Quorum was not reached (not that it is generally expected in this specially scheduled call).
Deferred.
It was noted that join.me has grown in functionality since we started using Thomas's paid account, and there is now a dial-in number displayed that we are not using; instead we use Kantara's "line C", which comes with a Skype option. Should we continue splitting up the screenshare and the dial-in (and warn people to try and avoid confusion), which has the advantage of offering the Skype option, or align the two so as to fully avoid any confusion? Eve will ask on the list and we will decide by next time.
Kuppinger Cole conference in Singapore in November: Gil proposes a panel that freshens up the discussion about XACML. E.g., how does XACML plug into UMA? Could it be part of the panel, or maybe be a separate session? And relatedly, might there be interest in developing a profile of XACML for UMA, a profile of UMA for XACML, or both? Eve had written some thoughts following on to Hal Lockhart’s white paper on an XACML profile for OAuth policies, which could provide some food for thought.
Eve will ping her colleague Allan Foster, who is Singapore-based, for interest in co-presenting. Colin is interested in the topic; he probably can’t attend if not speaking. Justin would be interested to attend the conference if someone is willing to send him!
Gil’s conclusion with his colleague was that XACML policy, or even portions of it, in combination with UMA is a good idea.
How would an OASIS/Kantara split of activity work? An active liaison would probably be a good idea. As long as text isn’t quoted, and “incorporating by reference” is okay, then a profile on either end is probably acceptable.
The REST profile for XACML was published about six months ago. The UMA FAQ mentions it.
Justin’s demo at the HIMSS conference protected XACML policy as an UMA resource! That’s a nice new one.
Justin has been implementing UMA against an existing OAuth and OpenID Connect server and has been collecting ideas for things that could be optimized or fixed or cleaned up. He’s been sitting on them so far, partly to be sure he understands them fully, and partly not to upset the V1.0 apple cart.
His items/ideas include, for example (he has 16):
Eve has been thinking about one, which is:
Sociotechnical Systems conversation, commitments, and obligations: Eve, Tim, and others are meeting with Professor Munindar Singh and his colleagues on July 10 at 9am PT. If anyone is interested to join the call, drop Eve a line.
Eve will send a link to Prof. Singh’s extended abstract and other papers to the list.
Colin describes the ongoing NZ government POC. The first sprint is to stand up an UMA out-of-the-box scenario. Governments, like any large enterprise, have issues with delegations: a user wants to delegate access to others out of their account, and there are also “headless” use cases where the user is not present. Colin is not directly involved, but is observing from the side. He’ll give updates as he can.
As of 1 Jul 2015 (pre-meeting), quorum is 7 of 13. (François, Domenico, Sal, Mark, Thomas, Andi, Ishan, Robert, Maciej, Eve, Arlene, Mike, Jin)
Non-voting participants: