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Draft minutes of UMA telecon 2015-06-25 (call next week is at APAC-friendly time -- see calendar!)
by Eve Maler 27 Jun '15

27 Jun '15

http://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/uma/UMA+telecon+2015-06-25 Minutes Our next call will be at the APAC-friendly time. Roll call Quorum was reached. Minutes approval MOTION: Andi moves: Approve the minutes of UMA telecon 2015-05-28 <http://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/uma/UMA+telecon+2015-05-28> and UMA telecon 2015-06-04 <http://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/uma/UMA+telecon+2015-06-04>, and read into the minutes the notes of UMA telecon 2015-06-11 <http://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/uma/UMA+telecon+2015-06-11>. APPROVED by unanimous consent. Plenary report Kantara's work streams are increasingly significant. The two streams are Connected Life (where UMA sits), and Trust Services. The IRM and Identities of Things work streams are very cool, and Consent Receipts has major synergies with our work. The presentations were of high quality. Links to materials are coming soon. Eve gave an UMA wireframe demo using a "connected car" use case. The Twitter stream from the plenary is here <https://twitter.com/search?q=%23trustkantara&src=typd>. Interop tests Since the last time we talked about this, the OIDC test suite actually launched. Thinking in terms of all of UMA, OIDC, SAML, and OAuth, it's useful to come up with a lowest common denominator. Roland has in mind a common platform, with branches that are specific to each of the four. In the last week, he's been preparing a new version of the OIDC suite – "V2.0". He'll be ready to move to the other protocols soon. A SAML project is getting going, with Internet2, the Austrian government, and others contributing to the costs. The actual writing of the test suite is less work than test design and result interpretation. Rushing to implementation may almost work against our goals. Since a standard is written in natural language, a test suite "of record" ultimately becomes kind of a harder-edged version of the spec because it's machine-readable. It's "the spec" as far as implementers using the spec are concerned. Our goal is not to do what the OIDC conformance test suite developers did in a few cases, which was to make the test suite tighter than the specs. If we find any deltas in interpretation that require changes to the spec, we will go through the appropriate process to change it. But our goal is consistency. How should we prioritize? What entity/ies should we test first? The AS is the target Roland and Eve were thinking of first. The RS is perhaps another candidate since it's server-side, though it shares the problem that OAuth has always had regarding interop testing, in that most of its interface is entirely unstandardized. The earliest stuff in the spec is the "least interesting" from an UMA perspective. But the most core UMA stuff needs tester intervention. This actually gets into the question of natural variability of use cases that exercise different options in the spec, such as claims-gathering from human requesting parties vs. autonomous web service clients. Could we use "profiles" to distinguish these for testing purposes? Justin suggests standard sets of attributes a la OIDC for UMA. Mike points out that the OIDC claims are LDAP-unfriendly due to their use of underscores. Eve points out that OIDC claims are available for standardized exchange in UMA today. So are we interested in a interop testing profile so we can just "get on with it" as an interop simplifying assumption? It sounds like that's where our heads are at for now. Does it make sense to bat around a single test (or test of related tests) on email? There are no juicy in-person opportunities coming up until IIW, by which time we hope to have a test suite ready to try out. Here's <https://rp.certification.openid.net:8080/test_list> how spec references might look, in the form of the emerging OIDC RP test suite. (The OP tests didn't have this, and it led to endless queries.) August/September will be the active test suite development period for the WG. Outstanding AIs AI: Thomas: Review the charter for potential revisions in this annual cycle. AI: Marcelo: Review the Wikipedia page(s) for potential revision (multiple languages). DONE. Eve can take the comments and revise the English, from which others can revise the other language. AI: Tim: Expound on the licensing idea in email. AI: Sal: Investigate IP implications of formal liaison activities with other Kantara groups with the LC, and ultimately draft an LC Note as warranted. AI: Gil: Edit the UIG to add Ishan's content and excerpt it for Eve to add to the FAQ, pointing everyone to the UIG. AI: Sal: Fill out IDESG form to have UMA adopted as a recommended standard for use in the IDESG framework. AI: Mike: Rework UIG section on organizations as ROs and RqPs. AI: Eve: Update GitHub. AI: Maciej: Write as many sections for the UIG as he can. AI: Justin: Write a UIG section on default-deny and race conditions. Attendees As of 11 Jun 2015, quorum is 8 of 14. Eve Arlene Mordeno - attended CIS UMA preso - involved in CSA and IAM generally Sal Mark D Domenico Marcelo Andi Mike Maciej Thomas François Ishan Non-voting participants: Sarah Justin Roland Abhi - now based in the US! Katie Eve Maler | cell +1 425.345.6756 | Skype: xmlgrrl | Twitter: @xmlgrrl | Calendar: xmlgrrl(a)gmail.com

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Re: [WG-UMA] Agenda for UMA telecon 2015-06-11 - special 90-minute meeting with Roland
by Abhimanyu Yadav 25 Jun '15

25 Jun '15

Dear all, After a bit of a hiatus, while I was taking a break to relocate from the UK to San Francisco in the US, I am excited to be able to rejoin our regular calls, and this working group as a non-voting but participating member. While I have met some of you in person, I see there are new members in the group as well. So therefore for a quick intro: I lead the services group at Simeio and I have several years experience in customer facing roles, assisting clients in multiple verticals define IAM strategies and deliver solutions. I hope I can contribute to this group in a meaningful way, and look forward to the opportunity to working with you all. Regards, -Abhi -- *Abhimanyu Yadav **| Vice President* (m) +1 512 771 8659 Identity: Secure, Intelligent, Managed www.simeiosolutions.com On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 8:23 AM, Eve Maler <eve(a)xmlgrrl.com> wrote: > http://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/uma/UMA+telecon+2015-06-25 > Date and Time > > - *Thu Jun 11* 9-10:30am PT - *special extra-long meeting* > - Voice: Skype: +99051000000481 or US +1-805-309-2350 (international > dial-in lines <https://www.turbobridge.com/join.html>), room code > 178-2540# > - Screen sharing: http://join.me/findthomas > - UMA calendar: > http://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/uma/Calendar > > Agenda > > - Roll call > - Minutes approval > - Sample motion: Approve the minutes of UMA telecon 2015-05-28 > <http://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/uma/UMA+telecon+2015-05-28> > and UMA telecon 2015-06-04 > <http://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/uma/UMA+telecon+2015-06-04>, > and read into the minutes the notes of UMA telecon 2015-06-11 > <http://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/uma/UMA+telecon+2015-06-11> > . > - Quick hits: > - Kantara virtual plenary report > - AI status > - Interop testing - create single Platonic ideal test writeup > - AOB > - > > > Eve Maler | cell +1 425.345.6756 | Skype: xmlgrrl | Twitter: @xmlgrrl | > Calendar: xmlgrrl(a)gmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > WG-UMA mailing list > WG-UMA(a)kantarainitiative.org > http://kantarainitiative.org/mailman/listinfo/wg-uma > > -- The information in this message may contain confidential information and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the individual(s) named. Access to this email by anyone else is unauthorized. Please notify the sender immediately if you have received this email by mistake and delete this email from your system. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free, as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. When addressed to our clients any decisions or recommendations contained in this email are subject to the terms and conditions expressed our contract and related statement of work letter(s)

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FYI, the UMA-dev list has now been removed
by Eve Maler 24 Jun '15

24 Jun '15

…as was previously announced. Here was the note sent to that list on June 8: "As this list doesn’t receive any legitimate traffic, and (lately) quite a lot of illegitimate traffic, and as it has never really seen the traffic we anticipated, we’ve decided to shut it down. We encourage interested parties to join the wg-uma list (http://kantarainitiative.org/mailman/listinfo/wg-uma/) either as lurkers or as full participants (http://signup.kantarainitiative.org/?selectedGroup=11) We may revisit this decision if circumstances change in future. If you have any questions, please let me know." Eve Eve Maler | cell +1 425.345.6756 | Skype: xmlgrrl | Twitter: @xmlgrrl | Calendar: xmlgrrl(a)gmail.com

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