances about their protection of personal data. This is your homework, and it is a brainstorming exercise, so the more, the better. Next Zoom Call: Wednesday, Nov. 1 at 1:00 PM Eastern. Sincerely, John Wunderlich BA, MBA, CISA, CIPP/C, CIPM, FIP LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/privacycdn/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/PrivacyCDN -- This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. If you are not the intended recipient you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited.

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FW: Register Now! NIST Personal Identity Verification Webinar
by Salvatore D'Agostino 19 Oct '23

19 Oct '23

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FYI from Papers, Please!
by John Wunderlich 17 Oct '23

17 Oct '23

Headline: The TSA wants to put a government tracking app on your smartphone https://papersplease.org/wp/2023/10/16/the-tsa-wants-to-put-a-government-tr… Sincerely, John Wunderlich BA, MBA, CISA, CIPP/C, CIPM, FIP LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/privacycdn/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/PrivacyCDN -- This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. If you are not the intended recipient you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited.

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Google Sheets for Requirments gathering
by John Wunderlich 16 Oct '23

16 Oct '23

Hi; Here is a commenter link to the Google Sheet called “PEMC Requirements Coverage”. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1yJ1B9fAXMsj1IGiI2tsAihxXvXhj7VUM0xj… I’ll go through the participant page to add PEMC participants as editors, assuming I have the emails. Please advise if the email you want to use for editing and commenting is different than the one that is associated with you on the PEMC participants list, found here: https://kantara.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/PEMCP/pages/2097688/Participant+r… Sincerely, John Wunderlich BA, MBA, CISA, CIPP/C, CIPM, FIP LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/privacycdn/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/PrivacyCDN -- This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. If you are not the intended recipient you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited.

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PEMC WG meeting cancelled this week
by Christopher Williams 25 Sep '23

25 Sep '23

Hello Everyone, As we discussed at the meeting last Wednesday we will be moving to biweekly meetings for the PEMC WG to give everyone more time to focus on offline editing of the Requirements and Implementer's Guide. I will follow up with more instructions on how to best access those documents soon. In the meantime have a great wednesday and I look forward to connecting at our next meeting on Oct. 4th. Best, Christopher

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Fwd: Webinar host invited you to be panelist for My Webinar
by Salvatore D'Agostino 23 Sep '23

23 Sep '23

Here is the link to the hackathon today and tomorrow morning.. IDmachines 1264 Beacon Street, #5 Brookline, MA 02446 +1 617.201.4809 @idmachines ________________________________ From: Zoom <no-reply(a)zoom.us> Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2023 9:36:46 AM To: Salvatore D'Agostino <sal(a)idmachines.com> Subject: Webinar host invited you to be panelist for My Webinar [http://us02web.zoom.us/w_p/8WmmtMhDT_CD-p2DxWZNhw/8652212f-596f-4e8f-ba74-4…] Hi Salvatore D'Agostino, Webinar host invited you to be panelist for My Webinar. My Webinar Date & Time Sep 23, 2023 10:00 AM Montreal Webinar ID 861 2396 6915 Participant ID 605271 Passcode 0230506 Add to: [https://us02st3.zoom.us/static/6.3.15784/image/new/google.png] Google Calendar <https://us02web.zoom.us/webinar/tZIsdeqhqD0jG9GFXHHmcV_4ULsP9HSVpFpE/calend…> [https://us02st3.zoom.us/static/6.3.15784/image/new/outlook.png] Outlook Calendar(.ICS) <https://us02web.zoom.us/webinar/tZIsdeqhqD0jG9GFXHHmcV_4ULsP9HSVpFpE/ics?us…> [https://us02st3.zoom.us/static/6.3.15784/image/new/yahoo.png] Yahoo Calendar <https://us02web.zoom.us/webinar/tZIsdeqhqD0jG9GFXHHmcV_4ULsP9HSVpFpE/ics?us…> Please submit any questions to: sharon.polsky(a)aminacorp.ca Thank you! WAYS TO JOIN THIS WEBINAR * Join from PC, Mac, iPad, or Android Join Webinar <https://us02web.zoom.us/w/86123966915?tk=MVbL9-TlSZ6d33UL_Qbp-tJKpZcRtnu5uz…> If the button above does not work, paste this into your browser: https://us02web.zoom.us/w/86123966915?tk=MVbL9-TlSZ6d33UL_Qbp-tJKpZcRtnu5uz… To keep this webinar secure, do not share this link publicly. * Join via audio Canada: +12042727920,,86123966915#<tel:+12042727920,,86123966915#> or +14388097799,,86123966915#<tel:+14388097799,,86123966915#> Or, dial: Canada: +1 204 272 7920 or +1 438 809 7799 or +1 587 328 1099 or +1 613 209 3054 or +1 647 374 4685 or +1 647 558 0588 or +1 778 907 2071 US: +1 267 831 0333 or +1 301 715 8592 or +1 720 928 9299 or +1 206 337 9723 United Kingdom: +44 203 901 7895 More International numbers<https://us02web.zoom.us/u/keJ2aM36pw> Webinar ID: 861 2396 6915 Passcode: 0230506 [https://us02st3.zoom.us/static/6.3.15784/image/new/twitter.png] <https://twitter.com/zoom_us> [https://us02st3.zoom.us/static/6.3.15784/image/new/linkedin.png] <https://www.linkedin.com/company/zoom-video-communications/> [https://us02st3.zoom.us/static/6.3.15784/image/new/zoomblog.png] <https://blog.zoom.us/> +1.888.799.9666<tel:1-888-799-9666> Copyright ©2023 Zoom Video Communications, Inc. Visit Zoom.us<http://zoom.us> 55 Almaden Blvd San Jose, CA 95113<https://www.google.com/maps/place/55+Almaden+Blvd,+San+Jose,+CA+95113/@37.3…> [https://us02st3.zoom.us/static/6.3.15784/image/new/ZoomLogo3.png] <https://zoom.us>

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9/13 PEMC WG meeting cancelled
by Christopher Williams 13 Sep '23

13 Sep '23

Hello Everyone, Due to conflicts and heads down work on the report we are going to cancel the WG meeting for tomorrow. As a reminder, next week on the 20th we will begin discussion of the new draft privacy requirements. Thanks, Christopher

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