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Implementor’s report for workgroup vote
by John Wunderlich 11 Dec '23

11 Dec '23

Please find attached the Early Implementors Draft for workgroup vote: Next steps: 1 Workgroup Votes: • Vote Approve • Vote Approve with suggestions (include specific suggestions for final editing) • Vote Not Approve 2. Final Editing by leadership team (assuming majority of votes cast are Approve or Approve with suggestions) 3. Submit for publication On the agenda for tomorrow: 1. Developing a cadence and calendar for asynchronous development of requirement 2. Review of voting process Have a better than expected day, John Wunderlich LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/privacycdn/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/PrivacyCDN -- This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. If you are not the intended recipient you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited.

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Privacy Advocates Raise Concerns with New Mobile Driver’s Licenses — Internet & Social Media Law Blog — October 23, 2023
by John Wunderlich 24 Oct '23

24 Oct '23

FYI https://www.internetandtechnologylaw.com/privacy-concerns-mobile-drivers-li… Sincerely, John Wunderlich BA, MBA, CISA, CIPP/C, CIPM, FIP LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/privacycdn/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/PrivacyCDN -- This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. If you are not the intended recipient you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited.

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Re: Spreadsheet shared with you: "PEMC Requirements Coverage"
by Tom Jones 21 Oct '23

21 Oct '23

It's interesting. But not practical. We need wallets to be accountable. Free and accountable does not compute. thx ..Tom (mobile) On Sat, Oct 21, 2023, 6:28 PM Salvatore D'Agostino <sal(a)idmachines.com> wrote: > Thanks Adrian, really like #5 > > IDmachines > 4 Lamson Place > Cambridge, MA 02139-2612 > +1 617.201.4809 > https://IDmachines.com > ------------------------------ > *From:* Adrian Gropper <agropper(a)gmail.com> > *Sent:* Saturday, October 21, 2023 4:21 PM > *To:* John Wunderlich <john(a)wunderlich.ca> > *Cc:* aglasscock(a)nascio.org <aglasscock(a)nascio.org>; > andrewhughes3000(a)gmail.com <andrewhughes3000(a)gmail.com>; > athomabaker(a)apple.com <athomabaker(a)apple.com>; chaudhury(a)google.com < > chaudhury(a)google.com>; gail.hodges(a)oidf.org <gail.hodges(a)oidf.org>; > hannah.sutor(a)gmail.com <hannah.sutor(a)gmail.com>; > hlf(a)sphericalcowconsulting.com <hlf(a)sphericalcowconsulting.com>; > jazzmine.dowtin(a)idemia-nss.com <jazzmine.dowtin(a)idemia-nss.com>; > jimpasquale(a)gmail.com <jimpasquale(a)gmail.com>; > lisa.levasseur(a)internetsafetylabs.org < > lisa.levasseur(a)internetsafetylabs.org>; ljordaan(a)aamva.org < > ljordaan(a)aamva.org>; maria.vachino(a)jhuapl.edu <maria.vachino(a)jhuapl.edu>; > maronson(a)notary.org <maronson(a)notary.org>; mcristinatl(a)outlook.es < > mcristinatl(a)outlook.es>; noreen.whysel(a)me2ba.org <noreen.whysel(a)me2ba.org>; > peter.davis(a)airsidemobile.com <peter.davis(a)airsidemobile.com>; Salvatore > D'Agostino <sal(a)idmachines.com>; thomasclinganjones(a)gmail.com < > thomasclinganjones(a)gmail.com>; tim(a)entrustient.com <tim(a)entrustient.com>; > vkrishnaraj(a)google.com <vkrishnaraj(a)google.com>; williams.2560(a)gmail.com < > williams.2560(a)gmail.com> > *Subject:* Re: Spreadsheet shared with you: "PEMC Requirements Coverage" > > It's an interesting list but I'm unclear about the scope of the charter > that supports it. Is there one? > > From where I stand, I would like to see some things clearly stated: > > 1 - The Holder SHOULD be a semi-autonomous and delegatable agent of the > subject. This would help to address the power asymmetry between Issuers and > Verifiers vs. subjects. > > 2 - Verifiers MUST scope and sign their verification requests. Scope MUST > include a purpose. The signature MUST be sufficient to keep the verifier > accountable if they breach their stated purpose of the request. > > 3 - The process of unwitnessed online verification must be clear. For > example, under what use-cases is the subject expected to use a user-agent > (mobile or hosted) that is "certified" or otherwise controlled by some > government or federated private entity. A *single-purpose* wallet > controlled by an Issuer or Verifier and not used for interaction outside of > that specific scope could, of course, be certified by either the Issuer or > Verifier. > > 4 - Protocols for presentation to the Verifier must consider the cost and > inconvenience of doing request verifications, making authorization > decisions, and keeping logs for Verifier accountability. Verifiers SHOULD > post a payment or deposit in order to prevent spam and offset these costs > borne by the subject. We cannot assume that subjects have a choice or that > verifiers always compete fairly for subject engagement. > > 5 - The essential components, including wallets, for use of > government-issued credentials MUST be free and accessible to all. We expect > that for paper credentials, don't we? > > Adrian > > On Mon, Oct 16, 2023 at 1:01 PM John Wunderlich (via Google Sheets) < > drive-shares-dm-noreply(a)google.com> wrote: > >> John Wunderlich shared a spreadsheet >> [image: Unknown profile photo] >> John Wunderlich (john(a)wunderlich.ca) has invited you to *edit* the >> following spreadsheet: >> As a participant in the PEMC workgroup, this link provides you editor >> access to the Google Sheet that we are using to gather requirements. 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Update on PEMC work
by John Wunderlich 20 Oct '23

20 Oct '23

Hello; Christopher and I would like to provide an update on the PEMC work. 1. Christopher, Hannah, and I are working through the Implementor’s Guidance document and anticipate sharing a vote-ready version next week. This has been pushed back because of a medical issue that I experienced, but am working back from. Some critical points to remember when we circulate the draft for workgroup approval: a. I generally take the view that this kind of group work is ready to move forward when everyone is equally unhappy with the results (that’s one way to look at the results of consensus and compromise) b. This is not a normative report. It is preliminary guidance that roughly represents a consensus view of the group. c. I view this as V1 of the report and anticipate it will be updated after completing the first draft recommendations. 2. We are moving to a bi-weekly cadence for the PEMC calls to facilitate offline and asynchronous work. This is because the weekly meetings appear (to me) to have become the place where we discuss but do not quickly resolve the text that we are creating. We have created the Google Sheet shared with you to brainstorm and create the requirements YOU think should be included in the recommendations. The biweekly meetings will focus on issues that can not be resolved asynchronously or on votes on recommendations. More on the form and format of the published recommendations will be forthcoming once the workgroup feels it is closing in on a reasonably complete set of V1 recommendations. Next steps A: Workgroup vote on the Implementors report by email once. We anticipate getting the candidate draft out next week. B: Populate the requirements on Google Sheets. Getting your input as soon as possible is critical. I believe that the recommendations we are working on will be both unique and uniquely useful to stakeholders that want to be able to provide real assurances about their protection of personal data. This is your homework, and it is a brainstorming exercise, so the more, the better. Next Zoom Call: Wednesday, Nov. 1 at 1:00 PM Eastern. Sincerely, John Wunderlich BA, MBA, CISA, CIPP/C, CIPM, FIP LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/privacycdn/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/PrivacyCDN -- This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. If you are not the intended recipient you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited.

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FW: Register Now! NIST Personal Identity Verification Webinar
by Salvatore D'Agostino 19 Oct '23

19 Oct '23

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FYI from Papers, Please!
by John Wunderlich 17 Oct '23

17 Oct '23

Headline: The TSA wants to put a government tracking app on your smartphone https://papersplease.org/wp/2023/10/16/the-tsa-wants-to-put-a-government-tr… Sincerely, John Wunderlich BA, MBA, CISA, CIPP/C, CIPM, FIP LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/privacycdn/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/PrivacyCDN -- This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. If you are not the intended recipient you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited.

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Google Sheets for Requirments gathering
by John Wunderlich 16 Oct '23

16 Oct '23

Hi; Here is a commenter link to the Google Sheet called “PEMC Requirements Coverage”. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1yJ1B9fAXMsj1IGiI2tsAihxXvXhj7VUM0xj… I’ll go through the participant page to add PEMC participants as editors, assuming I have the emails. Please advise if the email you want to use for editing and commenting is different than the one that is associated with you on the PEMC participants list, found here: https://kantara.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/PEMCP/pages/2097688/Participant+r… Sincerely, John Wunderlich BA, MBA, CISA, CIPP/C, CIPM, FIP LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/privacycdn/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/PrivacyCDN -- This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. If you are not the intended recipient you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited.

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