+1 Mark. UMA enables data to be accessed by reference instead of by value and reduces the need to copy it. With UMA, authorization servers become the primary point of aggregation (as well as notice for transparency) and the need for data brokers and deletion problems is reduced.

UMA shifts the discussion to control and transparency of surveillance and aggregation, and it scales to serve personal, family, local, virtual community, national, and international "clouds".

Adrian



On Tue, Oct 6, 2015 at 11:18 AM, Mark Lizar <mark@smartspecies.com> wrote:
Very much agree Jon,  

Personal data control, what is achieved through ‘real' consent,  is required for many things - among them is managing commercial relationships with vendors.   But, VRM, in my opinion, would not be the only core driver for change.  I still think compliance, combined with customer experience, is going to be the market driver.  

Personal data does not need to be destroyed if access to it only needs to be revoked, i.e. with UMA.  I wrote a piece on this in 2011 for Identity Trust discussing how data protection industry is destroying privacy and undermining national security (not only the individual).     The long and short version being, volunteered personal information is much more valuable to organisations.  Personal control over my data  is the best method of transferring data internationally with compliance and high levels of customer experience. 

- Mark 

On 6 Oct 2015, at 14:53, James Hazard <james.g.hazard@gmail.com> wrote:

Do you mean that consent of the person permits transfer of data, but consent is necessarily revocable and data must be destroyed?


On Oct 6, 2015 3:40 PM, "Neiditz, Jon" <JNeiditz@kilpatricktownsend.com> wrote:
Why?

The Advocate General's opinion and the Court's decision both turn on the inability of Safe Harbor to prevent surveillance.  NO permitted basis for data transfer prevents surveillance, not Model Clauses, not Binding Corporate Rules (BCRs).  Logically, if probably not in immediate corporate and EU national practice, the only bulletproof basis for data transfer to the US is now the ever-so-revocable CONSENT, which presumes no fictitious protection from surveillance.

See also:  https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/good-morning-safe-harbor-dead-what-does-mean-now-later-jon-neiditz?trk=prof-post

Your thoughts?

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