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Re: [DG-AM] LAST CALL for the Attribute Management Discussion Group report
by Heather Flanagan 23 Apr '12

23 Apr '12

thank you. Changes have been incorporated in wiki and work doc and uploaded. -Heather ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kenneth Dagg" <Kenneth.Dagg(a)tbs-sct.gc.ca> To: "Heather Flanagan" <hlflanagan(a)internet2.edu>, dg-am(a)kantarainitiative.org Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 6:01:03 AM Subject: RE: [DG-AM] LAST CALL for the Attribute Management Discussion Group report Heather, In giving the draft report a final read I have the following observations / suggestions. For the most part they are linkages between areas of the report and the addition of a couple more examples of efforts in this space. I used the line numbers from a printed copy of the Word document. Line91: change from, "... by the Discussion Group it identified areas that had no ..." to "... by the Discussion Group it identified areas that it believed had no ..." Line108-115: the term "individual" is used where as the definition uses the term "subject". I would suggest changing one or the other. Line155-156: please change the text to "Federating Identity Management in the Government of Canada: A Backgrounder> which is the title of the document the link points to. Before Line 201: the Government of New Zealand has an Evidence of Identity Standard which can be viewed at http://www.dia.govt.nz/diawebsite.nsf/wpg_URL/Resource-material-Evidence-of… . I would suggest it be added. Line 281: change "UX" to "user experience". Line 281: as this gap is related (closely I believe) to gap9 I would suggest a sentence be added to the end along the lines of "It is also important when examining the use of attributes." Line 283: I believe that Kantara Initiative P3WG work, specifically efforts around the Privacy Assessment Criteria, are related to this gap - http://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/p3wg/Home Line 292: Similar to line 281 I would suggest a sentence be added along the lines of "The definition of governance needs to identify the extent to which consent is required." Line 319: I believe recommendation 2 should also address gap #8 in order to ensure use of attributes is linked to consent to use. Line 374: I believe recommendation 6 should also address gap #8 in order to ensure governance of attribute use is linked to consent to use. Kenneth Dagg Senior Project Co-ordinator | Coordonnateur de projet supérieur Security and Identity Management | Sécurité et gestion des identités Chief Information Officer Branch | Direction du dirigeant principal de l'information Treasury Board of Canada Secretariat | Secrétariat du Conseil du Trésor du Canada Ottawa, Canada K1A 0R5 Kenneth.Dagg(a)tbs-sct.gc.ca Telephone | Téléphone 613-957-7041 / Facsimile | Télécopieur 613-954-6642 / Teletypewriter | Téléimprimeur 613-957-9090 Government of Canada | Gouvernement du Canada -----Original Message----- From: dg-am-bounces(a)kantarainitiative.org [ mailto:dg-am-bounces@kantarainitiative.org ] On Behalf Of Heather Flanagan Sent: April 17, 2012 2:27 PM To: dg-am(a)kantarainitiative.org Subject: [DG-AM] LAST CALL for the Attribute Management Discussion Group report Hi all - This week will be the time to make any final edits to our report before we turn it in to the Leadership Council. Please take a few moments to review the document as you are being listed as one of the contributors since you are on the roster. Last call is open until Sunday, April 22. Assuming no major changes, we will be submitting the word document to the LC on Monday, April 23. Wiki version: http://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/AMDG/Report+-+DRAFT Word Doc: http://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/download/attachments/58196114/AMDG-… Heather Flanagan, AMDG secretary _______________________________________________ DG-AM mailing list DG-AM(a)kantarainitiative.org http://kantarainitiative.org/mailman/listinfo/dg-am

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REMINDER and AGENDA, AMDG telcon 24-Apr-2012
by Heather Flanagan 22 Apr '12

22 Apr '12

Hi all - Just a reminder: we have our Attribute Management Discussion Group call this week. Agenda is online in detail, with summary below. http://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/x/dYl8Aw * *Date:* Tuesday, April 24, 2012 (?) * Time: 11h PT / 14h ET / 19h UTC * Dial in: * Skype: +99051000000481 * US Dial-In: +1-805-309-2350 | Room Code: 613-2898 AGENDA: 1. Administrative a. Roll Call b. New member introduction - no new members c. Agenda confirmation d. Action item review 2. Discussion a. Report Draft - final "send/don't send" to Kantara LC

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V Cards + (RE: DG-AM Digest, Vol 8, Issue 10)
by Colin Wallis 20 Apr '12

20 Apr '12

If John Bradley was looking in here, he would ask that we add Portable Contacts 1.0.This spec and schema is the baseline for V Card.Personally I'm not overjoyed by it because it appears to have been created by folk who seem to have very little understanding of contact attributes outside of western/anglo-saxon countries.That said, it is there, to to be used in SCIM apparently, and should be included along with other (albeit heavier) specs like OASIS CIQ v3.CheersColin> From: dg-am-request(a)kantarainitiative.org > Subject: DG-AM Digest, Vol 8, Issue 10 > To: dg-am(a)kantarainitiative.org > Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2012 12:00:04 -0400 > > Send DG-AM mailing list submissions to > dg-am(a)kantarainitiative.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://kantarainitiative.org/mailman/listinfo/dg-am > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > dg-am-request(a)kantarainitiative.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > dg-am-owner(a)kantarainitiative.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of DG-AM digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. other industry efforts (Salvatore D'Agostino) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2012 11:17:42 -0400 > From: "Salvatore D'Agostino" <sal(a)idmachines.com> > Subject: [DG-AM] other industry efforts > To: <dg-am(a)kantarainitiative.org> > Message-ID: <00d701cd1e3f$90dd5650$b29802f0$@com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > In trying to cast a wide net, I wonder if we should include references to > vcard or hcard (microformat http://microformats.org/wiki/hcard ) as other > examples of person attribute lists perhaps the vcard (2426) as a standard > and hcard as derivative? > > > > Salvatore D'Agostino, CSCIP > > IDmachines LLC |1264 Beacon Street, #5 | Brookline, MA 02446 | USA > > http:\\www.idmachines.com <http://www.idmachines.com/> | > http:\\idmachines.blogspot.com <http://idmachines.blogspot.com/> | > @idmachines > > +1 617.201.4809 ph | +1 617.812.6495 fax > > > >

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other industry efforts
by Salvatore D'Agostino 19 Apr '12

19 Apr '12

In trying to cast a wide net, I wonder if we should include references to vcard or hcard (microformat http://microformats.org/wiki/hcard ) as other examples of person attribute lists perhaps the vcard (2426) as a standard and hcard as derivative? Salvatore D'Agostino, CSCIP IDmachines LLC |1264 Beacon Street, #5 | Brookline, MA 02446 | USA http:\\www.idmachines.com <http://www.idmachines.com/> | http:\\idmachines.blogspot.com <http://idmachines.blogspot.com/> | @idmachines +1 617.201.4809 ph | +1 617.812.6495 fax

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Gap/Recommendation #3 and #5 re Schema and Metadata
by Rainer Hoerbe 18 Apr '12

18 Apr '12

A bit late in the discussion I realized that there is a potentially significant interface to initiatives in the area of semantic interoperability. a) The schemas mentioned here are derived from X.500/LDAP's object classes like InetOrgPerson. These schemas really suck when viewed from a modern data modeling perspective, because they fail to express more complex scenarios that anticipated in the standard. I propose to list a more modern schema like the Core Person Vocabulary as well. I remember that there was also an OASIS XML schema for Person and Organization with a solid model, but I cannot remember its name. b) Re Gap 5#: There are generic standards about how to manage metadata. One is the IOS/IEC 11179 (Part 3: Meta Data Registries can still be downloaded in the FDC version from the web for free: Google for (32N1983Ta-Text-for-ballot-FCD_11179-3.pdf"), another is the EU's Asset Description Metadata Schema. These models are pretty heavy, but they consider stuff that might be found out after some iterations of learning anyway, like multi-language support, geographical coverage, interoperability levels, metadata authority and change management. I suggest to name them at least as a background to check the scope and functionality of a new standards that is limited to identity attributes. I propose to add a sentence that references these to schemas as benchmark for a metadata registry for identity attributes. - Rainer

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LAST CALL for the Attribute Management Discussion Group report
by Heather Flanagan 18 Apr '12

18 Apr '12

Hi all - This week will be the time to make any final edits to our report before we turn it in to the Leadership Council. Please take a few moments to review the document as you are being listed as one of the contributors since you are on the roster. Last call is open until Sunday, April 22. Assuming no major changes, we will be submitting the word document to the LC on Monday, April 23. Wiki version: http://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/AMDG/Report+-+DRAFT Word Doc: http://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/download/attachments/58196114/AMDG-… Heather Flanagan, AMDG secretary

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added schema.org to definitions
by Salvatore D'Agostino 13 Apr '12

13 Apr '12

http://schema.org/docs/full.html Put it here http://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/AMDG/Attribute+Definitions Salvatore D'Agostino, CSCIP IDmachines LLC |1264 Beacon Street, #5 | Brookline, MA 02446 | USA http:\\www.idmachines.com <http://www.idmachines.com/> | http:\\idmachines.blogspot.com <http://idmachines.blogspot.com/> | @idmachines +1 617.201.4809 ph | +1 617.812.6495 fax

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Added rNews to industry efforts
by Salvatore D'Agostino 13 Apr '12

13 Apr '12

Updated wiki repository http://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/AMDG/Current+Industry+Effort s to include media schema some of the details here. http://dev.iptc.org/rNews (also link on wiki) Salvatore D'Agostino, CSCIP IDmachines LLC |1264 Beacon Street, #5 | Brookline, MA 02446 | USA http:\\www.idmachines.com <http://www.idmachines.com/> | http:\\idmachines.blogspot.com <http://idmachines.blogspot.com/> | @idmachines +1 617.201.4809 ph | +1 617.812.6495 fax

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Virtual Identity Authority File
by Salvatore D'Agostino 13 Apr '12

13 Apr '12

Hope all is well in Munich, So some of the semantic web activity has gone into service. http://www.oclc.org/viaf/default.htm As many of you probably know this is a service that becomes an authority for an identity attribute of interest for us, namely names, perhaps not exactly DN, OU, etc. but names none the less and in this case with "sub-attribute" "author". I will post to repository. Also a reminder to please review the DRAFT <http://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/AMDG/Report+-+DRAFT> and comment. Prost! Sal Salvatore D'Agostino, CSCIP IDmachines LLC |1264 Beacon Street, #5 | Brookline, MA 02446 | USA http:\\www.idmachines.com <http://www.idmachines.com/> | http:\\idmachines.blogspot.com <http://idmachines.blogspot.com/> | @idmachines +1 617.201.4809 ph | +1 617.812.6495 fax

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REMINDER & AGENDA: DG-AM call, 2012-04-10
by Heather Flanagan 10 Apr '12

10 Apr '12

Hi all - Just a reminder: we have our Attribute Management Discussion Group call this week. Agenda is online in detail, with summary below. http://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/AMDG/AMDG+Meeting+Agenda+20… * *Date:* Tuesday, April 10, 2012 (?) * Time: 11h PT / 14h ET / 19h UTC * Dial in: * Skype: +99051000000481 * US Dial-In: +1-805-309-2350 | Room Code: 613-2898 AGENDA: 1. Administrative a. Roll Call b. New member introduction - no new members c. Agenda confirmation d. Action item review 2. Discussion a. Report Draft b. eduPerson last call

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