https://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/uma/UMA+legal+subgroup+note... 2019-09-24 Attending: Eve, Cigdem, Domenico, Nancy, Tim, Vlad, Sal At the DS-RRA wrangling layer where UMA doesn't have any artifacts, there will typically be a lot of identity and access management taking place. What technical artifacts can we expect to be used there? Typically many proprietary ones, but also potentially some standardized ones, such as federation standards like SAML and OIDC, maybe provisioning standards like SCIM, maybe auditing-friendly standards like consent receipts, etc. We have already mentioned consent receipts in our "devices and artifacts" capture. The topic discussed last time was: Could/How could UMA be used to achieve user control of the initial user relationship with a service provider? The answer in today's world is that UMA was designed with today's imperfect situation in mind, which presumes opt-in cookie consent, opt-in terms and conditions, opt-in OAuth app connections, and opt-in AS-RS connections for UMA, which are all sub-optimal. However, the Lisa/Eve paper proposes an architectural way forward for fixing these broken patterns, which is to use the "Open Banking trick" for intent registration. The trick uses the nexus of the Open Banking APIs and OIDC request objects to allow transaction authorization of payment of a specific amount of money for a single payment, vs. authorization of an OAuth scope for an indefinite period. Theoretically, this "intent registration" ahead of time by a user at a client app (TPP) could be used to allow transactional (one-time) "intent registration" of user-centric terms and conditions, not just payment of money. Flows still to be worked out for each use case of user/service interaction, of course! Cigdem had commented about moving up the Legal Parties discussion in the document and we agree. She will do some "invasive" editing of the doc. Eve can't make Oct 8th or Oct 15th. It sounds like we have critical mass of people to join on the 15th so Eve will ensure someone can open the bridge on that day. In the meantime Cigdem will edit the doc. We haven't discussed Nancy's latest submitted set of use cases, including healthcare and banking. One of Eve's goals is to include as many submitted real-life use cases as possible. We've already got quite a few. She's started a couple of templates for some more in the "mapping" slide deck. *Eve Maler*Cell or Signal +1 425.345.6756 | Skype: xmlgrrl | Twitter: @xmlgrrl