(oops — am resending Positive Privacy suggestion due to mixing up paragraph order)

I really like Ken’s Privacy as a State point and agree with John in terms of the sinkhole description of the legacy privacy terminology and definitions.  

Its also abundantly clear that what we understood as privacy in the past no longer reflects modern privacy in a lot of ways. For example there is a clear difference between Data Protection privacy and data control based privacy, where the individual control’s their own privacy. 

I have presented on this topic a couple of different presentations in the last few years teasing these issues out because they are very difficult to describe with legacy privacy discourse.  The last iteration was called Positive Privacy, to  explain consent based systems that provide personal data control. (or more modern privacy).

This can be useful to describe what is very difficult to describe with legacy privacy discourse.  It differentiates between data control and data protection, as well as provides a framework for privacy in discussing user consent through managed access and control frameworks. 

Do you think Positive Privacy resonates in the context of UMA? 

Mark 

On 4 Feb 2016, at 02:47, John Wunderlich <john@wunderlich.ca> wrote:

Hi;

The whole “Definition of Privacy” thing is a sinkhole of definitions, frameworks and ontologies. For example, Solove’s “Taxonomy of Privacy” identifies 16 different activities that could qualify. Privacy is individually perceived, socially constructed and varies contextually along a number of axes. In summary privacy is protean. It’s also quite uniquely an English word. This is why the Europeans refer to data protection rather than privacy. There is no word for privacy outside of English. It seems to me that it might be better to say that UMA is a tool that can, when deployed properly (for example, applying Privacy by Design as shown in Eve’s post earlier in this thread), protect personal data and let users assert some element of control over their personal information, but it is not sufficient by itself to guarantee privacy protections.

Sincerely,
John Wunderlich
(@PrivacyCDN)

On Feb 2, 2016, at 12:07, arr@worldknowledgebank.com wrote:

Is there an uma definition of privacy?
 
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