Re: [WG-UMA] Human Agency has a Standard

17 Jun 2019

      (I see the big business issues as encompassed by all the use cases we've
been collecting. And I've got more. :-) The "legal" work encompasses the
devices -- literally the legal devices -- by which these business use cases
can be transacted in a fair and orderly fashion.)

That aside, I for one am okay with the approach in this writeup. Everyone
has a different lens on their UMA interest. It's not wrong to highlight the
role of the AS (ASO?) as the key innovation, and it has several facets...

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On Sun, Jun 16, 2019 at 8:14 PM Adrian Gropper 
wrote:
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It's about the messaging. I fear we're straying too far into legal. Our
messaging seems disconnected from the big business issues. Here's what I
would call big business issues:
https://www.mckinsey.com/business-functions/digital-mckinsey/our-insights/th...
Adrian
On Sun, Jun 16, 2019 at 8:36 PM Tim Reiniger  wrote:
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If I may offer an initial thought on messaging. The title is great (with
reference to “human”) but the text focuses on machines. I would suggest
that descriptions of UMA emphasize that it represents a way to keep the
human person in the center of controlling personal data exchange (while of
course leveraging software tools). And all of the UMA agents (what tech
folks call ‘delegations’) have either a natural or legal person in the mix
who will bear full legal responsibility. Machines, systems,
software-controls without responsible persons are authoritarian. Instead,
from a legal perspective, UMA enables the authoritative. So, authoritative
v. authoritarian. If UMA b
Tim
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On Jun 11, 2019, at 6:23 AM, Adrian Gropper 
wrote:
of course...
On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 3:29 AM Eve Maler  wrote:
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Hi Adrian — I’ve left just Justin on here for the moment (since he’s on
the UMA WG), and added Tim (as our Legal Editor). Your writeup is
interesting. Would you be willing to send it to the UMA WG for comment
before final publication?
My only comment for now is that I’m unclear on the first delegation and
which spec/relationship it refers to. It would be great to be able to point
to the specific one(s) we mean in our spaghetti diagram.
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On Jun 10, 2019, at 9:13 PM, Adrian Gropper  wrote:
I've been asked to explain, in non-technical language, what the UMA
standard is and why it's essential to many of the the conversations related
to privacy that I'm involved in.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/112GrR_i7HgstckRSiamlpu6scLV4dqroImFAjwDm...
tries to do that. I am cross-posting in the hope that comments either on
the doc or on the specific discussion lists will improve this doc prior to
public posting.
TIA,
Adrian
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