November 2019 - WG-UMA - mailman.kantarainitiative.org

Just posted a new implementation on our Implementations page!
by Eve Maler 23 Nov '19

23 Nov '19

Nancy sent me news of an UMA implementation her company has done -- you can read about it here: https://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/uma/UMA+Implementations#UM… @UMAWG is spreading the news and it's also on our wiki home page. Will you help out? Thanks in advance! https://twitter.com/UMAWG/status/1198015446475296768 (BTW, happy Thanksgiving to everyone who is celebrating it next week.) *Eve Maler*Cell or Signal +1 425.345.6756 | Skype: xmlgrrl | Twitter: @xmlgrrl

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Draft minutes of UMA telecon 2019-11-21
by Eve Maler 21 Nov '19

21 Nov '19

https://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/uma/UMA+telecon+2019-11-21 MinutesRoll call Quorum was not reached. Approve minutes - - Approve minutes of UMA telecon 2019-10-03 <https://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/uma/UMA+telecon+2019-10-03> Deferred. Decentralized news Adrian has news to share; see his document <http://bit.ly/MVProtocol>. Eve has been working on an article with Lisa L on consent, and they have struggled with the lack of concrete flows in decentralized identity for consent. George concurs with the lack of concreteness out there; it's a problem for interoperability with DID methods to date. Adrian notes that there is an open meeting planned for tomorrow <https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-credentials/2019Nov/0037.html> to discuss (meta-discuss?) how to get started in bringing all the various streams of work to standards bodies. Resolving DIDs and telling wallets what VCs you want and other use cases will rely on commonality communications. It's possible to build POCs to illustrate concepts, but it doesn't build ecosystems. We walked through Adrian's document. It focuses on the Alice-to-Bob use case to keep things simple (UMAnitarians are very familiar with that). Alice-to-Alice is just a subset. MVP (minimum viable protocol) is represented by the "narrow waist" of the hourglass. Slide 5 introduces an UMA mapping to the entities. Slide 7 makes the resource owner their own issuer, interestingly. The hot conversation in the decentralized community is the two data storage options on slide 8; the bold elements are the complementary strengths on either side, the goal being to not be stuck with just Apple or Google as the wallet choice. Some discussion ensued about the larger ecosystem/adoption questions surrounding how to privacy-engineer personal data choice and control. Eve shared Bob Blakley's remarks from TechVision Chrysalis on decentralized identity about wallet binding/"evil Alice" concerns (which Eve supported contemporaneously). XYZ / RAR / PAR news Eve described the OAuth 2.1 proposal from the IETF 106 OAuth 1 session and its enthusiasm for code+PKCE (and a further set of protections). George is concerned about this being insufficient for mobile wallet-binding protection. Adrian echoes this concern. How to ensure trust when talking to the correct client (instance, not just class)? Currently, RAR (along with PAR) is designed to be a relatively lightweight extension on top of today's OAuth. In OAuth, Alice is sent to her bank/ASPSP (AS) to authorize or deny the transaction. In UMA, how would the AS know how to let Alice set her policy, which would be the equivalent operation? That's why we had a resource (and scope) registration step ahead of time. The fact that pre-registration was in the RO context was beneficial (essential) for the various parts of the flow/token ecosystem of UMA. But maybe we can use the RAR JSON data structure to inform our registration step. George says he's "stealing" that structure for what he calls transaction tokens, for internal microservices management. Attendees As of 16 Jul 2019, quorum <https://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/uma/Participant+Roster> is 5 of 9. (Domenico, Peter, Sal, Thomas, Andi, Maciej, Eve, Mike, Cigdem) 1. Domenico 2. Maciej 3. Eve 4. Cigdem Non-voting participants: - Adrian - George - Scott - Thomas - Nancy Regrets: - Peter *Eve Maler*Cell or Signal +1 425.345.6756 | Skype: xmlgrrl | Twitter: @xmlgrrl

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Planning for Thursday's UMA WG call
by Eve Maler 20 Nov '19

20 Nov '19

As my recent note mentioned, the plan is to have an UMA WG "technical" call this Thursday. I'd like to discuss the RAR/PAR specs particularly, since we haven't fully yet, and catch up on XYZ. Here is the previous thread discussing RAR <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/kantara-initiative-uma-wg/56_fskNkn…>, and here is a handy IETF 106-related blog post <https://oauth.net/events/2019-11-ietf106/> with relevant spec links. (I attended the TXAuth BOF session remotely and plan to dial in to OAuth session 1 tonight.) If we meet, will we have sufficient attendees to have an interesting conversation? Please send a note in this thread or on Skype if you can make it. Thanks. *Eve Maler*Cell or Signal +1 425.345.6756 | Skype: xmlgrrl | Twitter: @xmlgrrl

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Upcoming UMA WG meetings
by Eve Maler 17 Nov '19

17 Nov '19

Hi all– I need to make some adjustments to upcoming UMA telecons due to shifting schedules. Here is the plan for the rest of the calendar year. Don't forget you can ask to receive a calendar invitation if you aren't already on them. Tuesday 8am PT meeting series (business-legal framework, goal: draft second report): - Tue Nov 19: *need to cancel (new)* - Tue Nov 26: canceled due to US holiday - Tue Dec 3: meeting - Tue Dec 10: meeting - Tue Dec 17: *I need to shift this a half-hour earlier due to an interfering meeting* - Tue Dec 25: will cancel due to holiday - Tue Dec 31: will cancel due to holiday Thursday 6am PT meeting series (technical, main goals: extension/XYZ use case collection, charter refresh): - Thu Nov 21: meeting - Thu Nov 28: canceled due to US holiday - Thu Dec 5: meeting - Thu Dec 12: meeting *(will call for agenda items and may cancel if none)* - Thu Dec 19: meeting *(will call for agenda items and may cancel if none)* - Thu Dec 26: will cancel due to holiday - Thu Jan 2: will cancel due to holiday *Eve Maler*Cell or Signal +1 425.345.6756 | Skype: xmlgrrl | Twitter: @xmlgrrl

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Fwd: [KI-LC] Fwd: Call for Speakers: European Identity & Cloud Conference 2020
by Eve Maler 12 Nov '19

12 Nov '19

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Fwd: [KI-LC] Fwd: Grow your reputation as an IAPP P.S.R. 2020 speaker
by Eve Maler 12 Nov '19

12 Nov '19

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No Thursday UMA WG meeting until Nov 21 / RAR
by Eve Maler 07 Nov '19

07 Nov '19

When we come back, I'd like to take a look at the current state of transactional and XYZ specs and see if we can puzzle out equivalent flows for what we can already accomplish. I'm particularly interested to see how RAR stacks up. Has anyone gotten experience with it yet? *Eve Maler*Cell or Signal +1 425.345.6756 | Skype: xmlgrrl | Twitter: @xmlgrrl

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Notes from 2019-11-05 UMA business-legal framework telecon
by Eve Maler 06 Nov '19

06 Nov '19

https://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/uma/UMA+legal+subgroup+not… 2019-11-05 Attending: Eve, Nancy, Tim (regrets: Cigdem, Andi) We have been dealing with the "multiple RRAs" state table as if there is always and only a single DS. For simplicity, perhaps we should continue in this vein. It would be insanely complex to imagine that there are multiple DS's as well. The "co-equal rights" question is about resource administration rights specifically. However, a number of real-life use cases have the "multiple DS" situation: joint bank accounts where both account holders should have exactly equal rights, etc. In implementation, this is a problem and is generally handled badly, in that one person is made "primary" and the other(s) "secondary. In some use cases this divide is appropriate (main householder vs. other people in the household for digital streaming services), but for things like a joint bank account or other spouse-type membership accounts, both/all holders should really be co-equal – until such time as there is a divorce or other split and the number of DS's goes back down to exactly 1. What if two brothers share a bank account and one of them has to be removed from managing it for malfeasance and the other brother is managing it for the two of them, somewhat like in the Gravity Payments case? To clarify whether we need to focus on multiple-DS use cases and whether they are sufficiently valuable to solve, Eve will ask an FSI/bank expert to join us at our next meeting. Nancy will do the same for a genomic data expert. The current use cases that we've mentioned under State 3 in the table ("joint bank account each with equal access, joint tenancy") look like they're not actually correct because they probably refer to multiple DS's, so we have to sort out whether we're going to treat multiple DS's or not, and move the use cases over if so. *AI:* Nancy and Eve: Find experts to join our next call to establish existence and priority of multiple-DS use cases in different sectors. *Eve Maler*Cell or Signal +1 425.345.6756 | Skype: xmlgrrl | Twitter: @xmlgrrl

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Attending IETF 106 remotely
by Eve Maler 04 Nov '19

04 Nov '19

If anyone is in the same boat as I am and can't attend IETF 106 (in Singapore) in person, you may want to register to attend remotely. There is a new "txauth" BOF to discuss Justin's XYZ draft that will be meeting, and the OAuth WG will be discussing the RAR and PAR drafts among other things. All are relevant to our interests. Here is the remote registration link: https://www6.ietf.org/registration/ietf106/remotereg.py *Eve Maler*Cell or Signal +1 425.345.6756 | Skype: xmlgrrl | Twitter: @xmlgrrl

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Reminder: UMA business-legal framework telecon 2019-11-05
by Eve Maler 04 Nov '19

04 Nov '19

We meet *8am PT* on Tuesdays at https://global.gotomeeting.com/join/857787301 -- see our calendar here <https://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/uma/Calendar>. Please see our notes page <https://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/uma/UMA+legal+subgroup+not…> for previous notes and handy links. We'll continue to work through our GDoc. This time we'll get to the RRA (resource rights administrator)-centered states, state changes, and use cases. *Eve Maler*Cell or Signal +1 425.345.6756 | Skype: xmlgrrl | Twitter: @xmlgrrl

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