https://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/uma/UMA+legal+subgroup+note... 2020-01-21 Attending; Eve, And, Domenico, Lisa, Nancy, Tim, Colin Through her colleagues, Eve recently came upon the work of the Sovrin Guardianship group https://sovrin.org/guardianship/ (which overlaps in some respects with our biz-legal work) and the DIDauthz work https://github.com/hyperledger/aries-rfcs/tree/master/features/0309-didauthz (which references OAuth and UMA). Nancy brings up the FAST work in healthcare, which is trying to accelerate solutions to common challenges. What is the best way for us to accelerate our own work and goals, and how we can center on the end-user perspective (the "User" in UMA)? Lisa notes the DIDUX working group, given this desired perspective. Tim notes the rationale stated in the paper on p. 9 for the guardianship work: "In short, carefully constructed guardianship is essential to SSI. Without it, SSI solutions will either tend towards centralisation or exclude billions of people." This is somewhat a weird way to think, in Eve's opinion, because it's constructed around the goal of digital identity (an "input metric") as opposed to what people actually want out of digital services (an "output metric"). If we don't get out of this mindset, we may not get to the point of being creative enough to solve the next generation of problems. Tim notes that the UN and the World Bank are saying that legal identity is a human right. (Though "legal identity" is not the same thing as "(a) digital identity".) She takes the sentiment of wanting to solve the thorny problem of "offline and online" mixes of people, though. Lisa suggests that we pull Adrian into an analysis. Eve thinks Justin could shed light too. Eve is going to pare down our meetings so that we only meet on Tuesdays. She'll send a note to the list just to be sure this doesn't cause any heartburn for our voting participants. Homework for next time: Everyone please study the paper and the use cases, paying particular attention to the terminology and concepts, and seeing if we have comments or could use some of them. Eve will look into her team's ability to develop demos of the use cases in the paper (or equivalent), on an UMA/OAuth basis and potentially SSI. Others are welcome to do that too. We are meeting next Tuesday. No meeting on Feb 4 as Eve is traveling. *Eve Maler*Cell or Signal +1 425.345.6756 | Skype: xmlgrrl | Twitter: @xmlgrrl