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Important: final doc review phase; your eyes and input are needed! RIUP WG meeting in 3 day; Dec 5 at 1 PM ET
by jim kragh 04 Dec '23

04 Dec '23

Please take time to review the linked *RIUP's 1st/3rd Tuesday Meeting Link:* https://us06web.zoom.us/j/87499194761?pwd=cmhDTHBXV2VTbFBMZzllMlZVbnFoZz09 Meeting ID: 874 9919 4761 *Passcode: 837815* All encompassing document: * No one in underserved populations left behind! * Dial by your location +1 346 248 7799 US (Houston) +1 646 558 8656 US (New York) +1 669 900 9128 US (San Jose) +1 253 215 8782 US (Tacoma) +1 301 715 8592 US (Washington DC) +1 312 626 6799 US (Chicago) Meeting ID: 874 9919 4761 Passcode: 837815 *Editor:* *Tom Jones* *Link to: Digital Identifier Inclusion* w*orking group draft document draft 6 November 26, 2023* https://docs.google.com/document/d/12Dwknikb3pk1QNYSXm9QbNkC8n6d4ZYM/edit We will also announce candidates and welcome other nonominoes for the RIUP chairs for 2024. More info coming in a reminder email, but for now please proof read the document. Have a nice evening and week-end, Jim

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Today’s meeting
by Justin Byrd 28 Nov '23

28 Nov '23

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The swiss are embracing accessibility
by Tom Jones 26 Nov '23

26 Nov '23

https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/politics/swiss-digital-id-scheme-could-begin-i… The app should also be accessible to people with disabilities without restriction. It's a start. thx ..Tom (mobile)

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The Canadian Trust framework is not inclusive
by Tom Jones 23 Nov '23

23 Nov '23

The following is one example of standards that are not inclusive that need input of the sort we are trying to produce in Kantara. It subjects human holders of digital wallets to Trust Criteria that may well have the result of preventing human beings from accessing their rights and privileges. This is why I would like to see an early report on Inclusivity. "Digital Identity Ecosystems and their associated Trust Registries use a Trust Framework (such as the PCTF) to define how Issuers, Verifiers, Holders, and Digital Wallets should or must operate to be considered trustworthy." https://diacc.ca/trust-framework-components/pctf-trust-registries/ I requested a change and got the following responses: The Trust Framework defines the “how”, which may or may not include an entry in a Trust Registry. Holders belong on that list because they can be in a position to compromise the trustworthiness of an ecosystem. Additionally, a person may be the holder of credentials, a business may be a holder of credentials, an IoT thing may hold credentials, and the wallet may hold (be the holder) of credentials for a person or a business. In this context, a Holder is more than just a person. It's a person's decision whether they want to use a digital credential or not. Much like a person can choose to pay for an item with cash or use their biometrics on their smartphone to tap payment. A person's rights or privileges are not determined by this nor is it being insinuated nor is it being enforced on citizens. At the end of the day, it's the individual's decision and choice, which Canadians have and will continue to do so, how they want to interact with the digital ecosystem. Something that is not so evident in the countries you mentioned. [Russia and China] As we can see from the following example of a first nations grandfather seeking to set up a bank account for his daughter; underserved populations are AT RISK from thinking like the above. This is a good example of why technologists should not be permitted to define standards that impact normal people. They just have no clue! A Heiltsuk man, granddaughter handcuffed outside Vancouver bank settle human rights case against police. Vancouver: CBC. Retrieved from https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/maxwell-johnson-granddaught… ..tom

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Authors listing in the document
by Tom Jones 16 Nov '23

16 Nov '23

I would like to assure that all participating authors are listed in the header. 1. If your name is included in the header and you want it removed or 2 if your name is excluded from the header and you would like it added Please send me a private email so that we do the right thing for everyone. thx ..Tom (mobile)

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Early notice: Next Tuesday, Nov 21 @ 1 PM we have a RIUP WG call
by jim kragh 15 Nov '23

15 Nov '23

*RIUP's 1st/3rd Tuesday Meeting Link:* https://us06web.zoom.us/j/87499194761?pwd=cmhDTHBXV2VTbFBMZzllMlZVbnFoZz09 Meeting ID: 874 9919 4761 Passcode: 837815 Dial by your location +1 346 248 7799 US (Houston)*RIUP's 1st/3rd Tuesday Meeting Link:* https://us06web.zoom.us/j/87499194761?pwd=cmhDTHBXV2VTbFBMZzllMlZVbnFoZz09 Meeting ID: 874 9919 4761 Passcode: 837815 Dial by your location +1 346 248 7799 US (Houston) +1 646 558 8656 US (New York) +1 669 900 9128 US (San Jose) +1 253 215 8782 US (Tacoma) +1 301 715 8592 US (Washington DC) +1 312 626 6799 US (Chicago) Meeting ID: 874 9919 4761 Passcode: 837815 +1 646 558 8656 US (New York) +1 669 900 9128 US (San Jose) +1 253 215 8782 US (Tacoma) +1 301 715 8592 US (Washington DC) +1 312 626 6799 US (Chicago) Meeting ID: 874 9919 4761 Passcode: 837815 Good evening everyone! I am sending this early notice out because I will be on the road for the next seven days and I will be joining remotely and Noreen will be in the driver's seat. A heads up notice on Thursday, December 5th, Kantara will host its annual member meeting, hosted online starting mid-morning, 10 or 10:30 AM; will confirm and share it with you along with a link to the session. Final election call for anyone wanting to set up as a candidate for a leadership position. Focus of the meeting today is to fine tune the document for a final approval to share it with the Leadership Council. Tom J will lead the review process and kudos to him for his leadership in pionering the development of this insightful document. Have a nice evening, Jim

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IEEE Presentation Today
by Salvatore D'Agostino 15 Nov '23

15 Nov '23

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It is Tuesday Nov 7: YES: RIUP meets today at 1 PM ET and who is on first? Boy, did I loose track of calendar days and times
by jim kragh 07 Nov '23

07 Nov '23

The Zoom information for 1st/3rd Tuesday RIUP meetings: *STARTS IN less 2 HOURS 5 minutes* Kantara Initiative is inviting you to a scheduled Zoom meeting. Join Zoom Meeting This is the recurring link for our RIUP meeting *https://us06web.zoom.us/j/87499194761?pwd=cmhDTHBXV2VTbFBMZzllMlZVbnFoZz09* <https://www.google.com/url?q=https://us06web.zoom.us/j/87499194761?pwd%3Dcm…> Meeting ID: 874 9919 4761 Passcode: 837815 Dial by your location +1 346 248 7799 US (Houston) +1 646 558 8656 US (New York) +1 669 900 9128 US (San Jose) +1 253 215 8782 US (Tacoma) +1 301 715 8592 US (Washington DC) +1 312 626 6799 US (Chicago) Meeting ID: 874 9919 4761 Passcode: 837815 Project theme: *An All Empowering dID Ecosystem; No One Left Behind * Tom Jones sent a revised document out last night, inviting comments ---- based on input today, I would like to take a first pass on an acceptance vote, which if approved can be shared as a working draft for the Leadership Counsel later this month for their comments and input. I am hopeful in our next meeting we will have a final acceptance vote. We still need to review RIUP Charter and and have elections of WG chairs so we can have a vote near term. Look forward to our call in 2 hours, Jim I

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Re: [EXTERNAL] RIUP, special out of cycle, WG meeting; Oct 31, 2023 1 PM; apologize for not sending an earlier notice; good intention but forgot!
by Tom (Thomas) Sullivan 07 Nov '23

07 Nov '23

Thanks Jim, Nice work and thank you Tom J. I attached 3 minor edits that are highlighted. I hope everyone can attend so we can get a consensus vote. Tom Thomas E Sullivan, MD Consultant [A close up of a logo Description automatically generated] DrFirst.com, Inc. (978) 729-5075 (M) tsullivan(a)drfirst.com<mailto:tsullivan@drfirst.com> ________________________________ From: kragh65(a)gmail.com <kragh65(a)gmail.com> Sent: Monday, October 30, 2023 3:24 PM To: ThomasClinganJones(a)gmail.com <ThomasClinganJones(a)gmail.com>; nwhysel(a)gmail.com <nwhysel(a)gmail.com>; 'Bev Corwin' <bevcorwin(a)gmail.com>; jeff_brennan(a)sbcglobal.net <jeff_brennan(a)sbcglobal.net>; 'Salvatore D'Agostino' <sal(a)idmachines.com>; 'Catherine Schulten' <catherineschulten(a)yahoo.com>; Tom (Thomas) Sullivan <tsullivan(a)drfirst.com>; michael.magrath(a)kuma.pro <michael.magrath(a)kuma.pro>; 'Simone Alcorn' <salcorn(a)easydynamics.com>; wg-riup(a)kantarainitiative.org <wg-riup(a)kantarainitiative.org> Cc: 'Kay Chopard Cohen' <kay(a)kantarainitiative.org>; 'Amanda Gay' <amanda(a)kantarainitiative.org>; kragh65(a)gmail.com <kragh65(a)gmail.com> Subject: [EXTERNAL] RIUP, special out of cycle, WG meeting; Oct 31, 2023 1 PM; apologize for not sending an earlier notice; good intention but forgot! During our last meeting (Oct 17) the WG agreed to a year end deadline for completing this document and agreed to having an out-of-cycle meeting on the 5th Tuesday of October (this not a trick but a polite request to join our RIUP Please review an updated version of the document and share your comments, questions and recommendations. RIUP's 1st/3rd and (out of cycle) 5th Tuesday Meeting Link: your valued input is important so we can finalize this document by year end. Please join the WG at: https://us06web.zoom.us/j/87499194761?pwd=cmhDTHBXV2VTbFBMZzllMlZVbnFoZz09<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://us06web.zoom.us/j/87499194761?pwd=cmhDT…> Meeting ID: 874 9919 4761 Passcode: 837815 Dial by your location +1 346 248 7799 US (Houston) +1 646 558 8656 US (New York) +1 669 900 9128 US (San Jose) +1 253 215 8782 US (Tacoma) +1 301 715 8592 US (Washington DC) +1 312 626 6799 US (Chicago) Meeting ID: 874 9919 4761 Passcode: 837815 Project theme: An All Empowering D-ID Ecosystem; No One Left Behind Attached is the updated document Tom sent out last week; please review and be prepared to contribute. Notice of Confidentiality: The information included and/or attached in this electronic mail transmission may contain confidential or privileged information and is intended for the addressee. Any unauthorized disclosure, reproduction, distribution or the taking of action in reliance on the contents of the information is prohibited. If you believe that you have received the message in error, please notify the sender by reply transmission and delete the message without copying or disclosing it.

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Document shared with you: "Digital Identifier Inclusion.docx"
by Tom Jones (via Google Docs) 06 Nov '23

06 Nov '23

I've shared an item with you: Digital Identifier Inclusion.docx https://docs.google.com/document/d/12Dwknikb3pk1QNYSXm9QbNkC8n6d4ZYM/edit?u… It's not an attachment -- it's stored online. To open this item, just click the link above. This is a combined contribution on Google docs so we don't have version conflicts - everyone should have access, let me know if that didn't work. ..tom

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