Not detailed taxonomy at this point - the goal is to sketch out what areas of knowledge ID Professionals should know. So that by February, we've got a reasonably good idea of the expected common knowledge areas. The work to flesh out that structure would be a follow-on step. andrew. *Andrew Hughes *CISM CISSP Independent Consultant *In Turn Information Management Consulting* o +1 650.209.7542 m +1 250.888.9474 1249 Palmer Road, Victoria, BC V8P 2H8 AndrewHughes3000@gmail.com ca.linkedin.com/pub/andrew-hughes/a/58/682/ *Identity Management | IT Governance | Information Security * On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 11:33 AM, Kaliya Identity Woman < kaliya@identitywoman.net> wrote:

I guess I'm just confused. I thought Colin said that the time wasn't right to "do taxonomy work"

On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 7:25 AM, Steve Hutchinson wrote:

...

Ian,

I am also interested in the taxonomy work but as Scott noted, I think everyone else is as well. I would be willing to work on the governance and organizational structure effort, provided there were others willing to assist, especially those with far more experience in setting up these groups than myself.

Scoot, I would also be willing to help you on the code of conduct work where I can.

Hutch

On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 10:02 AM, Ian Glazer wrote:

...

All -

There a few areas that we need to small self-lead project teams to start digging into: * Membership models (including fee structures) * Governance and organization structure (including how are members represented in organizational leadership) * Services (prioritizing which member services the organization rolls out first with an eye on a minimally viable organization in March 2017) * Codes of Conduct/Practice (for both members, the online forum, and the larger Code of Practice) * Taxonomy of the Body of Knowledge (beginning the work to name the buckets into which we will pour content)

This is your time to get involved. My hope is that you pick one of these areas and help move the organization forward. We are also looking for people willing to lead these project teams.

Also, let's all be realistic about our time. We are all very busy and we are heading into a time of the year where we should be spending more time with our families and loved ones. So with that said, be realistic about how much time you have to devote to ID Pro. I know that all of these project areas are interesting and we all want to hear the results of the work in each area, but it is not realistic to think each of us can participate in each area. I'd rather hear that you can spend a few meaningful hours working on a single project over hearing that you spread the same amount of time across multiple groups.

Lastly, if you think there are areas that we absolutely *must* tackle in the next six weeks, please bring them forward.

Thanks,

i

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yes, I think so One factor to consider is that we have a time box to work inside: probably 5 or 6 calendar weeks - it will limit the detail and depth we can reach and generally agree on. *Andrew Hughes *CISM CISSP Independent Consultant *In Turn Information Management Consulting* o +1 650.209.7542 m +1 250.888.9474 1249 Palmer Road, Victoria, BC V8P 2H8 AndrewHughes3000@gmail.com ca.linkedin.com/pub/andrew-hughes/a/58/682/ *Identity Management | IT Governance | Information Security * On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 11:42 AM, Kaliya Identity Woman < kaliya@identitywoman.net> wrote:

Ah Ok. So more like what I suggested at the end of my note on that earlier thread.

Existing resources that are note helpful in the context of big broad categories of knowledge.

- Kaliya

On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 11:39 AM, Andrew Hughes < andrewhughes3000@gmail.com> wrote:

...

Not detailed taxonomy at this point - the goal is to sketch out what areas of knowledge ID Professionals should know. So that by February, we've got a reasonably good idea of the expected common knowledge areas.

The work to flesh out that structure would be a follow-on step.

andrew.

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On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 11:33 AM, Kaliya Identity Woman < kaliya@identitywoman.net> wrote:

...

I guess I'm just confused. I thought Colin said that the time wasn't right to "do taxonomy work"

On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 7:25 AM, Steve Hutchinson < sehutchinson@gmail.com> wrote:

...

Ian,

I am also interested in the taxonomy work but as Scott noted, I think everyone else is as well. I would be willing to work on the governance and organizational structure effort, provided there were others willing to assist, especially those with far more experience in setting up these groups than myself.

Scoot, I would also be willing to help you on the code of conduct work where I can.

Hutch

On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 10:02 AM, Ian Glazer wrote:

...

All -

There a few areas that we need to small self-lead project teams to start digging into: * Membership models (including fee structures) * Governance and organization structure (including how are members represented in organizational leadership) * Services (prioritizing which member services the organization rolls out first with an eye on a minimally viable organization in March 2017) * Codes of Conduct/Practice (for both members, the online forum, and the larger Code of Practice) * Taxonomy of the Body of Knowledge (beginning the work to name the buckets into which we will pour content)

This is your time to get involved. My hope is that you pick one of these areas and help move the organization forward. We are also looking for people willing to lead these project teams.

Also, let's all be realistic about our time. We are all very busy and we are heading into a time of the year where we should be spending more time with our families and loved ones. So with that said, be realistic about how much time you have to devote to ID Pro. I know that all of these project areas are interesting and we all want to hear the results of the work in each area, but it is not realistic to think each of us can participate in each area. I'd rather hear that you can spend a few meaningful hours working on a single project over hearing that you spread the same amount of time across multiple groups.

Lastly, if you think there are areas that we absolutely *must* tackle in the next six weeks, please bring them forward.

Thanks,

i

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Thanks to those of you who have raised your hand so far A couple things: - yes, Kantara will provide conference bridge and screen sharing tools - we'll also put the subgroup meeting times on the Kantara calendar - Kantara also uses the Confluence wiki if you want a wiki space - We have to firm up timelines for the sub-groups reporting back to the main DG but please anticipate that we'll need firm-ish drafts in December - this is partly because we know there will be some discussion, alignment and packaging work that will have to happen in January. I'll collect up names, meeting times etc as the groups form to make it easier to find where to lend a hand. If you are intending to contribute on a wiki, please start the process to get an account provisioned. The wiki spaces are read-only for non-authenticated users. - Start this from the Log In link (top right) on the wiki landing page: http://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/GI/Home Andrew Secretary, ID Pro DG *Andrew Hughes *CISM CISSP Independent Consultant *In Turn Information Management Consulting* o +1 650.209.7542 m +1 250.888.9474 1249 Palmer Road, Victoria, BC V8P 2H8 AndrewHughes3000@gmail.com ca.linkedin.com/pub/andrew-hughes/a/58/682/ *Identity Management | IT Governance | Information Security * On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 8:38 AM, Giles Watkins wrote:

Hi Ian

I’m happy to help drive this as I am sure it is a necessary and worthwhile venture.

Areas I think I could be of particular help are:

- Membership models

- Services

I see the two as being somewhat linked – as I suspect members will pay based on the nature of the services they receive.

If I can be so bold, could we possibly make the first item ‘revenue models’ rather than just membership? I suspect there are various ways of getting paid, dependent on the services we would look for the organisation to provide.

Giles

Giles Watkins

CEO

Pridium

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All -

There a few areas that we need to small self-lead project teams to start digging into:

* Membership models (including fee structures)

* Governance and organization structure (including how are members represented in organizational leadership)

* Services (prioritizing which member services the organization rolls out first with an eye on a minimally viable organization in March 2017)

* Codes of Conduct/Practice (for both members, the online forum, and the larger Code of Practice)

* Taxonomy of the Body of Knowledge (beginning the work to name the buckets into which we will pour content)

This is your time to get involved. My hope is that you pick one of these areas and help move the organization forward. We are also looking for people willing to lead these project teams.

Also, let's all be realistic about our time. We are all very busy and we are heading into a time of the year where we should be spending more time with our families and loved ones. So with that said, be realistic about how much time you have to devote to ID Pro. I know that all of these project areas are interesting and we all want to hear the results of the work in each area, but it is not realistic to think each of us can participate in each area. I'd rather hear that you can spend a few meaningful hours working on a single project over hearing that you spread the same amount of time across multiple groups.

Lastly, if you think there are areas that we absolutely *must* tackle in the next six weeks, please bring them forward.

Thanks,

i

--

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Senior Director, Identity

+1 202 255 3166

@iglazer https://twitter.com/iglazer

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I can do the Taxonomy Stuff Leadership, if that is ok for that team (but am also fine if Andrew would like to do that, as he already provided valuable input from 2016 IIW) Thorsten On 15.11.2016 15:52, Ian Glazer wrote:

First, thanks to everyone who has stepped up to help in our next phase of work.

Second, here's the groups as they stand so far. A few people have indicated they are willing to lead their project teams. I will ask the leaders to coordinate with Shannon and Megan to get dial-in information for their meetings and schedule them as they and their groups see fit. Also, we currently in need of a leader for Taxonomy.

With that, here are the project groups: * * *Membership:* * Patrick Essien * Giles Watkins (offered to lead)

*Code of Conduct/Practice:* * Scott Shorter (offered to lead) * Steve Hutchinson

*Taxonomy:* * Stu Lincoln * George Dobbs * Thorsten Niebuhr * Andrew Hughes * Catherine Schulten

Regarding the remaining 2 groups - Governance and Services - I am working on a leader for Services but would love some people to help here. As for Governance, the DG's leadership plus the special committee (Colin, Ken, etc) are going to work on this.

Project leaders - please reach out to Shannon and Megan to get conference call info. Set a schedule with your group as you see fit. Feel free to recruit new members as well.

Thanks again everyone and we'll talk tomorrow.

i

On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 12:35 PM, Andrew Hughes mailto:andrewhughes3000@gmail.com> wrote:

Thanks to those of you who have raised your hand so far

A couple things: - yes, Kantara will provide conference bridge and screen sharing tools - we'll also put the subgroup meeting times on the Kantara calendar - Kantara also uses the Confluence wiki if you want a wiki space - We have to firm up timelines for the sub-groups reporting back to the main DG but please anticipate that we'll need firm-ish drafts in December - this is partly because we know there will be some discussion, alignment and packaging work that will have to happen in January.

I'll collect up names, meeting times etc as the groups form to make it easier to find where to lend a hand.

If you are intending to contribute on a wiki, please start the process to get an account provisioned. The wiki spaces are read-only for non-authenticated users. - Start this from the Log In link (top right) on the wiki landing page: http://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/GI/Home http://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/GI/Home

Andrew Secretary, ID Pro DG

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On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 8:38 AM, Giles Watkins mailto:Giles@pridium.com> wrote:

Hi Ian

I’m happy to help drive this as I am sure it is a necessary and worthwhile venture.

Areas I think I could be of particular help are:

- Membership models

- Services

I see the two as being somewhat linked – as I suspect members will pay based on the nature of the services they receive.

If I can be so bold, could we possibly make the first item ‘revenue models’ rather than just membership? I suspect there are various ways of getting paid, dependent on the services we would look for the organisation to provide.

Giles

Giles Watkins

CEO

Pridium

UK: +44 (0) 203 290 4007 tel:%2B44%20%280%29%C2%A0203%20290%204007 | US: +1 646 808 3003 tel:%2B1%C2%A0646%20808%203003

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All -

There a few areas that we need to small self-lead project teams to start digging into:

* Membership models (including fee structures)

* Governance and organization structure (including how are members represented in organizational leadership)

* Services (prioritizing which member services the organization rolls out first with an eye on a minimally viable organization in March 2017)

* Codes of Conduct/Practice (for both members, the online forum, and the larger Code of Practice)

* Taxonomy of the Body of Knowledge (beginning the work to name the buckets into which we will pour content)

This is your time to get involved. My hope is that you pick one of these areas and help move the organization forward. We are also looking for people willing to lead these project teams.

Also, let's all be realistic about our time. We are all very busy and we are heading into a time of the year where we should be spending more time with our families and loved ones. So with that said, be realistic about how much time you have to devote to ID Pro. I know that all of these project areas are interesting and we all want to hear the results of the work in each area, but it is not realistic to think each of us can participate in each area. I'd rather hear that you can spend a few meaningful hours working on a single project over hearing that you spread the same amount of time across multiple groups.

Lastly, if you think there are areas that we absolutely _must_ tackle in the next six weeks, please bring them forward.

Thanks,

i

--

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Senior Director, Identity

+1 202 255 3166 tel:%2B1%20202%20255%203166

@iglazer https://twitter.com/iglazer

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Thanks Andrew! So I just started on the wiki for the subgroup (https://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=854923...) and added the name of those in it (as far as I am informed). I also added a quick comment to that page with a short summary on what was discussed in the meetings so far on this point. Feel free to add missing points May I ask the participants of the subgroup to add their (faked) mailadresses and timezones, so we can quickly agree on a Schedule for our calls? @Megan/Shannon: what would be the next steps to get the dial-in details? @all: I might not be available for the call today (sorry wednesday 18:00 (my time) is one of the points in time I am really hard to manage...) Thx, Thorsten On 15.11.2016 16:05, Andrew Hughes wrote:

I'd like to be in a monitoring and shepherd role - to help keep the group focused on scope and timeline. Happy for you to lead the group.

On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 7:03 AM Thorsten H. Niebuhr [WedaCon GmbH] mailto:tniebuhr@wedacon.net> wrote:

I can do the Taxonomy Stuff Leadership, if that is ok for that team (but am also fine if Andrew would like to do that, as he already provided valuable input from 2016 IIW)

Thorsten

On 15.11.2016 15:52, Ian Glazer wrote:

...

First, thanks to everyone who has stepped up to help in our next phase of work.

Second, here's the groups as they stand so far. A few people have indicated they are willing to lead their project teams. I will ask the leaders to coordinate with Shannon and Megan to get dial-in information for their meetings and schedule them as they and their groups see fit. Also, we currently in need of a leader for Taxonomy.

With that, here are the project groups: * * *Membership:* * Patrick Essien * Giles Watkins (offered to lead)

*Code of Conduct/Practice:* * Scott Shorter (offered to lead) * Steve Hutchinson

*Taxonomy:* * Stu Lincoln * George Dobbs * Thorsten Niebuhr * Andrew Hughes * Catherine Schulten

Regarding the remaining 2 groups - Governance and Services - I am working on a leader for Services but would love some people to help here. As for Governance, the DG's leadership plus the special committee (Colin, Ken, etc) are going to work on this.

Project leaders - please reach out to Shannon and Megan to get conference call info. Set a schedule with your group as you see fit. Feel free to recruit new members as well.

Thanks again everyone and we'll talk tomorrow.

i

On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 12:35 PM, Andrew Hughes mailto:andrewhughes3000@gmail.com> wrote:

Thanks to those of you who have raised your hand so far

A couple things: - yes, Kantara will provide conference bridge and screen sharing tools - we'll also put the subgroup meeting times on the Kantara calendar - Kantara also uses the Confluence wiki if you want a wiki space - We have to firm up timelines for the sub-groups reporting back to the main DG but please anticipate that we'll need firm-ish drafts in December - this is partly because we know there will be some discussion, alignment and packaging work that will have to happen in January.

I'll collect up names, meeting times etc as the groups form to make it easier to find where to lend a hand.

If you are intending to contribute on a wiki, please start the process to get an account provisioned. The wiki spaces are read-only for non-authenticated users. - Start this from the Log In link (top right) on the wiki landing page: http://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/GI/Home

Andrew Secretary, ID Pro DG

*Andrew Hughes *CISM CISSP Independent Consultant *In Turn Information Management Consulting*

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On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 8:38 AM, Giles Watkins mailto:Giles@pridium.com> wrote:

Hi Ian

I’m happy to help drive this as I am sure it is a necessary and worthwhile venture.

Areas I think I could be of particular help are:

- Membership models

- Services

I see the two as being somewhat linked – as I suspect members will pay based on the nature of the services they receive.

If I can be so bold, could we possibly make the first item ‘revenue models’ rather than just membership? I suspect there are various ways of getting paid, dependent on the services we would look for the organisation to provide.

Giles

Giles Watkins

CEO

Pridium

UK: +44 (0) 203 290 4007 tel:%2B44%20%280%29%C2%A0203%20290%204007 | US: +1 646 808 3003 tel:%2B1%C2%A0646%20808%203003

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All -

There a few areas that we need to small self-lead project teams to start digging into:

* Membership models (including fee structures)

* Governance and organization structure (including how are members represented in organizational leadership)

* Services (prioritizing which member services the organization rolls out first with an eye on a minimally viable organization in March 2017)

* Codes of Conduct/Practice (for both members, the online forum, and the larger Code of Practice)

* Taxonomy of the Body of Knowledge (beginning the work to name the buckets into which we will pour content)

This is your time to get involved. My hope is that you pick one of these areas and help move the organization forward. We are also looking for people willing to lead these project teams.

Also, let's all be realistic about our time. We are all very busy and we are heading into a time of the year where we should be spending more time with our families and loved ones. So with that said, be realistic about how much time you have to devote to ID Pro. I know that all of these project areas are interesting and we all want to hear the results of the work in each area, but it is not realistic to think each of us can participate in each area. I'd rather hear that you can spend a few meaningful hours working on a single project over hearing that you spread the same amount of time across multiple groups.

Lastly, if you think there are areas that we absolutely _must_ tackle in the next six weeks, please bring them forward.

Thanks,

i

--

Ian Glazer

Senior Director, Identity

+1 202 255 3166 tel:%2B1%20202%20255%203166

@iglazer https://twitter.com/iglazer

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Hello Thorsten, Thank you for scheduling the first BoK meeting! Very exciting. Please use the dial in information below for the call. I’m looking forward to it! All the best, Megan https://panel.turbobridge.com/webcall/ (use your computer to connect directly to the call) North America Toll: +1 (805) 309-2350tel:%2B1%20%28805%29%20309-2350 Alternate Toll: +1 (714) 551-9842tel:%2B1%20%28714%29%20551-9842 International Toll: http://www.turbobridge.com/international.htmlhttps://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.google.com_url-3Fq-3Dhttp-253A-252F-252Fwww.turbobridge.com-252Finternational.html-26sa-3DD-26ust-3D1459860779017000-26usg-3DAFQjCNEHJlnFb-5FhrF8WshzJlLf6n-2DgRH0w&d=DQMFAg&c=BNNF-YNv0CLLslhP2Bcx5Q&r=mE99SAjRYP0yt9HgTRYZXt-HLttH4ue3ndoNc57eKFA&m=GOOcjaztGa0O8UhTPmj763WvR_GpFQ4mwUzAyj9bi9E&s=1RpDXO-ddjL43KRxb9_CH4FjtzEctKKMu0jRmHYkthY&e= Conference ID: 402-2737 From: dg-idpro-bounces@kantarainitiative.org [mailto:dg-idpro-bounces@kantarainitiative.org] On Behalf Of Thorsten H. Niebuhr [WedaCon GmbH] Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2016 6:29 AM To: DG-IDPro@kantarainitiative.org; megan@kantarainitiative.org; Shannon Taylor Kantara Subject: Re: [DG-IDPro] Call for participation: Project teams forming now Thanks Andrew! So I just started on the wiki for the subgroup (https://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=854923...) and added the name of those in it (as far as I am informed). I also added a quick comment to that page with a short summary on what was discussed in the meetings so far on this point. Feel free to add missing points May I ask the participants of the subgroup to add their (faked) mailadresses and timezones, so we can quickly agree on a Schedule for our calls? @Megan/Shannon: what would be the next steps to get the dial-in details? @all: I might not be available for the call today (sorry wednesday 18:00 (my time) is one of the points in time I am really hard to manage...) Thx, Thorsten On 15.11.2016 16:05, Andrew Hughes wrote: I'd like to be in a monitoring and shepherd role - to help keep the group focused on scope and timeline. Happy for you to lead the group. On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 7:03 AM Thorsten H. Niebuhr [WedaCon GmbH] mailto:tniebuhr@wedacon.net> wrote: I can do the Taxonomy Stuff Leadership, if that is ok for that team (but am also fine if Andrew would like to do that, as he already provided valuable input from 2016 IIW) Thorsten On 15.11.2016 15:52, Ian Glazer wrote: First, thanks to everyone who has stepped up to help in our next phase of work. Second, here's the groups as they stand so far. A few people have indicated they are willing to lead their project teams. I will ask the leaders to coordinate with Shannon and Megan to get dial-in information for their meetings and schedule them as they and their groups see fit. Also, we currently in need of a leader for Taxonomy. With that, here are the project groups: Membership: * Patrick Essien * Giles Watkins (offered to lead) Code of Conduct/Practice: * Scott Shorter (offered to lead) * Steve Hutchinson Taxonomy: * Stu Lincoln * George Dobbs * Thorsten Niebuhr * Andrew Hughes * Catherine Schulten Regarding the remaining 2 groups - Governance and Services - I am working on a leader for Services but would love some people to help here. As for Governance, the DG's leadership plus the special committee (Colin, Ken, etc) are going to work on this. Project leaders - please reach out to Shannon and Megan to get conference call info. Set a schedule with your group as you see fit. Feel free to recruit new members as well. Thanks again everyone and we'll talk tomorrow. i On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 12:35 PM, Andrew Hughes mailto:andrewhughes3000@gmail.com> wrote: Thanks to those of you who have raised your hand so far A couple things: - yes, Kantara will provide conference bridge and screen sharing tools - we'll also put the subgroup meeting times on the Kantara calendar - Kantara also uses the Confluence wiki if you want a wiki space - We have to firm up timelines for the sub-groups reporting back to the main DG but please anticipate that we'll need firm-ish drafts in December - this is partly because we know there will be some discussion, alignment and packaging work that will have to happen in January. I'll collect up names, meeting times etc as the groups form to make it easier to find where to lend a hand. If you are intending to contribute on a wiki, please start the process to get an account provisioned. The wiki spaces are read-only for non-authenticated users. - Start this from the Log In link (top right) on the wiki landing page: http://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/GI/Home Andrew Secretary, ID Pro DG Andrew Hughes CISM CISSP Independent Consultant In Turn Information Management Consulting o +1 650.209.7542tel:%2B1%20650.209.7542 m +1 250.888.9474tel:%2B1%20250.888.9474 1249 Palmer Road, Victoria, BC V8P 2H8 AndrewHughes3000@gmail.commailto:AndrewHughes3000@gmail.com ca.linkedin.com/pub/andrew-hughes/a/58/682/http://ca.linkedin.com/pub/andrew-hughes/a/58/682/ Identity Management | IT Governance | Information Security On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 8:38 AM, Giles Watkins mailto:Giles@pridium.com> wrote: Hi Ian I’m happy to help drive this as I am sure it is a necessary and worthwhile venture. Areas I think I could be of particular help are: - Membership models - Services I see the two as being somewhat linked – as I suspect members will pay based on the nature of the services they receive. If I can be so bold, could we possibly make the first item ‘revenue models’ rather than just membership? I suspect there are various ways of getting paid, dependent on the services we would look for the organisation to provide. Giles Giles Watkins CEO Pridium UK: +44 (0) 203 290 4007tel:%2B44%20%280%29%C2%A0203%20290%204007 | US: +1 646 808 3003tel:%2B1%C2%A0646%20808%203003 Skype: gileswatkins Email: Giles@pridium.commailto:Giles@pridium.com This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review; use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. 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From: mailto:dg-idpro-bounces@kantarainitiative.org> on behalf of Ian Glazer mailto:iglazer@salesforce.com> Date: Thursday, 10 November 2016 at 15:02 To: "DG-IDPro@kantarainitiative.orgmailto:DG-IDPro@kantarainitiative.org" mailto:DG-IDPro@kantarainitiative.org> Subject: [DG-IDPro] Call for participation: Project teams forming now All - There a few areas that we need to small self-lead project teams to start digging into: * Membership models (including fee structures) * Governance and organization structure (including how are members represented in organizational leadership) * Services (prioritizing which member services the organization rolls out first with an eye on a minimally viable organization in March 2017) * Codes of Conduct/Practice (for both members, the online forum, and the larger Code of Practice) * Taxonomy of the Body of Knowledge (beginning the work to name the buckets into which we will pour content) This is your time to get involved. My hope is that you pick one of these areas and help move the organization forward. We are also looking for people willing to lead these project teams. Also, let's all be realistic about our time. We are all very busy and we are heading into a time of the year where we should be spending more time with our families and loved ones. So with that said, be realistic about how much time you have to devote to ID Pro. I know that all of these project areas are interesting and we all want to hear the results of the work in each area, but it is not realistic to think each of us can participate in each area. I'd rather hear that you can spend a few meaningful hours working on a single project over hearing that you spread the same amount of time across multiple groups. Lastly, if you think there are areas that we absolutely must tackle in the next six weeks, please bring them forward. Thanks, i -- Ian Glazer Senior Director, Identity +1 202 255 3166tel:%2B1%20202%20255%203166 @iglazerhttps://twitter.com/iglazer _______________________________________________ DG-IDPro mailing list DG-IDPro@kantarainitiative.orgmailto:DG-IDPro@kantarainitiative.org http://kantarainitiative.org/mailman/listinfo/dg-idpro -- Ian Glazer Senior Director, Identity +1 202 255 3166tel:%2B1%20202%20255%203166 @iglazerhttps://twitter.com/iglazer _______________________________________________ DG-IDPro mailing list DG-IDPro@kantarainitiative.orgmailto:DG-IDPro@kantarainitiative.org http://kantarainitiative.org/mailman/listinfo/dg-idpro -- Andrew Hughes CISM CISSP Independent Consultant In Turn Information Management Consulting o +1 650.209.7542 m +1 250.888.9474 1249 Palmer Road, Victoria, BC V8P 2H8 AndrewHughes3000@gmail.commailto:AndrewHughes3000@gmail.com ca.linkedin.com/pub/andrew-hughes/a/58/682/ Identity Management | IT Governance | Information Security

Just a quick update... at Giles' suggestion we are going to merge Membership and Services into one project. Andi Hindle has asked to join this newly merged project team. Thanks everyone! On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 9:52 AM, Ian Glazer wrote:

First, thanks to everyone who has stepped up to help in our next phase of work.

Second, here's the groups as they stand so far. A few people have indicated they are willing to lead their project teams. I will ask the leaders to coordinate with Shannon and Megan to get dial-in information for their meetings and schedule them as they and their groups see fit. Also, we currently in need of a leader for Taxonomy.

With that, here are the project groups:

*Membership:* * Patrick Essien * Giles Watkins (offered to lead)

*Code of Conduct/Practice:* * Scott Shorter (offered to lead) * Steve Hutchinson

*Taxonomy:* * Stu Lincoln * George Dobbs * Thorsten Niebuhr * Andrew Hughes * Catherine Schulten

Regarding the remaining 2 groups - Governance and Services - I am working on a leader for Services but would love some people to help here. As for Governance, the DG's leadership plus the special committee (Colin, Ken, etc) are going to work on this.

Project leaders - please reach out to Shannon and Megan to get conference call info. Set a schedule with your group as you see fit. Feel free to recruit new members as well.

Thanks again everyone and we'll talk tomorrow.

i

On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 12:35 PM, Andrew Hughes < andrewhughes3000@gmail.com> wrote:

...

Thanks to those of you who have raised your hand so far

A couple things: - yes, Kantara will provide conference bridge and screen sharing tools - we'll also put the subgroup meeting times on the Kantara calendar - Kantara also uses the Confluence wiki if you want a wiki space - We have to firm up timelines for the sub-groups reporting back to the main DG but please anticipate that we'll need firm-ish drafts in December - this is partly because we know there will be some discussion, alignment and packaging work that will have to happen in January.

I'll collect up names, meeting times etc as the groups form to make it easier to find where to lend a hand.

If you are intending to contribute on a wiki, please start the process to get an account provisioned. The wiki spaces are read-only for non-authenticated users. - Start this from the Log In link (top right) on the wiki landing page: http://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/GI/Home

Andrew Secretary, ID Pro DG

*Andrew Hughes *CISM CISSP Independent Consultant *In Turn Information Management Consulting*

o +1 650.209.7542 m +1 250.888.9474 1249 Palmer Road, Victoria, BC V8P 2H8 AndrewHughes3000@gmail.com ca.linkedin.com/pub/andrew-hughes/a/58/682/ *Identity Management | IT Governance | Information Security *

On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 8:38 AM, Giles Watkins wrote:

...

Hi Ian

I’m happy to help drive this as I am sure it is a necessary and worthwhile venture.

Areas I think I could be of particular help are:

- Membership models

- Services

I see the two as being somewhat linked – as I suspect members will pay based on the nature of the services they receive.

If I can be so bold, could we possibly make the first item ‘revenue models’ rather than just membership? I suspect there are various ways of getting paid, dependent on the services we would look for the organisation to provide.

Giles

Giles Watkins

CEO

Pridium

UK: +44 (0) 203 290 4007 | US: +1 646 808 3003

Skype: gileswatkins

Email: Giles@pridium.com

This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review; use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail, delete and then destroy all copies of the original message.

*From: * on behalf of Ian Glazer *Date: *Thursday, 10 November 2016 at 15:02 *To: *"DG-IDPro@kantarainitiative.org" *Subject: *[DG-IDPro] Call for participation: Project teams forming now

All -

There a few areas that we need to small self-lead project teams to start digging into:

* Membership models (including fee structures)

* Governance and organization structure (including how are members represented in organizational leadership)

* Services (prioritizing which member services the organization rolls out first with an eye on a minimally viable organization in March 2017)

* Codes of Conduct/Practice (for both members, the online forum, and the larger Code of Practice)

* Taxonomy of the Body of Knowledge (beginning the work to name the buckets into which we will pour content)

This is your time to get involved. My hope is that you pick one of these areas and help move the organization forward. We are also looking for people willing to lead these project teams.

Also, let's all be realistic about our time. We are all very busy and we are heading into a time of the year where we should be spending more time with our families and loved ones. So with that said, be realistic about how much time you have to devote to ID Pro. I know that all of these project areas are interesting and we all want to hear the results of the work in each area, but it is not realistic to think each of us can participate in each area. I'd rather hear that you can spend a few meaningful hours working on a single project over hearing that you spread the same amount of time across multiple groups.

Lastly, if you think there are areas that we absolutely *must* tackle in the next six weeks, please bring them forward.

Thanks,

i

--

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Senior Director, Identity

+1 202 255 3166

@iglazer https://twitter.com/iglazer

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