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Eve Maler

9 Apr 2018 9 Apr '18

3:05 a.m.

Hi WGs-- This past week at IIW a session was held (I wasn't able to attend the session itself) about an IEEE project to develop "machine readable personal privacy terms": https://standards.ieee.org/develop/project/7012.html "The purpose of the standard is to provide individuals with means to proffer their own terms respecting personal privacy, in ways that can be read, acknowledged and agreed to by machines operated by others in the networked world. In a more formal sense, the purpose of the standard is to enable individuals to operate as first parties in agreements with others--mostly companies--operating as second parties. Note that the purpose of this standard is not to address privacy policies, since these are one-sided and need no agreement. (Terms require agreement; privacy policies do not.)" This seems to have potential relevance for Consent Receipts, User Submitted Terms, UMA, and UMA Legal. Joyce Searls was the one announcing the session during agenda creation, so I managed to speak with her prior to the scheduled session, and she shared this link with me afterwards. She also said "Take a look at the write up and click through to register interest. We will be having our first formal meeting within a month or so." *Eve Maler*Cell +1 425.345.6756 | Skype: xmlgrrl | Twitter: @xmlgrrl

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Colin Wallis

9 Apr 9 Apr

7:59 a.m.

New subject: [WG-InfoSharing] FYI, IEEE SA 7012 - Standard for Machine Readable Personal Privacy Terms

Thanks for this Eve Of course IEEE-SA was on Kantara's Board until mid 2016 until I believe it was put under pressure from its twin organization IEEE-ISTO, following Kantara's transitioning to another service management company. Until that time, we had a positive and active relationship IIRC. Perhaps this is an opportunity to rekindle that, tho' I'm still trying to work out Customer Commons' position in this, since it leads the UST project in Kantara. Interesting times indeed!.. In any event I have completed the contact form and await to see if anything comes of it, and I would encourage individuals, and corporate members of IEEE-SA to do likewise. Thanks again Eve Kind regards Colin Executive Director Cell: +44 (0)7490 266 778 @KantaraColin Kantara's London Summit May 22nd - Marketing, Media & Privacy https://mmap2018.kantarainitiative.org/ Kantara Consent Receipt and UMA are 2 of the top 5 https://identiverse.com/2017/12/18/five-identity-trends-watch-2018/ Kantara Initiative Inc https://kantarainitiative.org/ & Kantara Initiative, Europe On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 4:05 AM, Eve Maler wrote:

...

Hi WGs-- This past week at IIW a session was held (I wasn't able to attend the session itself) about an IEEE project to develop "machine readable personal privacy terms":

https://standards.ieee.org/develop/project/7012.html

"The purpose of the standard is to provide individuals with means to proffer their own terms respecting personal privacy, in ways that can be read, acknowledged and agreed to by machines operated by others in the networked world. In a more formal sense, the purpose of the standard is to enable individuals to operate as first parties in agreements with others--mostly companies--operating as second parties. Note that the purpose of this standard is not to address privacy policies, since these are one-sided and need no agreement. (Terms require agreement; privacy policies do not.)"

This seems to have potential relevance for Consent Receipts, User Submitted Terms, UMA, and UMA Legal.

Joyce Searls was the one announcing the session during agenda creation, so I managed to speak with her prior to the scheduled session, and she shared this link with me afterwards. She also said "Take a look at the write up and click through to register interest. We will be having our first formal meeting within a month or so."

*Eve Maler*Cell +1 425.345.6756 | Skype: xmlgrrl | Twitter: @xmlgrrl

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Iain Henderson

10 Apr 10 Apr

7:11 a.m.

New subject: [WG-InfoSharing] FYI, IEEE SA 7012 - Standard for Machine Readable Personal Privacy Terms

Hi Colin, my understanding is that the IEEE made a proactive request to Customer Commons to take the lead on this work. There does seem to be a degree of overlap with User Submitted Terms, but that has not made a lot of progress of late. My take on that is that the UST work is now better thought of as Information Sharing Agreements rather than specific terms; in many ways they amount to the same thing, with the latter now being the more common term of art. That in itself is interesting in that Information Sharing Agreements was actually the first work product in what was them ISWG; we pushed on that door for 3 years or so but ran out of steam as the tech did not exist at the time. One suggestion, discussed by John W, Andrew and I at IIW was to re-badge the User Submitted Terms strand as Information Sharing Agreements. John and I are both happy to lead on that work as it is most relevant to JLINC. One for discussion. Cheers Iain

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On 9 Apr 2018, at 08:59, Colin Wallis wrote:

Thanks for this Eve

Of course IEEE-SA was on Kantara's Board until mid 2016 until I believe it was put under pressure from its twin organization IEEE-ISTO, following Kantara's transitioning to another service management company. Until that time, we had a positive and active relationship IIRC.

Perhaps this is an opportunity to rekindle that, tho' I'm still trying to work out Customer Commons' position in this, since it leads the UST project in Kantara. Interesting times indeed!..

In any event I have completed the contact form and await to see if anything comes of it, and I would encourage individuals, and corporate members of IEEE-SA to do likewise.

Thanks again Eve

Kind regards

Colin

Executive Director Cell: +44 (0)7490 266 778 @KantaraColin Kantara's London Summit May 22nd - Marketing, Media & Privacy Kantara Consent Receipt and UMA are 2 of the top 5 Kantara Initiative Inc & Kantara Initiative, Europe

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On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 4:05 AM, Eve Maler wrote: Hi WGs-- This past week at IIW a session was held (I wasn't able to attend the session itself) about an IEEE project to develop "machine readable personal privacy terms":

https://standards.ieee.org/develop/project/7012.html

"The purpose of the standard is to provide individuals with means to proffer their own terms respecting personal privacy, in ways that can be read, acknowledged and agreed to by machines operated by others in the networked world. In a more formal sense, the purpose of the standard is to enable individuals to operate as first parties in agreements with others--mostly companies--operating as second parties. Note that the purpose of this standard is not to address privacy policies, since these are one-sided and need no agreement. (Terms require agreement; privacy policies do not.)"

This seems to have potential relevance for Consent Receipts, User Submitted Terms, UMA, and UMA Legal.

Joyce Searls was the one announcing the session during agenda creation, so I managed to speak with her prior to the scheduled session, and she shared this link with me afterwards. She also said "Take a look at the write up and click through to register interest. We will be having our first formal meeting within a month or so."

Eve Maler Cell +1 425.345.6756 | Skype: xmlgrrl | Twitter: @xmlgrrl

_______________________________________________ WG-InfoSharing mailing list WG-InfoSharing@kantarainitiative.org https://kantarainitiative.org/mailman/listinfo/wg-infosharing

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Eve Maler

21 Aug 21 Aug

4:18 a.m.

New subject: [WG-InfoSharing] FYI, IEEE SA 7012 - Standard for Machine Readable Personal Privacy Terms

FYI, the IEEE P7012 Working Group is holding its first meeting tomorrow. A number of familiar faces are presenting. (I'm one of them.) http://sites.ieee.org/sagroups-7012/21-august-2018-meeting-agenda-preliminar... *Eve Maler*Cell +1 425.345.6756 | Skype: xmlgrrl | Twitter: @xmlgrrl On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 12:11 AM, Iain Henderson wrote:

...

Hi Colin, my understanding is that the IEEE made a proactive request to Customer Commons to take the lead on this work.

There does seem to be a degree of overlap with User Submitted Terms, but that has not made a lot of progress of late. My take on that is that the UST work is now better thought of as Information Sharing Agreements rather than specific terms; in many ways they amount to the same thing, with the latter now being the more common term of art. That in itself is interesting in that Information Sharing Agreements was actually the first work product in what was them ISWG; we pushed on that door for 3 years or so but ran out of steam as the tech did not exist at the time.

One suggestion, discussed by John W, Andrew and I at IIW was to re-badge the User Submitted Terms strand as Information Sharing Agreements. John and I are both happy to lead on that work as it is most relevant to JLINC.

One for discussion.

Cheers

Iain

On 9 Apr 2018, at 08:59, Colin Wallis wrote:

Thanks for this Eve

Of course IEEE-SA was on Kantara's Board until mid 2016 until I believe it was put under pressure from its twin organization IEEE-ISTO, following Kantara's transitioning to another service management company. Until that time, we had a positive and active relationship IIRC.

Perhaps this is an opportunity to rekindle that, tho' I'm still trying to work out Customer Commons' position in this, since it leads the UST project in Kantara. Interesting times indeed!..

In any event I have completed the contact form and await to see if anything comes of it, and I would encourage individuals, and corporate members of IEEE-SA to do likewise.

Thanks again Eve

Kind regards

Colin

Executive Director Cell: +44 (0)7490 266 778 @KantaraColin Kantara's London Summit May 22nd - Marketing, Media & Privacy https://mmap2018.kantarainitiative.org/ Kantara Consent Receipt and UMA are 2 of the top 5 https://identiverse.com/2017/12/18/five-identity-trends-watch-2018/ Kantara Initiative Inc https://kantarainitiative.org/ & Kantara Initiative, Europe

On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 4:05 AM, Eve Maler wrote:

...
Hi WGs-- This past week at IIW a session was held (I wasn't able to attend the session itself) about an IEEE project to develop "machine readable personal privacy terms":

https://standards.ieee.org/develop/project/7012.html

"The purpose of the standard is to provide individuals with means to proffer their own terms respecting personal privacy, in ways that can be read, acknowledged and agreed to by machines operated by others in the networked world. In a more formal sense, the purpose of the standard is to enable individuals to operate as first parties in agreements with others--mostly companies--operating as second parties. Note that the purpose of this standard is not to address privacy policies, since these are one-sided and need no agreement. (Terms require agreement; privacy policies do not.)"

This seems to have potential relevance for Consent Receipts, User Submitted Terms, UMA, and UMA Legal.

Joyce Searls was the one announcing the session during agenda creation, so I managed to speak with her prior to the scheduled session, and she shared this link with me afterwards. She also said "Take a look at the write up and click through to register interest. We will be having our first formal meeting within a month or so."

*Eve Maler*Cell +1 425.345.6756 | Skype: xmlgrrl | Twitter: @xmlgrrl

_______________________________________________ WG-InfoSharing mailing list WG-InfoSharing@kantarainitiative.org https://kantarainitiative.org/mailman/listinfo/wg-infosharing

_______________________________________________ WG-InfoSharing mailing list WG-InfoSharing@kantarainitiative.org https://kantarainitiative.org/mailman/listinfo/wg-infosharing

Eve Maler

22 Aug 22 Aug

4:13 a.m.

New subject: [WG-InfoSharing] FYI, IEEE SA 7012 - Standard for Machine Readable Personal Privacy Terms

Here is the deck we presented: https://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/download/attachments/17760302/IEEE%... We have a telecon this week (for which I’ll send an agenda before Wednesday is out). I’m thinking we can discuss a) authorization at the RS and what to do, or not do, about that and b) concrete next steps on the business model, with potentially a new use case brought by David T. Eve (sent from my iPhone, possibly with Siri's "help": +1-425-345-6756)

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On Aug 20, 2018, at 9:18 PM, Eve Maler wrote:

FYI, the IEEE P7012 Working Group is holding its first meeting tomorrow. A number of familiar faces are presenting. (I'm one of them.)

http://sites.ieee.org/sagroups-7012/21-august-2018-meeting-agenda-preliminar...

Eve Maler Cell +1 425.345.6756 | Skype: xmlgrrl | Twitter: @xmlgrrl

...
On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 12:11 AM, Iain Henderson wrote: Hi Colin, my understanding is that the IEEE made a proactive request to Customer Commons to take the lead on this work.

There does seem to be a degree of overlap with User Submitted Terms, but that has not made a lot of progress of late. My take on that is that the UST work is now better thought of as Information Sharing Agreements rather than specific terms; in many ways they amount to the same thing, with the latter now being the more common term of art. That in itself is interesting in that Information Sharing Agreements was actually the first work product in what was them ISWG; we pushed on that door for 3 years or so but ran out of steam as the tech did not exist at the time.

One suggestion, discussed by John W, Andrew and I at IIW was to re-badge the User Submitted Terms strand as Information Sharing Agreements. John and I are both happy to lead on that work as it is most relevant to JLINC.

One for discussion.

Cheers

Iain

...
On 9 Apr 2018, at 08:59, Colin Wallis wrote:

Thanks for this Eve

Of course IEEE-SA was on Kantara's Board until mid 2016 until I believe it was put under pressure from its twin organization IEEE-ISTO, following Kantara's transitioning to another service management company. Until that time, we had a positive and active relationship IIRC.

Perhaps this is an opportunity to rekindle that, tho' I'm still trying to work out Customer Commons' position in this, since it leads the UST project in Kantara. Interesting times indeed!..

In any event I have completed the contact form and await to see if anything comes of it, and I would encourage individuals, and corporate members of IEEE-SA to do likewise.

Thanks again Eve

Kind regards

Colin

Executive Director Cell: +44 (0)7490 266 778 @KantaraColin Kantara's London Summit May 22nd - Marketing, Media & Privacy Kantara Consent Receipt and UMA are 2 of the top 5 Kantara Initiative Inc & Kantara Initiative, Europe

...
On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 4:05 AM, Eve Maler wrote: Hi WGs-- This past week at IIW a session was held (I wasn't able to attend the session itself) about an IEEE project to develop "machine readable personal privacy terms":

https://standards.ieee.org/develop/project/7012.html

"The purpose of the standard is to provide individuals with means to proffer their own terms respecting personal privacy, in ways that can be read, acknowledged and agreed to by machines operated by others in the networked world. In a more formal sense, the purpose of the standard is to enable individuals to operate as first parties in agreements with others--mostly companies--operating as second parties. Note that the purpose of this standard is not to address privacy policies, since these are one-sided and need no agreement. (Terms require agreement; privacy policies do not.)"

This seems to have potential relevance for Consent Receipts, User Submitted Terms, UMA, and UMA Legal.

Joyce Searls was the one announcing the session during agenda creation, so I managed to speak with her prior to the scheduled session, and she shared this link with me afterwards. She also said "Take a look at the write up and click through to register interest. We will be having our first formal meeting within a month or so."

Eve Maler Cell +1 425.345.6756 | Skype: xmlgrrl | Twitter: @xmlgrrl

_______________________________________________ WG-InfoSharing mailing list WG-InfoSharing@kantarainitiative.org https://kantarainitiative.org/mailman/listinfo/wg-infosharing

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David J. Thelander

23 Aug 23 Aug

7:46 p.m.

New subject: [WG-InfoSharing] FYI, IEEE SA 7012 - Standard for Machine Readable Personal Privacy Terms

Dear Eve and All, Good call today. I am following up to ask who of you on the call would like to join a “Vermont potential UMA use case and PIPC” call - please let me know (I don’t think I have everyone’s emails) and I will set it up. Thanks much. Also, below I also include our firm’s announcement that Oliver Goodenough has joined our firm. Tim, you obviously know Oliver and I thought I would include him in this effort moving forward if that makes sense to you folks. Oliver is connected with the IEEE folks, for example. Cheers, D. [http://files.constantcontact.com/18d97434501/354ea650-383b-4d01-9c42-6216b9f...] Legal Innovation Expert Oliver Goodenough Joins Gravel & Shea [http://files.constantcontact.com/18d97434501/75f9ef5f-1748-4faf-a9ea-04721bc...] Burlington, Vermont (August 20, 2018): Oliver Goodenough joins Gravel & Shea as Special Counsel, bringing with him decades of experience researching, writing and teaching at the intersection of law, economics, finance, and technology. He specializes in corporate and financial matters, with a particular emphasis on the law of technological applications such as blockchain, FinTech, RegTech, and artificial intelligence. He also advises on early stage business, entertainment law, intellectual property, nonprofits and social enterprise. Goodenough is co-founder of Skopos Labs, Inc., which applies advanced AI to questions of law and policy, and a Professor of Law at Vermont Law School. He is also affiliated faculty at Stanford’s CodeX Center, a Research Fellow of the Gruter Institute for Law and Behavioral Research, and an Adjunct Professor at Dartmouth’s Thayer School of Engineering. He recently stepped down as co-Director of the VLS Center for Legal Innovation and as a visiting IPA Researcher at the Office of Financial Research. “I am excited to join Gravel & Shea,” said Goodenough. “The firm has excellent lawyers and a distinguished history — as well as a practice at the cutting edge of financial and legal technology, representing clients in blockchain and related fields. I will bring my academic and practice skills in these areas to help grow the field in Vermont and around the world.” Goodenough’s work in emerging areas of law — particularly in the field of contracts and business organizations — has impacted policy at both the state and national levels. He is a co-author of Vermont’s recent blockchain legislation and a participant in the state’s blockchain study committee. At the national level, he has collaborated with the Office of Financial Research at the Department of the Treasury on the possibility of automating financial instruments. “I have known and worked with Oliver for many years on initiatives to improve and innovate business legislation here in Vermont,” said Gravel & Shea Shareholder Peter Erly. “A number of these projects involved first-in-the-nation legislative initiatives, including recent blockchain legislation, for which Oliver was responsible. Oliver provides a unique ability to identify legal issues affecting new developments in technology while also offering a deep background in a wide array of legal disciplines pertinent to businesses inside and outside of Vermont. We are extremely fortunate to have him join Gravel & Shea.” Goodenough is a graduate of Harvard University and the University of Pennsylvania Law School. He was formerly an IPA Researcher and Visiting Fellow at the Office of Financial Research of the Department of the Treasury, a partner and of counsel at the New York City law firm of Kay Collyer & Boose, and a Faculty Fellow and co-Director of the Law Lab project at Harvard University’s Berkman Center for Internet & Society. Gravel & Shea is a full-service law firm in Burlington, Vermont, providing its clients legal services in a wide variety of disciplines, including commercial transactions, civil litigation, real estate, intellectual property, energy, land use and environmental regulation, estate planning, mergers and acquisitions, personal injury litigation, employment law, and family law. David J. Thelander | Special Counsel Gravel & Shea PC 76 St. Paul Street, 7th Floor | P. O. Box 369 | Burlington, VT 05402-0369 802-658-0220 (phone) | 415-608-7418 (mobile) dthelander@gravelshea.commailto:dthelander@gravelshea.com | www.gravelshea.comhttp://www.gravelshea.com Biography | Download vCard The information contained in this transmission may contain privileged and confidential information. It is intended only for the use of the person(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or duplication of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. On Aug 21, 2018, at 9:13 PM, Eve Maler mailto:eve@xmlgrrl.com> wrote: Here is the deck we presented: https://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/download/attachments/17760302/IEEE%...https://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/download/attachments/17760302/IEEE%... We have a telecon this week (for which I’ll send an agenda before Wednesday is out). I’m thinking we can discuss a) authorization at the RS and what to do, or not do, about that and b) concrete next steps on the business model, with potentially a new use case brought by David T. Eve (sent from my iPhone, possibly with Siri's "help": +1-425-345-6756) On Aug 20, 2018, at 9:18 PM, Eve Maler mailto:eve@xmlgrrl.com> wrote: FYI, the IEEE P7012 Working Group is holding its first meeting tomorrow. A number of familiar faces are presenting. (I'm one of them.) http://sites.ieee.org/sagroups-7012/21-august-2018-meeting-agenda-preliminar...http://sites.ieee.org/sagroups-7012/21-august-2018-meeting-agenda-preliminar... Eve Maler Cell +1 425.345.6756 | Skype: xmlgrrl | Twitter: @xmlgrrl On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 12:11 AM, Iain Henderson mailto:iainhenderson@mac.com> wrote: Hi Colin, my understanding is that the IEEE made a proactive request to Customer Commons to take the lead on this work. There does seem to be a degree of overlap with User Submitted Terms, but that has not made a lot of progress of late. My take on that is that the UST work is now better thought of as Information Sharing Agreements rather than specific terms; in many ways they amount to the same thing, with the latter now being the more common term of art. That in itself is interesting in that Information Sharing Agreements was actually the first work product in what was them ISWG; we pushed on that door for 3 years or so but ran out of steam as the tech did not exist at the time. One suggestion, discussed by John W, Andrew and I at IIW was to re-badge the User Submitted Terms strand as Information Sharing Agreements. John and I are both happy to lead on that work as it is most relevant to JLINC. One for discussion. Cheers Iain On 9 Apr 2018, at 08:59, Colin Wallis mailto:colin@kantarainitiative.org> wrote: Thanks for this Eve Of course IEEE-SA was on Kantara's Board until mid 2016 until I believe it was put under pressure from its twin organization IEEE-ISTO, following Kantara's transitioning to another service management company. Until that time, we had a positive and active relationship IIRC. Perhaps this is an opportunity to rekindle that, tho' I'm still trying to work out Customer Commons' position in this, since it leads the UST project in Kantara. Interesting times indeed!.. In any event I have completed the contact form and await to see if anything comes of it, and I would encourage individuals, and corporate members of IEEE-SA to do likewise. Thanks again Eve Kind regards Colin Executive Director Cell: +44 (0)7490 266 778 @KantaraColin Kantara's London Summit May 22nd - Marketing, Media & Privacyhttps://mmap2018.kantarainitiative.org/ Kantara Consent Receipt and UMA are 2 of the top 5https://identiverse.com/2017/12/18/five-identity-trends-watch-2018/ Kantara Initiative Inchttps://kantarainitiative.org/ & Kantara Initiative, Europe [https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0B7y8c3lrgRtUUjRFMHFMQm1BR3M&export=download] On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 4:05 AM, Eve Maler mailto:eve@xmlgrrl.com> wrote: Hi WGs-- This past week at IIW a session was held (I wasn't able to attend the session itself) about an IEEE project to develop "machine readable personal privacy terms": https://standards.ieee.org/develop/project/7012.html https://standards.ieee.org/develop/project/7012.html "The purpose of the standard is to provide individuals with means to proffer their own terms respecting personal privacy, in ways that can be read, acknowledged and agreed to by machines operated by others in the networked world. In a more formal sense, the purpose of the standard is to enable individuals to operate as first parties in agreements with others--mostly companies--operating as second parties. Note that the purpose of this standard is not to address privacy policies, since these are one-sided and need no agreement. (Terms require agreement; privacy policies do not.)" This seems to have potential relevance for Consent Receipts, User Submitted Terms, UMA, and UMA Legal. Joyce Searls was the one announcing the session during agenda creation, so I managed to speak with her prior to the scheduled session, and she shared this link with me afterwards. She also said "Take a look at the write up and click through to register interest. We will be having our first formal meeting within a month or so." Eve Maler Cell +1 425.345.6756 | Skype: xmlgrrl | Twitter: @xmlgrrl _______________________________________________ WG-InfoSharing mailing list WG-InfoSharing@kantarainitiative.orgmailto:WG-InfoSharing@kantarainitiative.org https://kantarainitiative.org/mailman/listinfo/wg-infosharing https://kantarainitiative.org/mailman/listinfo/wg-infosharing _______________________________________________ WG-InfoSharing mailing list WG-InfoSharing@kantarainitiative.orgmailto:WG-InfoSharing@kantarainitiative.org https://kantarainitiative.org/mailman/listinfo/wg-infosharing https://kantarainitiative.org/mailman/listinfo/wg-infosharing _______________________________________________ WG-UMA mailing list WG-UMA@kantarainitiative.orgmailto:WG-UMA@kantarainitiative.org https://kantarainitiative.org/mailman/listinfo/wg-uma

Eve Maler

8:16 p.m.

New subject: [WG-InfoSharing] FYI, IEEE SA 7012 - Standard for Machine Readable Personal Privacy Terms

David, thanks for this additional context and the call for next steps! Does it make sense to keep our reps for this initial meeting focused to WG/Kantara leadership and those who have contributed to development of the business model? I don't want to be in danger of overwhelming, and often there's some education to do. But if you feel it could be broader, say the word. *Eve Maler*Cell +1 425.345.6756 | Skype: xmlgrrl | Twitter: @xmlgrrl On Thu, Aug 23, 2018 at 12:46 PM, David J. Thelander < dthelander@gravelshea.com> wrote:

...

Dear Eve and All,

Good call today. I am following up to ask who of you on the call would like to join a “Vermont potential UMA use case and PIPC” call - please let me know (I don’t think I have everyone’s emails) and I will set it up.

Thanks much. Also, below I also include our firm’s announcement that Oliver Goodenough has joined our firm. Tim, you obviously know Oliver and I thought I would include him in this effort moving forward if that makes sense to you folks. Oliver is connected with the IEEE folks, for example.

Cheers, D. Legal Innovation Expert Oliver Goodenough Joins Gravel & Shea Burlington, Vermont (August 20, 2018): Oliver Goodenough joins Gravel & Shea as Special Counsel, bringing with him decades of experience researching, writing and teaching at the intersection of law, economics, finance, and technology. He specializes in corporate and financial matters, with a particular emphasis on the law of technological applications such as blockchain, FinTech, RegTech, and artificial intelligence. He also advises on early stage business, entertainment law, intellectual property, nonprofits and social enterprise.

Goodenough is co-founder of Skopos Labs, Inc., which applies advanced AI to questions of law and policy, and a Professor of Law at Vermont Law School. He is also affiliated faculty at Stanford’s CodeX Center, a Research Fellow of the Gruter Institute for Law and Behavioral Research, and an Adjunct Professor at Dartmouth’s Thayer School of Engineering. He recently stepped down as co-Director of the VLS Center for Legal Innovation and as a visiting IPA Researcher at the Office of Financial Research.

“I am excited to join Gravel & Shea,” said Goodenough. “The firm has excellent lawyers and a distinguished history — as well as a practice at the cutting edge of financial and legal technology, representing clients in blockchain and related fields. I will bring my academic and practice skills in these areas to help grow the field in Vermont and around the world.”

Goodenough’s work in emerging areas of law — particularly in the field of contracts and business organizations — has impacted policy at both the state and national levels. He is a co-author of Vermont’s recent blockchain legislation and a participant in the state’s blockchain study committee. At the national level, he has collaborated with the Office of Financial Research at the Department of the Treasury on the possibility of automating financial instruments.

“I have known and worked with Oliver for many years on initiatives to improve and innovate business legislation here in Vermont,” said Gravel & Shea Shareholder Peter Erly. “A number of these projects involved first-in-the-nation legislative initiatives, including recent blockchain legislation, for which Oliver was responsible. Oliver provides a unique ability to identify legal issues affecting new developments in technology while also offering a deep background in a wide array of legal disciplines pertinent to businesses inside and outside of Vermont. We are extremely fortunate to have him join Gravel & Shea.”

Goodenough is a graduate of Harvard University and the University of Pennsylvania Law School. He was formerly an IPA Researcher and Visiting Fellow at the Office of Financial Research of the Department of the Treasury, a partner and of counsel at the New York City law firm of Kay Collyer & Boose, and a Faculty Fellow and co-Director of the Law Lab project at Harvard University’s Berkman Center for Internet & Society.

Gravel & Shea is a full-service law firm in Burlington, Vermont, providing its clients legal services in a wide variety of disciplines, including commercial transactions, civil litigation, real estate, intellectual property, energy, land use and environmental regulation, estate planning, mergers and acquisitions, personal injury litigation, employment law, and family law.

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On Aug 21, 2018, at 9:13 PM, Eve Maler wrote:

Here is the deck we presented:

https://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/download/ attachments/17760302/IEEE%20P7012%20UMA%20preso%202018-08-20.pdf?api=v2

We have a telecon this week (for which I’ll send an agenda before Wednesday is out). I’m thinking we can discuss a) authorization at the RS and what to do, or not do, about that and b) concrete next steps on the business model, with potentially a new use case brought by David T.

Eve (sent from my iPhone, possibly with Siri's "help": +1-425-345-6756)

On Aug 20, 2018, at 9:18 PM, Eve Maler wrote:

FYI, the IEEE P7012 Working Group is holding its first meeting tomorrow. A number of familiar faces are presenting. (I'm one of them.)

http://sites.ieee.org/sagroups-7012/21-august-2018- meeting-agenda-preliminary/

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On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 12:11 AM, Iain Henderson wrote:

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Hi Colin, my understanding is that the IEEE made a proactive request to Customer Commons to take the lead on this work.

There does seem to be a degree of overlap with User Submitted Terms, but that has not made a lot of progress of late. My take on that is that the UST work is now better thought of as Information Sharing Agreements rather than specific terms; in many ways they amount to the same thing, with the latter now being the more common term of art. That in itself is interesting in that Information Sharing Agreements was actually the first work product in what was them ISWG; we pushed on that door for 3 years or so but ran out of steam as the tech did not exist at the time.

One suggestion, discussed by John W, Andrew and I at IIW was to re-badge the User Submitted Terms strand as Information Sharing Agreements. John and I are both happy to lead on that work as it is most relevant to JLINC.

One for discussion.

Cheers

Iain

On 9 Apr 2018, at 08:59, Colin Wallis wrote:

Thanks for this Eve

Of course IEEE-SA was on Kantara's Board until mid 2016 until I believe it was put under pressure from its twin organization IEEE-ISTO, following Kantara's transitioning to another service management company. Until that time, we had a positive and active relationship IIRC.

Perhaps this is an opportunity to rekindle that, tho' I'm still trying to work out Customer Commons' position in this, since it leads the UST project in Kantara. Interesting times indeed!..

In any event I have completed the contact form and await to see if anything comes of it, and I would encourage individuals, and corporate members of IEEE-SA to do likewise.

Thanks again Eve

Kind regards

Colin

Executive Director Cell: +44 (0)7490 266 778 @KantaraColin Kantara's London Summit May 22nd - Marketing, Media & Privacy https://mmap2018.kantarainitiative.org/ Kantara Consent Receipt and UMA are 2 of the top 5 https://identiverse.com/2017/12/18/five-identity-trends-watch-2018/ Kantara Initiative Inc https://kantarainitiative.org/ & Kantara Initiative, Europe

On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 4:05 AM, Eve Maler wrote:

...
Hi WGs-- This past week at IIW a session was held (I wasn't able to attend the session itself) about an IEEE project to develop "machine readable personal privacy terms":

https://standards.ieee.org/develop/project/7012.html

"The purpose of the standard is to provide individuals with means to proffer their own terms respecting personal privacy, in ways that can be read, acknowledged and agreed to by machines operated by others in the networked world. In a more formal sense, the purpose of the standard is to enable individuals to operate as first parties in agreements with others--mostly companies--operating as second parties. Note that the purpose of this standard is not to address privacy policies, since these are one-sided and need no agreement. (Terms require agreement; privacy policies do not.)"

This seems to have potential relevance for Consent Receipts, User Submitted Terms, UMA, and UMA Legal.

Joyce Searls was the one announcing the session during agenda creation, so I managed to speak with her prior to the scheduled session, and she shared this link with me afterwards. She also said "Take a look at the write up and click through to register interest. We will be having our first formal meeting within a month or so."

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Doc Searls

8:25 p.m.

New subject: [WG-InfoSharing] FYI, IEEE SA 7012 - Standard for Machine Readable Personal Privacy Terms

I've known Oliver for many years, mostly through the Berkman Klein Center. Big fan here. Can't do better. Doc

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On Aug 23, 2018, at 3:46 PM, David J. Thelander wrote:

Dear Eve and All,

Good call today. I am following up to ask who of you on the call would like to join a “Vermont potential UMA use case and PIPC” call - please let me know (I don’t think I have everyone’s emails) and I will set it up.

Thanks much. Also, below I also include our firm’s announcement that Oliver Goodenough has joined our firm. Tim, you obviously know Oliver and I thought I would include him in this effort moving forward if that makes sense to you folks. Oliver is connected with the IEEE folks, for example.

Cheers, D.

Legal Innovation Expert Oliver Goodenough Joins Gravel & Shea

Burlington, Vermont (August 20, 2018): Oliver Goodenough joins Gravel & Shea as Special Counsel, bringing with him decades of experience researching, writing and teaching at the intersection of law, economics, finance, and technology. He specializes in corporate and financial matters, with a particular emphasis on the law of technological applications such as blockchain, FinTech, RegTech, and artificial intelligence. He also advises on early stage business, entertainment law, intellectual property, nonprofits and social enterprise.

Goodenough is co-founder of Skopos Labs, Inc., which applies advanced AI to questions of law and policy, and a Professor of Law at Vermont Law School. He is also affiliated faculty at Stanford’s CodeX Center, a Research Fellow of the Gruter Institute for Law and Behavioral Research, and an Adjunct Professor at Dartmouth’s Thayer School of Engineering. He recently stepped down as co-Director of the VLS Center for Legal Innovation and as a visiting IPA Researcher at the Office of Financial Research.

“I am excited to join Gravel & Shea,” said Goodenough. “The firm has excellent lawyers and a distinguished history — as well as a practice at the cutting edge of financial and legal technology, representing clients in blockchain and related fields. I will bring my academic and practice skills in these areas to help grow the field in Vermont and around the world.”

Goodenough’s work in emerging areas of law — particularly in the field of contracts and business organizations — has impacted policy at both the state and national levels. He is a co-author of Vermont’s recent blockchain legislation and a participant in the state’s blockchain study committee. At the national level, he has collaborated with the Office of Financial Research at the Department of the Treasury on the possibility of automating financial instruments.

“I have known and worked with Oliver for many years on initiatives to improve and innovate business legislation here in Vermont,” said Gravel & Shea Shareholder Peter Erly. “A number of these projects involved first-in-the-nation legislative initiatives, including recent blockchain legislation, for which Oliver was responsible. Oliver provides a unique ability to identify legal issues affecting new developments in technology while also offering a deep background in a wide array of legal disciplines pertinent to businesses inside and outside of Vermont. We are extremely fortunate to have him join Gravel & Shea.”

Goodenough is a graduate of Harvard University and the University of Pennsylvania Law School. He was formerly an IPA Researcher and Visiting Fellow at the Office of Financial Research of the Department of the Treasury, a partner and of counsel at the New York City law firm of Kay Collyer & Boose, and a Faculty Fellow and co-Director of the Law Lab project at Harvard University’s Berkman Center for Internet & Society.

Gravel & Shea is a full-service law firm in Burlington, Vermont, providing its clients legal services in a wide variety of disciplines, including commercial transactions, civil litigation, real estate, intellectual property, energy, land use and environmental regulation, estate planning, mergers and acquisitions, personal injury litigation, employment law, and family law.

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On Aug 21, 2018, at 9:13 PM, Eve Maler mailto:eve@xmlgrrl.com> wrote:

Here is the deck we presented:

https://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/download/attachments/17760302/IEEE%... https://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/download/attachments/17760302/IEEE%...

We have a telecon this week (for which I’ll send an agenda before Wednesday is out). I’m thinking we can discuss a) authorization at the RS and what to do, or not do, about that and b) concrete next steps on the business model, with potentially a new use case brought by David T.

Eve (sent from my iPhone, possibly with Siri's "help": +1-425-345-6756)

On Aug 20, 2018, at 9:18 PM, Eve Maler mailto:eve@xmlgrrl.com> wrote:

...
FYI, the IEEE P7012 Working Group is holding its first meeting tomorrow. A number of familiar faces are presenting. (I'm one of them.)

http://sites.ieee.org/sagroups-7012/21-august-2018-meeting-agenda-preliminar... http://sites.ieee.org/sagroups-7012/21-august-2018-meeting-agenda-preliminar...

Eve Maler Cell +1 425.345.6756 | Skype: xmlgrrl | Twitter: @xmlgrrl

On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 12:11 AM, Iain Henderson mailto:iainhenderson@mac.com> wrote: Hi Colin, my understanding is that the IEEE made a proactive request to Customer Commons to take the lead on this work.

There does seem to be a degree of overlap with User Submitted Terms, but that has not made a lot of progress of late. My take on that is that the UST work is now better thought of as Information Sharing Agreements rather than specific terms; in many ways they amount to the same thing, with the latter now being the more common term of art. That in itself is interesting in that Information Sharing Agreements was actually the first work product in what was them ISWG; we pushed on that door for 3 years or so but ran out of steam as the tech did not exist at the time.

One suggestion, discussed by John W, Andrew and I at IIW was to re-badge the User Submitted Terms strand as Information Sharing Agreements. John and I are both happy to lead on that work as it is most relevant to JLINC.

One for discussion.

Cheers

Iain

On 9 Apr 2018, at 08:59, Colin Wallis mailto:colin@kantarainitiative.org> wrote:

...
Thanks for this Eve

Of course IEEE-SA was on Kantara's Board until mid 2016 until I believe it was put under pressure from its twin organization IEEE-ISTO, following Kantara's transitioning to another service management company. Until that time, we had a positive and active relationship IIRC.

Perhaps this is an opportunity to rekindle that, tho' I'm still trying to work out Customer Commons' position in this, since it leads the UST project in Kantara. Interesting times indeed!..

In any event I have completed the contact form and await to see if anything comes of it, and I would encourage individuals, and corporate members of IEEE-SA to do likewise.

Thanks again Eve

Kind regards

Colin

Executive Director Cell: +44 (0)7490 266 778 @KantaraColin Kantara's London Summit May 22nd - Marketing, Media & Privacy https://mmap2018.kantarainitiative.org/ Kantara Consent Receipt and UMA are 2 of the top 5 https://identiverse.com/2017/12/18/five-identity-trends-watch-2018/ Kantara Initiative Inc https://kantarainitiative.org/ & Kantara Initiative, Europe

On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 4:05 AM, Eve Maler mailto:eve@xmlgrrl.com> wrote: Hi WGs-- This past week at IIW a session was held (I wasn't able to attend the session itself) about an IEEE project to develop "machine readable personal privacy terms":

https://standards.ieee.org/develop/project/7012.html https://standards.ieee.org/develop/project/7012.html

"The purpose of the standard is to provide individuals with means to proffer their own terms respecting personal privacy, in ways that can be read, acknowledged and agreed to by machines operated by others in the networked world. In a more formal sense, the purpose of the standard is to enable individuals to operate as first parties in agreements with others--mostly companies--operating as second parties. Note that the purpose of this standard is not to address privacy policies, since these are one-sided and need no agreement. (Terms require agreement; privacy policies do not.)"

This seems to have potential relevance for Consent Receipts, User Submitted Terms, UMA, and UMA Legal.

Joyce Searls was the one announcing the session during agenda creation, so I managed to speak with her prior to the scheduled session, and she shared this link with me afterwards. She also said "Take a look at the write up and click through to register interest. We will be having our first formal meeting within a month or so."

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Colin Wallis Kantara

9:22 p.m.

New subject: [WG-InfoSharing] FYI, IEEE SA 7012 - Standard for Machine Readable Personal Privacy Terms

Thank you David And thank you Eve and Doc for your helpful comments. Eve, I think you are correct in keeping the initial group tight to begin with so we don't overwhelm, and to set the 'BLT' scope to make the best use of everyone's time going forward. Kind regards Colin Executive Director Cell: +44 (0)7490 266 778 @KantaraColin Kantara Consent Receipt and UMA are 2 of the top 5 https://identiverse.com/2017/12/18/five-identity-trends-watch-2018/ Kantara Initiative https://kantarainitiative.org/, Kantara Educational Foundation https://edufoundation.kantarainitiative.org & Kantara Europe On Thu, Aug 23, 2018 at 9:25 PM, Doc Searls wrote:

...

I've known Oliver for many years, mostly through the Berkman Klein Center. Big fan here. Can't do better.

Doc

On Aug 23, 2018, at 3:46 PM, David J. Thelander wrote:

Dear Eve and All,

Good call today. I am following up to ask who of you on the call would like to join a “Vermont potential UMA use case and PIPC” call - please let me know (I don’t think I have everyone’s emails) and I will set it up.

Thanks much. Also, below I also include our firm’s announcement that Oliver Goodenough has joined our firm. Tim, you obviously know Oliver and I thought I would include him in this effort moving forward if that makes sense to you folks. Oliver is connected with the IEEE folks, for example.

Cheers, D. Legal Innovation Expert Oliver Goodenough Joins Gravel & Shea Burlington, Vermont (August 20, 2018): Oliver Goodenough joins Gravel & Shea as Special Counsel, bringing with him decades of experience researching, writing and teaching at the intersection of law, economics, finance, and technology. He specializes in corporate and financial matters, with a particular emphasis on the law of technological applications such as blockchain, FinTech, RegTech, and artificial intelligence. He also advises on early stage business, entertainment law, intellectual property, nonprofits and social enterprise.

Goodenough is co-founder of Skopos Labs, Inc., which applies advanced AI to questions of law and policy, and a Professor of Law at Vermont Law School. He is also affiliated faculty at Stanford’s CodeX Center, a Research Fellow of the Gruter Institute for Law and Behavioral Research, and an Adjunct Professor at Dartmouth’s Thayer School of Engineering. He recently stepped down as co-Director of the VLS Center for Legal Innovation and as a visiting IPA Researcher at the Office of Financial Research.

“I am excited to join Gravel & Shea,” said Goodenough. “The firm has excellent lawyers and a distinguished history — as well as a practice at the cutting edge of financial and legal technology, representing clients in blockchain and related fields. I will bring my academic and practice skills in these areas to help grow the field in Vermont and around the world.”

Goodenough’s work in emerging areas of law — particularly in the field of contracts and business organizations — has impacted policy at both the state and national levels. He is a co-author of Vermont’s recent blockchain legislation and a participant in the state’s blockchain study committee. At the national level, he has collaborated with the Office of Financial Research at the Department of the Treasury on the possibility of automating financial instruments.

“I have known and worked with Oliver for many years on initiatives to improve and innovate business legislation here in Vermont,” said Gravel & Shea Shareholder Peter Erly. “A number of these projects involved first-in-the-nation legislative initiatives, including recent blockchain legislation, for which Oliver was responsible. Oliver provides a unique ability to identify legal issues affecting new developments in technology while also offering a deep background in a wide array of legal disciplines pertinent to businesses inside and outside of Vermont. We are extremely fortunate to have him join Gravel & Shea.”

Goodenough is a graduate of Harvard University and the University of Pennsylvania Law School. He was formerly an IPA Researcher and Visiting Fellow at the Office of Financial Research of the Department of the Treasury, a partner and of counsel at the New York City law firm of Kay Collyer & Boose, and a Faculty Fellow and co-Director of the Law Lab project at Harvard University’s Berkman Center for Internet & Society.

Gravel & Shea is a full-service law firm in Burlington, Vermont, providing its clients legal services in a wide variety of disciplines, including commercial transactions, civil litigation, real estate, intellectual property, energy, land use and environmental regulation, estate planning, mergers and acquisitions, personal injury litigation, employment law, and family law.

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On Aug 21, 2018, at 9:13 PM, Eve Maler wrote:

Here is the deck we presented:

https://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/download/ attachments/17760302/IEEE%20P7012%20UMA%20preso%202018-08-20.pdf?api=v2

We have a telecon this week (for which I’ll send an agenda before Wednesday is out). I’m thinking we can discuss a) authorization at the RS and what to do, or not do, about that and b) concrete next steps on the business model, with potentially a new use case brought by David T.

Eve (sent from my iPhone, possibly with Siri's "help": +1-425-345-6756)

On Aug 20, 2018, at 9:18 PM, Eve Maler wrote:

FYI, the IEEE P7012 Working Group is holding its first meeting tomorrow. A number of familiar faces are presenting. (I'm one of them.)

http://sites.ieee.org/sagroups-7012/21-august-2018- meeting-agenda-preliminary/

*Eve Maler *Cell +1 425.345.6756 | Skype: xmlgrrl | Twitter: @xmlgrrl

On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 12:11 AM, Iain Henderson wrote:

...
Hi Colin, my understanding is that the IEEE made a proactive request to Customer Commons to take the lead on this work.

There does seem to be a degree of overlap with User Submitted Terms, but that has not made a lot of progress of late. My take on that is that the UST work is now better thought of as Information Sharing Agreements rather than specific terms; in many ways they amount to the same thing, with the latter now being the more common term of art. That in itself is interesting in that Information Sharing Agreements was actually the first work product in what was them ISWG; we pushed on that door for 3 years or so but ran out of steam as the tech did not exist at the time.

One suggestion, discussed by John W, Andrew and I at IIW was to re-badge the User Submitted Terms strand as Information Sharing Agreements. John and I are both happy to lead on that work as it is most relevant to JLINC.

One for discussion.

Cheers

Iain

On 9 Apr 2018, at 08:59, Colin Wallis wrote:

Thanks for this Eve

Of course IEEE-SA was on Kantara's Board until mid 2016 until I believe it was put under pressure from its twin organization IEEE-ISTO, following Kantara's transitioning to another service management company. Until that time, we had a positive and active relationship IIRC.

Perhaps this is an opportunity to rekindle that, tho' I'm still trying to work out Customer Commons' position in this, since it leads the UST project in Kantara. Interesting times indeed!..

In any event I have completed the contact form and await to see if anything comes of it, and I would encourage individuals, and corporate members of IEEE-SA to do likewise.

Thanks again Eve

Kind regards

Colin

Executive Director Cell: +44 (0)7490 266 778 @KantaraColin Kantara's London Summit May 22nd - Marketing, Media & Privacy https://mmap2018.kantarainitiative.org/ Kantara Consent Receipt and UMA are 2 of the top 5 https://identiverse.com/2017/12/18/five-identity-trends-watch-2018/ Kantara Initiative Inc https://kantarainitiative.org/ & Kantara Initiative, Europe

On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 4:05 AM, Eve Maler wrote:

...
Hi WGs-- This past week at IIW a session was held (I wasn't able to attend the session itself) about an IEEE project to develop "machine readable personal privacy terms":

https://standards.ieee.org/develop/project/7012.html

"The purpose of the standard is to provide individuals with means to proffer their own terms respecting personal privacy, in ways that can be read, acknowledged and agreed to by machines operated by others in the networked world. In a more formal sense, the purpose of the standard is to enable individuals to operate as first parties in agreements with others--mostly companies--operating as second parties. Note that the purpose of this standard is not to address privacy policies, since these are one-sided and need no agreement. (Terms require agreement; privacy policies do not.)"

This seems to have potential relevance for Consent Receipts, User Submitted Terms, UMA, and UMA Legal.

Joyce Searls was the one announcing the session during agenda creation, so I managed to speak with her prior to the scheduled session, and she shared this link with me afterwards. She also said "Take a look at the write up and click through to register interest. We will be having our first formal meeting within a month or so."

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Thomas Hardjono

10:02 p.m.

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Congrats to Oliver. @David: I’m very interested in the notion of the PIPC. There is definitely a possible use-case with UMA. — thomas — _________________________________ On Aug 23, 2018, at 17:23, Colin Wallis Kantara mailto:colin@kantarainitiative.org> wrote: Thank you David And thank you Eve and Doc for your helpful comments. Eve, I think you are correct in keeping the initial group tight to begin with so we don't overwhelm, and to set the 'BLT' scope to make the best use of everyone's time going forward. Kind regards Colin Executive Director Cell: +44 (0)7490 266 778 @KantaraColin Kantara Consent Receipt and UMA are 2 of the top 5https://identiverse.com/2017/12/18/five-identity-trends-watch-2018/ Kantara Initiativehttps://kantarainitiative.org/, Kantara Educational Foundationhttps://edufoundation.kantarainitiative.org & Kantara Europe [https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0B7y8c3lrgRtUUjRFMHFMQm1BR3M&export=download] On Thu, Aug 23, 2018 at 9:25 PM, Doc Searls mailto:dsearls@cyber.law.harvard.edu> wrote: I've known Oliver for many years, mostly through the Berkman Klein Center. Big fan here. Can't do better. Doc On Aug 23, 2018, at 3:46 PM, David J. Thelander mailto:dthelander@gravelshea.com> wrote: Dear Eve and All, Good call today. I am following up to ask who of you on the call would like to join a “Vermont potential UMA use case and PIPC” call - please let me know (I don’t think I have everyone’s emails) and I will set it up. Thanks much. Also, below I also include our firm’s announcement that Oliver Goodenough has joined our firm. Tim, you obviously know Oliver and I thought I would include him in this effort moving forward if that makes sense to you folks. Oliver is connected with the IEEE folks, for example. Cheers, D. [http://files.constantcontact.com/18d97434501/354ea650-383b-4d01-9c42-6216b9f...] Legal Innovation Expert Oliver Goodenough Joins Gravel & Shea [http://files.constantcontact.com/18d97434501/75f9ef5f-1748-4faf-a9ea-04721bc...] Burlington, Vermont (August 20, 2018): Oliver Goodenough joins Gravel & Shea as Special Counsel, bringing with him decades of experience researching, writing and teaching at the intersection of law, economics, finance, and technology. He specializes in corporate and financial matters, with a particular emphasis on the law of technological applications such as blockchain, FinTech, RegTech, and artificial intelligence. He also advises on early stage business, entertainment law, intellectual property, nonprofits and social enterprise. Goodenough is co-founder of Skopos Labs, Inc., which applies advanced AI to questions of law and policy, and a Professor of Law at Vermont Law School. He is also affiliated faculty at Stanford’s CodeX Center, a Research Fellow of the Gruter Institute for Law and Behavioral Research, and an Adjunct Professor at Dartmouth’s Thayer School of Engineering. He recently stepped down as co-Director of the VLS Center for Legal Innovation and as a visiting IPA Researcher at the Office of Financial Research. “I am excited to join Gravel & Shea,” said Goodenough. “The firm has excellent lawyers and a distinguished history — as well as a practice at the cutting edge of financial and legal technology, representing clients in blockchain and related fields. I will bring my academic and practice skills in these areas to help grow the field in Vermont and around the world.” Goodenough’s work in emerging areas of law — particularly in the field of contracts and business organizations — has impacted policy at both the state and national levels. He is a co-author of Vermont’s recent blockchain legislation and a participant in the state’s blockchain study committee. At the national level, he has collaborated with the Office of Financial Research at the Department of the Treasury on the possibility of automating financial instruments. “I have known and worked with Oliver for many years on initiatives to improve and innovate business legislation here in Vermont,” said Gravel & Shea Shareholder Peter Erly. “A number of these projects involved first-in-the-nation legislative initiatives, including recent blockchain legislation, for which Oliver was responsible. Oliver provides a unique ability to identify legal issues affecting new developments in technology while also offering a deep background in a wide array of legal disciplines pertinent to businesses inside and outside of Vermont. We are extremely fortunate to have him join Gravel & Shea.” Goodenough is a graduate of Harvard University and the University of Pennsylvania Law School. He was formerly an IPA Researcher and Visiting Fellow at the Office of Financial Research of the Department of the Treasury, a partner and of counsel at the New York City law firm of Kay Collyer & Boose, and a Faculty Fellow and co-Director of the Law Lab project at Harvard University’s Berkman Center for Internet & Society. 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If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or duplication of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. On Aug 21, 2018, at 9:13 PM, Eve Maler mailto:eve@xmlgrrl.com> wrote: Here is the deck we presented: https://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/download/attachments/17760302/IEEE%... We have a telecon this week (for which I’ll send an agenda before Wednesday is out). I’m thinking we can discuss a) authorization at the RS and what to do, or not do, about that and b) concrete next steps on the business model, with potentially a new use case brought by David T. Eve (sent from my iPhone, possibly with Siri's "help": +1-425-345-6756) On Aug 20, 2018, at 9:18 PM, Eve Maler mailto:eve@xmlgrrl.com> wrote: FYI, the IEEE P7012 Working Group is holding its first meeting tomorrow. A number of familiar faces are presenting. (I'm one of them.) http://sites.ieee.org/sagroups-7012/21-august-2018-meeting-agenda-preliminar... Eve Maler Cell +1 425.345.6756 | Skype: xmlgrrl | Twitter: @xmlgrrl On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 12:11 AM, Iain Henderson mailto:iainhenderson@mac.com> wrote: Hi Colin, my understanding is that the IEEE made a proactive request to Customer Commons to take the lead on this work. There does seem to be a degree of overlap with User Submitted Terms, but that has not made a lot of progress of late. My take on that is that the UST work is now better thought of as Information Sharing Agreements rather than specific terms; in many ways they amount to the same thing, with the latter now being the more common term of art. That in itself is interesting in that Information Sharing Agreements was actually the first work product in what was them ISWG; we pushed on that door for 3 years or so but ran out of steam as the tech did not exist at the time. One suggestion, discussed by John W, Andrew and I at IIW was to re-badge the User Submitted Terms strand as Information Sharing Agreements. John and I are both happy to lead on that work as it is most relevant to JLINC. One for discussion. Cheers Iain On 9 Apr 2018, at 08:59, Colin Wallis mailto:colin@kantarainitiative.org> wrote: Thanks for this Eve Of course IEEE-SA was on Kantara's Board until mid 2016 until I believe it was put under pressure from its twin organization IEEE-ISTO, following Kantara's transitioning to another service management company. Until that time, we had a positive and active relationship IIRC. Perhaps this is an opportunity to rekindle that, tho' I'm still trying to work out Customer Commons' position in this, since it leads the UST project in Kantara. Interesting times indeed!.. In any event I have completed the contact form and await to see if anything comes of it, and I would encourage individuals, and corporate members of IEEE-SA to do likewise. Thanks again Eve Kind regards Colin Executive Director Cell: +44 (0)7490 266 778 @KantaraColin Kantara's London Summit May 22nd - Marketing, Media & Privacyhttps://mmap2018.kantarainitiative.org/ Kantara Consent Receipt and UMA are 2 of the top 5https://identiverse.com/2017/12/18/five-identity-trends-watch-2018/ Kantara Initiative Inchttps://kantarainitiative.org/ & Kantara Initiative, Europe [https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0B7y8c3lrgRtUUjRFMHFMQm1BR3M&export=download] On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 4:05 AM, Eve Maler mailto:eve@xmlgrrl.com> wrote: Hi WGs-- This past week at IIW a session was held (I wasn't able to attend the session itself) about an IEEE project to develop "machine readable personal privacy terms": https://standards.ieee.org/develop/project/7012.html "The purpose of the standard is to provide individuals with means to proffer their own terms respecting personal privacy, in ways that can be read, acknowledged and agreed to by machines operated by others in the networked world. In a more formal sense, the purpose of the standard is to enable individuals to operate as first parties in agreements with others--mostly companies--operating as second parties. Note that the purpose of this standard is not to address privacy policies, since these are one-sided and need no agreement. (Terms require agreement; privacy policies do not.)" This seems to have potential relevance for Consent Receipts, User Submitted Terms, UMA, and UMA Legal. Joyce Searls was the one announcing the session during agenda creation, so I managed to speak with her prior to the scheduled session, and she shared this link with me afterwards. She also said "Take a look at the write up and click through to register interest. We will be having our first formal meeting within a month or so." 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FYI, IEEE SA 7012 - Standard for Machine Readable Personal Privacy Terms

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