Yes, lots of variables here.

You're not going to get 100% conversion to web apps on mobile devices, of course. Some functions just need to be offline, and some need local computation that exceed a browser's capability. Health and IoT are rife with these...

Here's a scenario that suggests native apps working "for good". An AS could publish a native app that offers push notifications/buzzes your smart watch when someone tries to access a resource of yours (Domenico made wireframes of this a long time ago).


Eve Maler
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On Fri, Jan 1, 2016 at 4:09 PM, <tim@bridgeidentity.com> wrote:

What if your “phone’ was a Zero Client or VM.

What if No Apps are running on your “Phone/Device”?

What if your “Phone” is just a Tor client?

 

 

 

From: wg-uma-bounces@kantarainitiative.org [mailto:wg-uma-bounces@kantarainitiative.org] On Behalf Of Adrian Gropper
Sent: Friday, January 01, 2016 5:42 PM
To: Eve Maler
Cc: wg-uma@kantarainitiative.org WG
Subject: Re: [WG-UMA] Can Web standards make mobile apps obsolete?

 

The apps vs. standards landscape changes when a personal UMA AS becomes as accessible to consumers as a smartphone. What’s good for the goose is good for the gander - in that web apps will run even better on a personal AS that also loads apps.

 

I can imagine my smartphone with three kinds of apps:

·         native apps

·         web apps running on hosted servers with access to UMA-standard resources

·         web apps running on my personal AS with access to UMA-standard resources


The third option has all of the benefits of the native app and the web apps with none of the downsides. A hybrid native app + personal web app running on a HealthKit-style platform (“Apple will not see your data.” is a very simple privacy policy.) and on my personal AS would be just as easy to install and use as any of the alternatives that leak “behavioral surplus” to either Apple or Google.

Adrian

 

On Fri, Jan 1, 2016 at 5:29 PM, Eve Maler <eve@xmlgrrl.com> wrote:

(Responding to one list at a time so that VRM posters who aren't on wg-uma don't get trapped in moderation hell...)

 

It's not surprising that for space reasons they focused on a limited set of issues, but agree that it's a really good article nonetheless. It seems there's a web-native/app-native swing every few years, for all the reasons they state. I guess I'm a little surprised that the swing is still as robust as it is -- the web as such hasn't been entirely killed off yet?? :-)

 

 


 

Eve Maler
Cell +1 425.345.6756 | Skype: xmlgrrl | Twitter: @xmlgrrl

 

 

On Fri, Jan 1, 2016 at 1:46 PM, Adrian Gropper <agropper@healthurl.com> wrote:

It's fascinating to see how this well-done article completely ignores the privacy perspective.

Happy New Year

 

Adrian

 

 

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