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Draft minutes of UMA telecon 2022-02-10
by Alec Laws 10 Feb '22

10 Feb '22

https://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/uma/UMA+telecon+2022-02-10 MinutesRoll call - Quorum: No Approve minutes - Approve minutes of UMA telecon 2021-09-09 <https://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/uma/UMA+telecon+2021-09-09> , UMA telecon 2021-09-16 <https://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/uma/UMA+telecon+2021-09-16> , UMA telecon 2021-09-23 <https://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/uma/UMA+telecon+2021-09-23> , UMA telecon 2021-09-30 <https://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/uma/UMA+telecon+2021-09-30> , UMA telecon 2021-10-14 <https://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/uma/UMA+telecon+2021-10-14> , UMA telecon 2021-10-21 <https://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/uma/UMA+telecon+2021-10-21> , UMA telecon 2021-10-28 <https://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/uma/UMA+telecon+2021-10-28> , UMA telecon 2021-11-04 <https://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/uma/UMA+telecon+2021-11-04> , UMA telecon 2021-11-18 <https://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/uma/UMA+telecon+2021-11-18> , UMA telecon 2021-12-02 <https://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/uma/UMA+telecon+2021-12-02> , UMA telecon 2021-12-09 <https://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/uma/UMA+telecon+2021-12-09> , UMA telecon 2021-12-16 <https://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/uma/UMA+telecon+2021-12-16> , UMA telecon 2021-12-23 <https://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/uma/UMA+telecon+2021-12-23> , UMA telecon 2021-12-23 <https://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/uma/UMA+telecon+2021-12-23> , UMA telecon 2022-01-06 <https://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/uma/UMA+telecon+2022-01-06> , UMA telecon 2022-01-13 <https://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/uma/UMA+telecon+2022-01-13> , UMA telecon 2022-01-20 <https://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/uma/UMA+telecon+2022-01-20> , UMA telecon 2022-01-27 <https://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/uma/UMA+telecon+2022-01-27> , UMA telecon 2022-02-03 <https://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/uma/UMA+telecon+2022-02-03> Deferred *Reminder: CRWeb Demo at the next Kantara LC call (Feb 16 @12PM EST)* iGrant.io <http://igrant.io/>, Gataca, and Human Colossus will demonstrate how consent notice, or data agreement as it will be called in the demo, is signed between issuers/verifiers (data controllers) with holders (data subjects). The data agreement sets a clear usage purpose, what personal data is collected, how long data is retained, and which lawful basis for processing and other information. The data agreement was initially based on Kantara Consent Receipt and now is being standardized within the ISO standard 27560. https://zoom.us/j/94897867446?pwd=YSsxdjZLMzFmUmhNd2NBMnlwbEZHZz09 <https://zoom.us/j/94897867446?pwd=YSsxdjZLMzFmUmhNd2NBMnlwbEZHZz09%3Chttps:…> Review progress on Julie Use-case Report Please find the new working document here: Julie Use-case Report <https://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/uma/Julie+Use-case+Report> - reviewed the action plan - agreed on strategy for images what are alternative techniques for patient mediated exchange? - one challenge is that "UMA is not SMARTonFHIR" → SOF is very limited should there be a companion technical document/guidance that goes or follows the Julie report? more specificity for those who want to have this problem https://www.udap.org/ UDAP #1, client attestation → clients have a software statement with attestations from one of more other entities (trusted 3rd party). UMA can use UDAP as a valid client registration strategy UDAP #2, tiered authorization → clients provide a hint to the AS about what IDP the end user may be able to authenticate with. The AS can then federate to that IDP - or some other IDP. AN UMA AS federating to an IDP is very 'normal' UMA deployment Can/should we create some UDAP & UMA white paper or implementor guidance? UMA vs Other specification - there is a chart from a couple years ago - compare protocols & features (eg a product comparison type matrix with [image: (tick)] and [image: (error)] 's) Article: NFTs offer new method to control personal health information <https://www.eurekalert.org/news-releases/942291> Potential Future Work Items / Meeting Topics - UMA vs (OAuth, OIDC, GNAP, UDAP, ....) - compare protocols & features (eg a product comparison type matrix with [image: (tick)] and [image: (error)] 's) - Confluence clean up, archive old items and promote the latest & greatest - Review of the email-poc correlated authorization specification - A financial use-case report (following the Julie healthcare template) - either open banking or pensions dashboard - openbanking is to FHIR(data model) as FAPI is to SMARTonFHIR(authZ protocol profile) Upcoming Conferences Alec will be attending HIMSS Nancy will be at Vive the week before Are there specific messages we want to promote to those healthcare communities? - https://www.himss.org/ March 14 -18 | Orlando, FL & Digital - https://www.viveevent.com/ MARCH 6 - 9, 2022 - A *new* health IT conference | Nancy is planning to attend - Internet Identity Workshop <https://internetidentityworkshop.com/> 34 is April 26-28 - https://identiverse.com/ June 21-24, 2022 Denver, Colorado | Call for presentations is now closed AOB Attendees As of October 26, 2020, quorum <http://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/uma/Participant+Roster> is 5 of 9. (Michael, Domenico, Peter, Sal, Thomas, Andi, Alec, Eve, Steve) Voting: 1. Steve 2. Alec 3. Eve 4. Sal Non-voting participants: 1. Nancy 2. Scott F Regrets:

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Agenda for UMA telecon 2022-02-10
by Alec Laws 09 Feb '22

09 Feb '22

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Draft minutes for UMA telecon 2022-02-03
by Alec Laws 03 Feb '22

03 Feb '22

https://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/uma/UMA+telecon+2022-02-03 MinutesRoll call - Quorum: No Approve minutes - Approve minutes of UMA telecon 2021-09-09 <https://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/uma/UMA+telecon+2021-09-09> , UMA telecon 2021-09-16 <https://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/uma/UMA+telecon+2021-09-16> , UMA telecon 2021-09-23 <https://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/uma/UMA+telecon+2021-09-23> , UMA telecon 2021-09-30 <https://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/uma/UMA+telecon+2021-09-30> , UMA telecon 2021-10-14 <https://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/uma/UMA+telecon+2021-10-14> , UMA telecon 2021-10-21 <https://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/uma/UMA+telecon+2021-10-21> , UMA telecon 2021-10-28 <https://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/uma/UMA+telecon+2021-10-28> , UMA telecon 2021-11-04 <https://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/uma/UMA+telecon+2021-11-04> , UMA telecon 2021-11-18 <https://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/uma/UMA+telecon+2021-11-18> , UMA telecon 2021-12-02 <https://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/uma/UMA+telecon+2021-12-02> , UMA telecon 2021-12-09 <https://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/uma/UMA+telecon+2021-12-09> , UMA telecon 2021-12-16 <https://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/uma/UMA+telecon+2021-12-16> , UMA telecon 2021-12-23 <https://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/uma/UMA+telecon+2021-12-23> , UMA telecon 2021-12-23 <https://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/uma/UMA+telecon+2021-12-23> , UMA telecon 2022-01-06 <https://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/uma/UMA+telecon+2022-01-06> , UMA telecon 2022-01-13 <https://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/uma/UMA+telecon+2022-01-13> , UMA telecon 2022-01-20 <https://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/uma/UMA+telecon+2022-01-20> , UMA telecon 2022-01-27 <https://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/uma/UMA+telecon+2022-01-27> Deferred Review progress on Julie Use-case Report Please find the new working document here: Julie Use-case Report <https://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/uma/Julie+Use-case+Report> Nancy has made a lot of progress on the last few sections, she will merge into the google doc shortly Who tags FHIR objects with sens/conf scopes? Need value sets so that specific codes/values automatically tag. Then the RS can filter if not included, or register resources with the appropriate sens/conf scopes What data is redacted in transit, is the intention transferred also? How does the policy move to the new system. For example, today notes are usually not shared, since who knows what it's it. This is why data tagging is required to be solved. Should the client know what scopes were removed, or that they don't have access to sensitive data? Upcoming Conferences - https://www.himss.org/ March 14 -18 | Orlando, FL & Digital - https://www.viveevent.com/ MARCH 6 - 9, 2022 - A *new* health IT conference | Nancy is planning to attend - Internet Identity Workshop <https://internetidentityworkshop.com/> 34 is April 26-28 - https://identiverse.com/ June 21-24, 2022 Denver, Colorado | Call for presentations is now closed AOB Attendees As of October 26, 2020, quorum <http://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/uma/Participant+Roster> is 5 of 9. (Michael, Domenico, Peter, Sal, Thomas, Andi, Alec, Eve, Steve) Voting: 1. Domenico 2. Alec 3. Steve 4. Sal Non-voting participants: 1. Nancy 2. Zhen

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Agenda for UMA telecon 2022-02-03
by Alec Laws 02 Feb '22

02 Feb '22

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Agenda for UMA telecon 2022-01-27
by Alec Laws 26 Jan '22

26 Jan '22

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Draft minutes of UMA telecon 2022-01-20
by Alec Laws 20 Jan '22

20 Jan '22

https://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/uma/UMA+telecon+2022-01-20 MinutesRoll call - Quorum: No Approve minutes - Approve minutes of UMA telecon 2021-09-09 <https://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/uma/UMA+telecon+2021-09-09> , UMA telecon 2021-09-16 <https://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/uma/UMA+telecon+2021-09-16> , UMA telecon 2021-09-23 <https://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/uma/UMA+telecon+2021-09-23> , UMA telecon 2021-09-30 <https://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/uma/UMA+telecon+2021-09-30> , UMA telecon 2021-10-14 <https://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/uma/UMA+telecon+2021-10-14> , UMA telecon 2021-10-21 <https://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/uma/UMA+telecon+2021-10-21> , UMA telecon 2021-10-28 <https://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/uma/UMA+telecon+2021-10-28> , UMA telecon 2021-11-04 <https://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/uma/UMA+telecon+2021-11-04> , UMA telecon 2021-11-18 <https://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/uma/UMA+telecon+2021-11-18> , UMA telecon 2021-12-02 <https://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/uma/UMA+telecon+2021-12-02> , UMA telecon 2021-12-09 <https://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/uma/UMA+telecon+2021-12-09> , UMA telecon 2021-12-16 <https://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/uma/UMA+telecon+2021-12-16> , UMA telecon 2021-12-23 <https://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/uma/UMA+telecon+2021-12-23> , UMA telecon 2021-12-23 <https://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/uma/UMA+telecon+2021-12-23> , UMA telecon 2022-01-06 <https://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/uma/UMA+telecon+2022-01-06> , UMA telecon 2022-01-13 <https://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/uma/UMA+telecon+2022-01-13> Deferred Review progress on Julie Use-case Report Please find the new working document here: Julie Use-case Report <https://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/uma/Julie+Use-case+Report> Action Items - Move to google doc for easier commenting/collaboration: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1aG88GJMxOdYoEjQIAyzoTrUnFud-cnpmPD1rt9X… - Alec to complete section 5 - add HEART/tagging to section 4 - section 6 - section 7, Nancy will continue after a Upcoming Conferences - Identity North is Jan 25-26 - is this happening? - https://www.himss.org/ March 14 -18 | Orlando, FL & Digital - Internet Identity Workshop <https://internetidentityworkshop.com/> 34 is April 26-28 - https://identiverse.com/ June 21-24, 2022 Denver, Colorado | Call for presentations is now closed AOB - need to do a proper view of the email-poc proposals - maybe queued after getting the first report done (2nd one will be easier) - can we create clear UMA extensions to email/smtp for attachments/data exchange Attendees As of October 26, 2020, quorum <http://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/uma/Participant+Roster> is 5 of 9. (Michael, Domenico, Peter, Sal, Thomas, Andi, Alec, Eve, Steve) Voting: 1. Eve 2. Steve 3. Alec 4. Domenico Non-voting participants: 1. Nancy Regrets:

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Agenda for UMA telecon 2022-01-20
by Alec Laws 19 Jan '22

19 Jan '22

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Draft minutes of UMA telecon 2022-01-13
by Alec Laws 13 Jan '22

13 Jan '22

https://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/uma/UMA+telecon+2022-01-13 MinutesRoll call - Quorum: No Approve minutes - Approve minutes of UMA telecon 2021-09-09 <https://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/uma/UMA+telecon+2021-09-09> , UMA telecon 2021-09-16 <https://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/uma/UMA+telecon+2021-09-16> , UMA telecon 2021-09-23 <https://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/uma/UMA+telecon+2021-09-23> , UMA telecon 2021-09-30 <https://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/uma/UMA+telecon+2021-09-30> , UMA telecon 2021-10-14 <https://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/uma/UMA+telecon+2021-10-14> , UMA telecon 2021-10-21 <https://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/uma/UMA+telecon+2021-10-21> , UMA telecon 2021-10-28 <https://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/uma/UMA+telecon+2021-10-28> , UMA telecon 2021-11-04 <https://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/uma/UMA+telecon+2021-11-04> , UMA telecon 2021-11-18 <https://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/uma/UMA+telecon+2021-11-18> , UMA telecon 2021-12-02 <https://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/uma/UMA+telecon+2021-12-02> , UMA telecon 2021-12-09 <https://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/uma/UMA+telecon+2021-12-09> , UMA telecon 2021-12-16 <https://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/uma/UMA+telecon+2021-12-16> , UMA telecon 2021-12-23 <https://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/uma/UMA+telecon+2021-12-23> , UMA telecon 2021-12-23 <https://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/uma/UMA+telecon+2021-12-23> , UMA telecon 2022-01-06 <https://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/uma/UMA+telecon+2022-01-06> Deferred Review progress on Julie Use-case Report Please find the new working document here: Julie Use-case Report <https://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/uma/Julie+Use-case+Report> Aligned on structure of later sections and assigned to some people ahead of next weeks call. Please feel free to review/comment your thoughts on the report directly! Upcoming Conferences - Identity North is Jan 25-26 - https://www.himss.org/ March 14 -18 | Orlando, FL & Digital - Internet Identity Workshop <https://internetidentityworkshop.com/> 34 is April 26-28 - https://identiverse.com/ June 21-24, 2022 Denver, Colorado | Call for presentations is now closed AOB We will cancel the call next week Dec 30 due to US holiday. Attendees As of October 26, 2020, quorum <http://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/uma/Participant+Roster> is 5 of 9. (Michael, Domenico, Peter, Sal, Thomas, Andi, Alec, Eve, Steve) Voting: 1. Steve 2. Alec 3. Peter Non-voting participants: 1. Nancy 2. Zhen

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Agenda for UMA telecon 2022-01-13
by Alec Laws 12 Jan '22

12 Jan '22

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Draft minutes of UMA telecon 2022-01-06
by Alec Laws 06 Jan '22

06 Jan '22

https://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/uma/UMA+telecon+2022-01-06 MinutesRoll call - Quorum: No Approve minutes - Approve minutes of UMA telecon 2021-09-09 <https://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/uma/UMA+telecon+2021-09-09> , UMA telecon 2021-09-16 <https://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/uma/UMA+telecon+2021-09-16> , UMA telecon 2021-09-23 <https://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/uma/UMA+telecon+2021-09-23> , UMA telecon 2021-09-30 <https://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/uma/UMA+telecon+2021-09-30> , UMA telecon 2021-10-14 <https://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/uma/UMA+telecon+2021-10-14> , UMA telecon 2021-10-21 <https://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/uma/UMA+telecon+2021-10-21> , UMA telecon 2021-10-28 <https://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/uma/UMA+telecon+2021-10-28> , UMA telecon 2021-11-04 <https://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/uma/UMA+telecon+2021-11-04> , UMA telecon 2021-11-18 <https://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/uma/UMA+telecon+2021-11-18> , UMA telecon 2021-12-02 <https://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/uma/UMA+telecon+2021-12-02> , UMA telecon 2021-12-09 <https://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/uma/UMA+telecon+2021-12-09> , UMA telecon 2021-12-16 <https://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/uma/UMA+telecon+2021-12-16> , UMA telecon 2021-12-23 <https://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/uma/UMA+telecon+2021-12-23> , UMA telecon 2021-12-23 <https://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/uma/UMA+telecon+2021-12-23> Deferred Review progress on Julie Use-case Report Please find the new working document here: Julie Use-case Report <https://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/uma/Julie+Use-case+Report> - can we separate the tech from the use case in section 1? - ie remove references to heart/uma/fhir until after it's introduced - Julie timeline, remove anything not immediately relevant to the story (allows some referencable events to ) Three key events - asthma (uma + specialist) - turns 13 - sex + alcohol out of scope: pharmacy Policy stack - Eve to draft a BOLTS diagram or policy stack Overview of heart/uma - there is a lot of sentences in the business legal paper that can be re-used How can technology be applied to improve Julie and her Mother's experience of this health journey? do we separate the state transtions from the sharing events? - can have a section for each of the three events? Who is running the UMA AS? the PCP or the Payer? Upcoming Conferences - https://identiverse.com/ Call for presentations is open, accepting proposals until Tomorrow!! - Identity North is Jan 25-26 - Internet Identity Workshop <https://internetidentityworkshop.com/> 34 is April 26-28 AOB We will cancel the call next week Dec 30 due to US holiday. Attendees As of October 26, 2020, quorum <http://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/uma/Participant+Roster> is 5 of 9. (Michael, Domenico, Peter, Sal, Thomas, Andi, Alec, Eve, Steve) Voting: 1. Andi 2. Alec 3. Eve Non-voting participants: 1. Nancy 2. George 3. Anik 4. Scott Regrets:

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