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Trusted CI Blog: Now Open - 2024 NSF Cybersecurity Summit Call for Participation
by Noreen Whysel 29 May '24

29 May '24

Call for participation: https://blog.trustedci.org/2024/05/now-open-2024-nsf-cybersecurity-summit.h… Interesting topic list. Noreen

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Claim 169
by Jorge Flores 28 May '24

28 May '24

Thoughts on this biometric authentication spec from MOSIP? https://docs.mosip.io/1.2.0/overview/standards-and-specifications/169-qr-co…

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RIUP WG meeting next Tuesday, May 28, 2024 at 1 PM EDT (In June, we will be back to our 1st and 3rd Tuesday meeting schedule)
by jim kragh 28 May '24

28 May '24

https://us06web.zoom.us/j/87499194761?pwd=cmhDTHBXV2VTbFBMZzllMlZVbnFoZz09 Meeting ID: 874 9919 4761 *Passcode: 837815* Dial by your location +1 346 248 7799 US (Houston) +1 646 558 8656 US (New York) +1 669 900 9128 US (San Jose) +1 253 215 8782 US (Tacoma) +1 301 715 8592 US (Washington DC) +1 312 626 6799 US (Chicago) Meeting ID: 874 9919 4761 Passcode: 837815 In early April Tom sent out a heads up notice making sure our draft DII doc efforts were in the PEMC WG Consent activities. He specifically commented: "We have focused on the data that needs to flow from the Verifier to the User Device in order to ensure that the data displayed to the holder will be appropriate to the purpose specified and so that the holder can make an informed consent for themselves or for the subject that has delegated the authority to make a decision for that subject. It is expected that this data will flow from the verifier to the user's device so that the device can make the decision about the appropriate user agent (or wallet) to handle the request. It is up to the device and the user agent to form the UX for holder consent. Other arrangements of the device and agent are, of course, possible. Now that we have approved the final DII draft and delivered it to the LC, let's revisit the question Tom asked: Is there any particular action RIUP should take to help assure alignment? Last week there was an impromptu session to address this question with Tom, Noreen and Justin and we will do it again this coming Tuesday, May 28, 2024. Link to the working draft document: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1n7HobJ6QTsNld5rn1uuIiNw0A__L44ug/edit?u… and later Justin forwarded a link which Tom, Noreen and Justin (and maybe Jorge was part of that session, I was not) : here's the link: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1keHesvQHrCdbNPavI3imleBm4i9ymXM_/edit?u… Earlier today, Tom put forth an interesting question: Do we need to consider how digitalization can create problems for the underserved? Have a nice Memorial Day Holiday weekend with family and friends; remember the men and women in the armed services; those who have died for our freedom and families who have lost loved ones. God Bless America, Jim

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for underserved populations we need a simple reader in the field
by Tom Jones 20 May '24

20 May '24

I propose we consider the environment where the underserved can be helped. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1keHesvQHrCdbNPavI3imleBm4i9ymXM_/edit?u… ..tom

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cloudflare support cipher suites
by Tom Jones 20 May '24

20 May '24

https://developers.cloudflare.com/ssl/reference/cipher-suites/supported-cip…

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It is Getting More Difficult for the Elderly to Manage Healthcare
by Noreen Whysel 16 May '24

16 May '24

From UX thought leader Ha Phan on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/hpuxixd_my-mother-complains-that-it-is-getti… Noreen

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committee approved draft of Digital Inclusion doc
by Tom Jones 15 May '24

15 May '24

I have attached as a word doc since the google docs mess up the section numbers. If anyone has a change please make the change and send it back to me thanks for all your help. ..tom

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ATTENTION: Important out of cycle RIUP WG meeting scheduled for next Tuesday May 17, 2024, 1 PM EDT
by jim kragh 12 May '24

12 May '24

Hope all are having a good day! Last Tuesday at our RIUP WG meeting we devotend about 90 minutes doing a detailed review on most of the DII document; sections 4 and 5 were not done. As you know we are on a fast track, within our WG, in an attempt to approve the DII document next week so we can forward it to the Leadership Counsel this month. Please review the entire document, with a second read of sections 4 and 5. Comments and corrections can be made on line using the link below. You will receive a separate email notice regarding our meeting next Tuesday ....... If you have any questions, please advise, thanks. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1xmySOBFzYXEEB_LhabT6sqvR_6fqhCs_/edit?u… Be well and be safe, Jim

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CBP One - LA Times
by Jorge Flores 09 May '24

09 May '24

https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2024-05-09/migrants-trying-to-re…

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May 7, at 1 PM ET, RIUP WG will dive into finalizing DII document; if not done and approved, May 14, 1PM EDT is our next meeing
by jim kragh 06 May '24

06 May '24

*RIUP's 1st/3rd Tuesday Meeting Link:* https://us06web.zoom.us/j/87499194761?pwd=cmhDTHBXV2VTbFBMZzllMlZVbnFoZz09 Meeting ID: 874 9919 4761 *Passcode: 837815* Dial by your location +1 346 248 7799 US (Houston) +1 646 558 8656 US (New York) +1 669 900 9128 US (San Jose) +1 253 215 8782 US (Tacoma) +1 301 715 8592 US (Washington DC) +1 312 626 6799 US (Chicago) Meeting ID: 874 9919 4761 Passcode: 837815 I mention in my last message that both Tom and Noreen agreed that 'refugees should be included and Jorge likewise agreed, "yes", refugees / immigrants are part of the mix in the DII document and could be represented using a use-case. I too, agree, and think we need to make an attempt to quantify at least 2 questions with a use case in mind: 1) How could a refugee generate a beneficial value for a local economy, industry or 'a defined sector'? (community assessment) 2) What core services does an immigrant or refugee need to help them utilize their strengths or skills that would benefit a community? 3) How does a community understand defined culture inorder to assist refugees in accessing services or resources. Draft 7, *t **DIGITAL IDENTIFIER INCLUSION* https://docs.google.com/document/d/1JO3HQHSiPFHC-JNVKzW0bdiYlV9WlTp7/edit?u… *Please come prepared and ready to contribute so we can vote on this document by the End of May.* *Have a restful evening,* *Jim*

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a callenge for us and the DII
by Tom Jones 02 May '24

02 May '24

1. SIDI-HUB is looking for 3 use cases that will need to be addressed by any trust registry. 2. We have not included refugees in our list of personas - see below. Do we need one. 3. What should an inclusion test list look like? (How can a trust registry be evaluated?) 4. Are personas the right way to set up a screen method for (registry) inclusion? *Here is a refugee problem definition.* GSMA (2019). The Digital Lives of Refugees: How Displaced Populations Use Mobile Phones and What Gets in the Way. https://www.gsma.com/solutions-and-impact/connectivity-for-good/mobile-for-… *Here are our existing personas.* 2. Personas The following 4 personas were selected as representing the edges of the user space which includes two people that are fully functional in a digital world and two that are not. 1. Abbey, the soccer mom balancing a work life with a family at home. Abbey’s household consists of her, a spouse and one child with a smartphone and one that is too young to trust with a smartphone and is about to enter school for the first time. 2. Ichiro, the computer professional Ichiro works for a large multinational as a contractor at home. He has a laptop issued by the company and his personal phone that he also uses for business purposes. He wants to keep his business and personal access separate. His wife has dementia and cannot be relied on to handle her phone by herself. 3. Juan, the severely disabled adult dependent on a support system Juan’s caregiver has a phone that is assigned to Juan as it contains his medical history as well as a care plan that must be followed to assure his continued health. Juan’s phone travels with him whenever he needs to go to the hospital for treatment, which is frequent. The caregivers at all of these locations can access and update data for Juan on his smartphone. 4. Maya, the teenager who is alone on the streets Maya, a teenager with a malfunctioning kidney, left a home environment that was extremely hostile and lives on the streets where she has a constant struggle to stay safe on cold nights and deal with her continuing kidney disease. She depends on her smart phone for access to social services.

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interim report from UN includes equity and inclusion
by Tom Jones 30 Apr '24

30 Apr '24

I will try to get more from this for inclusion in the DII report, but I hope that some of you have the time to look into this yourselves. One question will be whether we formally decide to work within this framework. https://www.un.org/sustainabledevelopment/blog/2024/03/press-release-digita… ..tom

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EDPB
by Salvatore D'Agostino 19 Apr '24

19 Apr '24

https://www.edpb.europa.eu/news/news/2024/edpb-consent-or-pay-models-should- offer-real-choice_en EDPB opinion on Consent of Pay EDPB Chair Anu Talus said: "Online platforms should give users a real choice when employing 'consent or pay' models. The models we have today usually require individuals to either give away all their data or to pay. As a result most users consent to the processing in order to use a service, and they do not understand the full implications of their choices." IDmachines 4 Lamson Place Cambridge, MA 02139-2612 +1 617.201.4809 @idmachines https://idmachines.com <https://idmachines.com/> Please note our new address. Email, phones, other contacts remain the same. Disclaimer The information contained in this communication from the sender is confidential. It is intended solely for use by the recipient and others authorized to receive it. If you are not the recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or taking action in relation of the contents of this information is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this email in error, please delete it and advise the sender.

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mDL list that someone requested
by Tom Jones 17 Apr '24

17 Apr '24

- I forget who ask but here is what I know - 2 states support dtl https://tcwiki.azurewebsites.net/index.php?title=Mobile_Driver%27s_License thx ..Tom (mobile)

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KI BOD nano slide approved for submission to LC
by Tom Jones 16 Apr '24

16 Apr '24

this has all four slides - perhaps we only want to post slide 4 to our wiki?? ..tom

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slide from Monthly LC call today
by Salvatore D'Agostino 16 Apr '24

16 Apr '24

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Fwd: [KI-LC] Honoring Vittorio
by jim kragh 14 Apr '24

14 Apr '24

Good evening everyone! grant funding available, see links in text below. Kay Chopard, Kantara's Executive Director, is requesting that we let those involved in identity ecosystem workgroups and supporting technologies that grants are available thank to sponsors including Kantara...... please see Kay's message. Thanks, Jim ---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Kay Chopard <kay(a)kantarainitiative.org> Date: Fri, Apr 12, 2024 at 3:58 PM Subject: [KI-LC] Honoring Vittorio To: Kantara Board of Directors <directors(a)kantarainitiative.org>, Kantara Leadership Council <LC(a)kantarainitiative.org>, Peter Davis < equalspeterd(a)gmail.com>, Karyn Bright <karyn(a)kantarainitiative.org> Hi everyone, I received an email today from Ian Glazer, one of the founders of the Digital Identity Advancement Foundation (DIAF). They are announcing another program honoring Vittorio Bertocci. The goal of the award is to provide grants to people to attend and participate in global technical standards events. Please circulate the announcement and information on your social media posts, through your networks, among your groups, and within your organizations. Thank you for doing this and supporting the program The information he shared with me today: LinkedIn post: https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:7119797398243082240?up… Direct link: https://digitalidadvancement.org/awards-and-grants/vittorio/ Please let me know if you have questions or have other suggestions about disseminating this information. Karyn Bright will be sharing this on our social media as well. Thank you. Best regards, Kay *Kay Chopard | **Executive Director* *Twitter:* @KantaraNews *LinkedIn:* @KantaraInitiative _______________________________________________ A Community Group mailing list of KantaraInitiative.org LC mailing list -- lc(a)kantarainitiative.org To unsubscribe send an email to staff(a)kantarainitiative.org List archives -- https://mailman.kantarainitiative.org/hyperkitty/list/lc@kantarainitiative.… ______ Group wiki -- https://kantara.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/LC

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updated Digital Identifier Inclusion
by Tom Jones 07 Apr '24

07 Apr '24

This includes all of the feedback from Andrew Alec and Noreen as best as I could understand. I have included the document as well as a link to it on google docs Either can be used for feedback, but the google doc will be used on Tuesday to edit. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1JO3HQHSiPFHC-JNVKzW0bdiYlV9WlTp7/edit?u… ..tom

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RIUP WG meeting tomorrow Apr 2, at 1 PM
by jim kragh 01 Apr '24

01 Apr '24

*RIUP's 1st/3rd Tuesday Meeting Link:* https://us06web.zoom.us/j/87499194761?pwd=cmhDTHBXV2VTbFBMZzllMlZVbnFoZz09 Meeting ID: 874 9919 4761 *Passcode: 837815* Dial by your location +1 346 248 7799 US (Houston) +1 646 558 8656 US (New York) +1 669 900 9128 US (San Jose) +1 253 215 8782 US (Tacoma) +1 301 715 8592 US (Washington DC) +1 312 626 6799 US (Chicago) Meeting ID: 874 9919 4761 Passcode: 837815 Good evening, and hope all had a nice Easter holiday week-end with family and friends. Comments are still welcomed on the *Purpose Consent Query *document updated March 28, Version 3, by Tom who will lead the discussion. And if time permits, we will redirect out conversation to the sister document, Digital Identifier Inclusion:, which we most likely have to segment into blocks of data that directly related to comments received to best determine, as a WG, how such should be addressed or managed in a revised format. https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?tab=mm#search/ThomasClinganJones%40gmail.… ? compose=DmwnWtMqjRXHZgNdFmZnJFMGSvLWZFRZmlVnWqJmgwckkqxbTpfkRHfxDnVLfmtxnVbfhMNZMpqG&projector=1 Have a restful evening, Jim

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proposed update of document for tuesday agenda
by Tom Jones 28 Mar '24

28 Mar '24

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1n7HobJ6QTsNld5rn1uuIiNw0A__L44ug/edit?u… ..tom

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Re: Sad news from the Florida state legislature
by Justin Byrd 26 Mar '24

26 Mar '24

[Had this drafted] What comes to mind is integrating a reporting system within the wallet/etc itself. One might consider that an underserved population would need to report issues like work conditions. However, I'd assume the initial response would be that such a feature is out of scope. Warmly, -J --- Justin Byrd (He, Him) PARTNER / PROJECT-LEAD E: justin(a)machi-systems.com<mailto:justin@machi-systems.com> P: 570-820-2060 M: Book a call with me!<https://meetings.machi-systems.com/justin> Machi-Systems, LLC. Scranton Life Building 538 Biden St, Suite 528 Scranton, PA 18503 machi-systems.com<https://machi-systems.com/> | [Logo for the Machi-Systems, LLC. Black text set on transparent background reads, “Machi (Dash) Systems.” Stylized blue “m” at the beginning of the word machi] -------------------------------------------------------------------- Scope Agreement: We will consider this issue resolved when we are able to answer your query, or we will inform you if the issue will be out of scope. This message (including any attachments) may contain CONFIDENTIAL information intended for a specific individual and purpose, and is protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient, you should delete this message and are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution of this message, or the taking of any action based on it, is strictly prohibited. From: Jorge Flores <jorge(a)entidad.io> Date: Friday, March 15, 2024 at 5:11 PM To: wg-riup <wg-riup(a)kantarainitiative.org> Subject: [WG-RIUP] Sad news from the Florida state legislature https://www.newsfromthestates.com/article/florida-legislature-doesnt-care-h… https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/mar/08/florida-bill-extreme-heat-w… [A screenshot of a cellphone Description automatically generated] [signature_1066411671] Jorge Flores | Co-founder and CTO | Email: jorge(a)entidad.io | https://www.entidad.io<https://www.entidad.io/>

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Government funded low-cost mobile devices
by Jorge Flores 25 Mar '24

25 Mar '24

I wanted to share a couple references to examples of government fund low-cost mobile devices that are often issued out to the poor or migrants https://www.fcc.gov/general/lifeline-program-low-income-consumers https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/mobile/these-states-depend-obama-phone-most-n3… https://www.cnn.com/2022/06/05/us/border-migrants-cell-phones-cec/index.html [signature_1798251717] Jorge Flores | Co-founder and CTO | Email: jorge(a)entidad.io | https://www.entidad.io<https://www.entidad.io/>

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some evidence that social inclusion is gaining some traction
by Tom Jones 21 Mar '24

21 Mar '24

G7 committed to DPI for socio-economic transformation, OECD’s digital ID governance | Biometric Update <https://www.biometricupdate.com/202403/g7-committed-to-dpi-for-socio-econom…> https://www.biometricupdate.com/202403/g7-committed-to-dpi-for-socio-econom… ..tom

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updated purpose consent query
by Tom Jones 20 Mar '24

20 Mar '24

I have updated PCQ doc from yesterday's meeting and added the response name value pairs as requested. Noreen: Could you put this link into the mins? https://docs.google.com/document/d/1n7HobJ6QTsNld5rn1uuIiNw0A__L44ug/edit?u… Any additional suggestions are welcome - comments should be made directly in the doc. ..tom

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ISO liaison
by Salvatore D'Agostino 19 Mar '24

19 Mar '24

In speaking to Jim he asked that I forward the link for the ISO liaison. This allows review of the document for Kantara and WG contributions and comments to specific ISO WG and specification drafts. BoT - Liaison Sub Committee (PRIVATE) - Kantara Initiative (atlassian.net)<https://kantara.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/lsc/overview>

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