Question for the collective on enterprise memberships
All - Our Member Services team did a great job putting together a corporate membership structure. In this structure, we do not differentiate between an enterprise member and a vendor member. But that said, there are some benefits such as brand placement and ability to submit curated content, that would appeal to vendor members more so than enterprise members. My question to the collective: as an enterprise member, would you want to trade brand placement and other marketing benefits of membership for an increased number of individual memberships? For example, would you be willing to forego having your brand on the IDPro website in order to get a few more individual IDPro memberships you could give out to employees? i -- Ian Glazer Senior Director, Identity +1 202 255 3166 @iglazer <https://twitter.com/iglazer>
Why are we building yet another organization in identity? Sent from my iPhone
On Jun 8, 2017, at 8:15 AM, Ian Glazer <iglazer@salesforce.com> wrote:
All -
Our Member Services team did a great job putting together a corporate membership structure. In this structure, we do not differentiate between an enterprise member and a vendor member. But that said, there are some benefits such as brand placement and ability to submit curated content, that would appeal to vendor members more so than enterprise members.
My question to the collective: as an enterprise member, would you want to trade brand placement and other marketing benefits of membership for an increased number of individual memberships? For example, would you be willing to forego having your brand on the IDPro website in order to get a few more individual IDPro memberships you could give out to employees?
i
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Hi Kaliya, The idea is that there is no "CISSP for identity professionals". Arguably there is no organization (like the IAPP for privacy professionals) that is formally chartered as a professional organization for identity professionals to create codes of ethics, bodies and knowledge and so forth. To agree on what an identify professional needs to know, train and certify a bona fide identity professional. And there seems to a market demand - we have a lot of anecdotal indications that companies are having trouble finding qualified identity professionals, determining whether the ones they interviews are qualified, and in some cases training internal up to speed. Best regards, Dan Blum Security Architects Partners Check out the blog at http://security-architect.com ---------------------- We are a highly-experienced group of consultants dedicated to helping clients plan, specify and develop security programs, policies and technology solutions. PS - Completely coincidentally, I was just thinking early this morning about your Identity Identity Workshop conferences and how you used to (still?) introduce unconference proceeding by saying something like "whatever happened in a meeting was the only thing that could have happened, and it is ok." That seems like a great SIMPLIFYING ASSUMPTION FOR LIFE ITSELF! In the present moment, all that is past cannot be changed and the only resourceful thing to do with it is to learn for it. I love this! Looking forward to coming back to one of your conferences one of these days :-) On Thu, Jun 8, 2017 at 11:39 AM, Kaliya Identity Woman < kaliya@identitywoman.net> wrote:
Why are we building yet another organization in identity?
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On Jun 8, 2017, at 8:15 AM, Ian Glazer <iglazer@salesforce.com> wrote:
All -
Our Member Services team did a great job putting together a corporate membership structure. In this structure, we do not differentiate between an enterprise member and a vendor member. But that said, there are some benefits such as brand placement and ability to submit curated content, that would appeal to vendor members more so than enterprise members.
My question to the collective: as an enterprise member, would you want to trade brand placement and other marketing benefits of membership for an increased number of individual memberships? For example, would you be willing to forego having your brand on the IDPro website in order to get a few more individual IDPro memberships you could give out to employees?
i
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I still agree with Kaliya's question despite Dan's answer. The need seems to be for professional certification. Why is the solution yet another organisation in identity? Cheers Bryn Sent from my iPhone
On 8 Jun 2017, at 16:51, Dan Blum <dan.blum@security-architect.com> wrote:
Hi Kaliya, The idea is that there is no "CISSP for identity professionals". Arguably there is no organization (like the IAPP for privacy professionals) that is formally chartered as a professional organization for identity professionals to create codes of ethics, bodies and knowledge and so forth. To agree on what an identify professional needs to know, train and certify a bona fide identity professional.
And there seems to a market demand - we have a lot of anecdotal indications that companies are having trouble finding qualified identity professionals, determining whether the ones they interviews are qualified, and in some cases training internal up to speed.
Best regards,
Dan Blum Security Architects Partners Check out the blog at http://security-architect.com ---------------------- We are a highly-experienced group of consultants dedicated to helping clients plan, specify and develop security programs, policies and technology solutions.
PS - Completely coincidentally, I was just thinking early this morning about your Identity Identity Workshop conferences and how you used to (still?) introduce unconference proceeding by saying something like "whatever happened in a meeting was the only thing that could have happened, and it is ok."
That seems like a great SIMPLIFYING ASSUMPTION FOR LIFE ITSELF! In the present moment, all that is past cannot be changed and the only resourceful thing to do with it is to learn for it. I love this! Looking forward to coming back to one of your conferences one of these days :-)
On Thu, Jun 8, 2017 at 11:39 AM, Kaliya Identity Woman <kaliya@identitywoman.net> wrote: Why are we building yet another organization in identity?
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On Jun 8, 2017, at 8:15 AM, Ian Glazer <iglazer@salesforce.com> wrote:
All -
Our Member Services team did a great job putting together a corporate membership structure. In this structure, we do not differentiate between an enterprise member and a vendor member. But that said, there are some benefits such as brand placement and ability to submit curated content, that would appeal to vendor members more so than enterprise members.
My question to the collective: as an enterprise member, would you want to trade brand placement and other marketing benefits of membership for an increased number of individual memberships? For example, would you be willing to forego having your brand on the IDPro website in order to get a few more individual IDPro memberships you could give out to employees?
i
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When I explain this to my colleagues, I use a high-level generalization. I tell them IDPro is to Identity what IAPP is to Privacy. Then they get. IMHO, we have needed this for a long time. Clare Nelson, CISSP, CIPP/E Director, Office of the CTO MOBILE 512.497.8829 816 Congress Ave. Suite 1800, Austin,TX 78701 www.allclearid.com<http://www.allclearid.com/> Ranked one of Austin’s Top Workplaces From: <dg-idpro-bounces@kantarainitiative.org> on behalf of Kaliya Identity Woman <kaliya@identitywoman.net> Date: Thursday, June 8, 2017 at 10:39 AM To: Ian Glazer <iglazer@salesforce.com> Cc: "DG-IDPro@kantarainitiative.org" <DG-IDPro@kantarainitiative.org> Subject: Re: [DG-IDPro] Question for the collective on enterprise memberships Why are we building yet another organization in identity? Sent from my iPhone On Jun 8, 2017, at 8:15 AM, Ian Glazer <iglazer@salesforce.com<mailto:iglazer@salesforce.com>> wrote: All - Our Member Services team did a great job putting together a corporate membership structure. In this structure, we do not differentiate between an enterprise member and a vendor member. But that said, there are some benefits such as brand placement and ability to submit curated content, that would appeal to vendor members more so than enterprise members. My question to the collective: as an enterprise member, would you want to trade brand placement and other marketing benefits of membership for an increased number of individual memberships? For example, would you be willing to forego having your brand on the IDPro website in order to get a few more individual IDPro memberships you could give out to employees? i -- Ian Glazer Senior Director, Identity +1 202 255 3166 @iglazer<https://twitter.com/iglazer> _______________________________________________ DG-IDPro mailing list DG-IDPro@kantarainitiative.org<mailto:DG-IDPro@kantarainitiative.org> http://kantarainitiative.org/mailman/listinfo/dg-idpro AllClear ID This message and any attachment(s) are intended for exclusive use by the individual(s) to which they are addressed and may contain confidential information for use by such recipient(s). You are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of the material included in this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify support immediately by calling 1-888-332-4963, and delete this message, any copies of this message, and all attachments thereunto.
My company wouldn’t want any brand placement so the tradeoff suggested would work for us. George Dobbs |Architect | Technology & Administration | MassMutual T: (413) 744-5261 | C: (413) 209-4349 From: dg-idpro-bounces@kantarainitiative.org [mailto:dg-idpro-bounces@kantarainitiative.org] On Behalf Of Ian Glazer Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2017 11:15 AM To: DG-IDPro@kantarainitiative.org Subject: [EXTERNAL][DG-IDPro] Question for the collective on enterprise memberships All - Our Member Services team did a great job putting together a corporate membership structure. In this structure, we do not differentiate between an enterprise member and a vendor member. But that said, there are some benefits such as brand placement and ability to submit curated content, that would appeal to vendor members more so than enterprise members. My question to the collective: as an enterprise member, would you want to trade brand placement and other marketing benefits of membership for an increased number of individual memberships? For example, would you be willing to forego having your brand on the IDPro website in order to get a few more individual IDPro memberships you could give out to employees? i -- Ian Glazer Senior Director, Identity +1 202 255 3166 @iglazer<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__twitter.com_iglazer&d=DwMFaQ&c=BX7Y4KpGhcDnIsrgHKqkbfoiiDvjhxwuYUpcrPD7xrE&r=lRpK8rQALtOWum6bbF9qagdFRZfRi8pAkmSiplgL48I&m=Q5zW-l7RO1C2xE6GuprKluKuqyDoW7o4O8QbmB_dnpk&s=pfad0jISC_KKz7OlY4xX_XTul6gezoA_yc7N5HqTDRI&e=> This e-mail transmission may contain information that is proprietary, privileged and/or confidential and is intended exclusively for the person(s) to whom it is addressed. Any use, copying, retention or disclosure by any person other than the intended recipient or the intended recipient's designees is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient or their designee, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete all copies.
Seconded with George. Membership over branding. On Thu, Jun 8, 2017 at 12:23 PM, Dobbs, George <gdobbs@massmutual.com> wrote:
My company wouldn’t want any brand placement so the tradeoff suggested would work for us.
*George Dobbs |**Architect | Technology & Administration | **MassMutual*
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*From:* dg-idpro-bounces@kantarainitiative.org [mailto:dg-idpro-bounces@ kantarainitiative.org] *On Behalf Of *Ian Glazer *Sent:* Thursday, June 08, 2017 11:15 AM *To:* DG-IDPro@kantarainitiative.org *Subject:* [EXTERNAL][DG-IDPro] Question for the collective on enterprise memberships
All -
Our Member Services team did a great job putting together a corporate membership structure. In this structure, we do not differentiate between an enterprise member and a vendor member. But that said, there are some benefits such as brand placement and ability to submit curated content, that would appeal to vendor members more so than enterprise members.
My question to the collective: as an enterprise member, would you want to trade brand placement and other marketing benefits of membership for an increased number of individual memberships? For example, would you be willing to forego having your brand on the IDPro website in order to get a few more individual IDPro memberships you could give out to employees?
i
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Same here. Olaf
On 8 Jun 2017, at 19:55, Lance Peterman <lpeterman@gmail.com> wrote:
Seconded with George. Membership over branding.
On Thu, Jun 8, 2017 at 12:23 PM, Dobbs, George <gdobbs@massmutual.com> wrote: My company wouldn’t want any brand placement so the tradeoff suggested would work for us.
George Dobbs |Architect | Technology & Administration | MassMutual
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From: dg-idpro-bounces@kantarainitiative.org [mailto:dg-idpro-bounces@kantarainitiative.org] On Behalf Of Ian Glazer Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2017 11:15 AM To: DG-IDPro@kantarainitiative.org Subject: [EXTERNAL][DG-IDPro] Question for the collective on enterprise memberships
All -
Our Member Services team did a great job putting together a corporate membership structure. In this structure, we do not differentiate between an enterprise member and a vendor member. But that said, there are some benefits such as brand placement and ability to submit curated content, that would appeal to vendor members more so than enterprise members.
My question to the collective: as an enterprise member, would you want to trade brand placement and other marketing benefits of membership for an increased number of individual memberships? For example, would you be willing to forego having your brand on the IDPro website in order to get a few more individual IDPro memberships you could give out to employees?
i
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Ian Glazer
Senior Director, Identity
+1 202 255 3166
@iglazer
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Bryn Robinson-Morgan -
Clare Nelson -
Dan Blum -
Dobbs, George -
Ian Glazer -
Kaliya Identity Woman -
Lance Peterman -
Olaf Grewe