Of course this is last minute but I think this is enough to put us on their map and set up our relevance generally Will send off if no objections comments close today. IDmachines 4 Lamson Place Cambridge, MA 02139-2612 +1 617.201.4809 @idmachines https://idmachines.com Please note our new address. Email, phones, other contacts remain the same. Disclaimer The information contained in this communication from the sender is confidential. It is intended solely for use by the recipient and others authorized to receive it. If you are not the recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or taking action in relation of the contents of this information is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this email in error, please delete it and advise the sender.
Nice Job Sal, I noticed that there is little to no awareness of notice standards, that we can move beyond clear and simple language, addressing the dark patterns. Perhaps we can work on this? Refer to 29184 and 27560 and the DPV, which can be used on or for records of processing, And that the digital transparency indicators assess these elements privacy elements in security. What do you think? -
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Yes RoPA!
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On 3 Nov 2023, at 15:16, Salvatore D'Agostino
wrote: Of course this is last minute but I think this is enough to put us on their map and set up our relevance generally
Will send off if no objections comments close today.
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. Perhaps we should refer to this as a Digital Privacy Record of Transparent Processing Activity (RoTPA) ?
On 3 Nov 2023, at 18:30, Salvatore D'Agostino
On 3 Nov 2023, at 15:16, Salvatore D'Agostino
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Will send off if no objections comments close today.
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“ROT - Pa” doesn’t exactly roll off the tongue. And starting the acronym with “ROT” doesn’t present positive connotations. Grammatically, it’s also is backward and therefore unintuitive — like a “privacy impact assessment” is backward. The title actually means that it’s an assessment of the impact that privacy has, which is the exact opposite of what it is and ought to be — an assessment of the impact upon privacy that something might have. How about Processing Activity Record of Transparency — PART— or Privacy Processing Activity Record of Transparency — PPART. my 2c On Nov 5, 2023, at 5:27 AM, Mark Lizar wrote: . Perhaps we should refer to this as a Digital Privacy Record of Transparent Processing Activity (RoTPA) ?
On 3 Nov 2023, at 18:30, Salvatore D'Agostino
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Cc: wg-ancr@kantarainitiative.org Subject: Re: [WG-ANCR] csf comments Nice Job Sal,
I noticed that there is little to no awareness of notice standards, that we can move beyond clear and simple language, addressing the dark patterns. Perhaps we can work on this? Refer to 29184 and 27560 and the DPV, which can be used on or for records of processing, And that the digital transparency indicators assess these elements privacy elements in security.
What do you think? -
On 3 Nov 2023, at 15:16, Salvatore D'Agostino
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Will send off if no objections comments close today.
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So for me transparency provides a means of measuring the RoPA, transparency as a requirement of a RoPA, whereas today they exists without a record for the performance.
Given the term RoPA has legal heft why would be modify it, imo we should leverage, define, enhance the requirement.
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On 3 Nov 2023, at 15:16, Salvatore D'Agostino
mailto:sal@idmachines.com > wrote: Of course this is last minute but I think this is enough to put us on their map and set up our relevance generally
Will send off if no objections comments close today.
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Agree - we should not Modify the legal term and expand,
And, Interestingly in the Conv 108+ they also have article 88 - which is for logging records, and we want mirrored record logs (but not sure where that actually fits in the architecture. As logging does not appear in GDPR, is seems that logging for international data and control transfers, for regulators, (
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On 5 Nov 2023, at 10:32, Salvatore D'Agostino
On 3 Nov 2023, at 15:16, Salvatore D'Agostino
mailto:sal@idmachines.com> wrote: Of course this is last minute but I think this is enough to put us on their map and set up our relevance generally
Will send off if no objections comments close today.
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Or…
RoPA Transparency (RoPAT) which is the result of the assessment.
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On 3 Nov 2023, at 15:16, Salvatore D'Agostino
mailto:sal@idmachines.com > wrote: Of course this is last minute but I think this is enough to put us on their map and set up our relevance generally
Will send off if no objections comments close today.
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Interesting idea,
Thats a different TPI - used when there already is a RoPA - although in general - RoPA -Transparency is a good topic.
On 5 Nov 2023, at 12:16, Salvatore D'Agostino
On 3 Nov 2023, at 15:16, Salvatore D'Agostino
mailto:sal@idmachines.com> wrote: Of course this is last minute but I think this is enough to put us on their map and set up our relevance generally
Will send off if no objections comments close today.
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On another note, I a look for what to call the profiles, as I think the vectors of governance, levels of assurance, are accompanies by digital privacy category/security profile which inlcude
Essentially for lack of a better word I refer to these as profiles, but what I am getting at is that human centric privacy is about control over the scope of disclosure, not data protection. It’s really about consented surveillance scope, and the ore assurances of that scope, the more trusted the environment is - to share data. Knowing that the data can not be disclosed without notification is critical.
Here are the scope/profiles,
1. Hyperlocal - e.g. sexual consent -
2. Child
3. Youth
4. Community
5. Regional
6 National
7. International
Does anyone have a better name for these ? Digital Privacy Scope as a Security Profile ?
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On 5 Nov 2023, at 14:11, Mark Lizar wrote:
Interesting idea,
Thats a different TPI - used when there already is a RoPA - although in general - RoPA -Transparency is a good topic.
On 5 Nov 2023, at 12:16, Salvatore D'Agostino
On 3 Nov 2023, at 15:16, Salvatore D'Agostino
mailto:sal@idmachines.com> wrote: Of course this is last minute but I think this is enough to put us on their map and set up our relevance generally
Will send off if no objections comments close today.
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